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    1. Re: [SCOT-DNA] Coldstream Guards
    2. Thanks Kenneth :-) -- Clarkson Family -------------- Original message -------------- From: Kenneth Scott <kingsmntscotts@yahoo.com> > Rich, > > The Coldstream Guards is not thought of as a Scottish unit. It is more > English. > > You might want to think of the Coldstream Guards in comparison to the Black > Watch, made up of Scots. The Coldstream Guards were the elite of the English > regiments. The Coldstream Guards were organized by Cromwell, in opposition to > the Royalist/Jacobite uprisings. A simplification might be to say, if your > subject were a Scot, he would have joined the Black Watch, if he were English, > he would join the Coldstream Guards. I will note that the Black Watch is more > of a Highland regiment than a Borderers regiment. Coldstream is much closer to > the Border, but definately on the English side. > > Here is the official site for the Coldstream Guards: > http://www.army.mod.uk/coldstreamguards/history.htm > For reference, here's the official site for the Black Watch: > http://www.army.mod.uk/blackwatch/history/raising_of_regiment.htm > > > The Coldstream Guards were a highly professional and disciplined unit in the > British Army during the Napoleonic Wars & the American Revolution. The Guards > saw action at Brandywine, Valley Forge, Germantown, and White Marsh before going > to winter quarters in Philadelphia in 1777/1778. The Guards were the Infantry > of General Lord Cornwallis' Southern Army in his march from Charleston, SC to > The Battle of Guilford Courthouse, NC in 1781, and then retreat & surrender at > Yorktown later that year. > > You might want to read here these: > http://footguards.tripod.com/08HISTORY/08_regt_hist.htm > http://patriotresource.com/battles/guilford.html > and see a map here: > http://www.britishbattles.com/battle-guilford.htm > > I use the Battle of Guilford Courthouse as the example, because most of the > American forces at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, especially the militia, > were Scots-Irish decedents of the Jacobite sympathizers, whom the Coldstream > Guards had been initially raised to put down. > > This is probably more than you wanted to know, but I just thought I'd share > some insights. > > -- > Kenneth > > > r_clarkson@comcast.net wrote: > I am at a "dead" end in Chelmsford in about 1740. This ancestral couple came > from an unknown area... and their son joined the Coldstream Guards. Being that > Coldstream is in the north, would it have been a custom of families to join > military units from a traditional birthplace? Would it have been seen as a > Scottish unit then ? > Thanks > Rich > > -- > Clarkson Family > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "John A Hansen" > > > > > > > Dear Bill: > > > > I'm not sure how you are counting "matches". > > > > I just looked at our rate on the Scottish Clans Project. > > We basically accept anyone that claims to have a > > Scottish Heritage. Althouth this may narrow the > > randomness a bit ... but not much > > > > We have received 395 members as of tonight ( Sept 4 2006). > > There are 405 notices of matches from Family Tree. Obviously > > there were a number of families and Clan members that > > joined together and had their DNA tested here. > > > > I was somewhat surprised by the number > > of "close matches"..... even on 37 markers. Most were > > of the 33,34,35,36,37 .. therefore a 99.% probability > > > > Best Regards > > John A Hansen > > Scottish Clans admin > > www.beintouch.com > > www.brigadoon.net > > > > > > > > > > From: "Lowe DNA" < bbailey.lowedna@baileyconnection.com> > > Subject: [DNA] PERCENTAGE MATCH SUCCESS RATES FOR SURNAME PROJECTS ? > > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:40:33 -0500 > > List... > > > > I am interested in the match success rate of > > SURNAME PROJECTS that have close matches at > > 23 or more markers on 25; or, 33 or more > > markers on 37. > > > > We coordinate three projects and these are our > > matches rates as of today.. > > > > Lowe (we require 25 markers to enroll) > > ....25 matches out of 53 men which is a > > ....42% match rate. > > > > Stephens-Stevens (we require 25 markers to enroll) > > ....27 matches out of 57 men which is a > > ....47.4% match rate. > > > > Bailey > > ...24 matches out of 49 men which is a > > ...49% match rate. > > > > I would like to hear from other list members who > > are project coordinators to find out if the 42-50% > > match rate is standard at 25 and 37 markers > > with FTDNA, and other, testing companies. > > > > As always, thanks > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! 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