I am at a "dead" end in Chelmsford in about 1740. This ancestral couple came from an unknown area... and their son joined the Coldstream Guards. Being that Coldstream is in the north, would it have been a custom of families to join military units from a traditional birthplace? Would it have been seen as a Scottish unit then ? Thanks Rich -- Clarkson Family -------------- Original message -------------- From: "John A Hansen" <jahansen@brigadoon.net> > > > Dear Bill: > > I'm not sure how you are counting "matches". > > I just looked at our rate on the Scottish Clans Project. > We basically accept anyone that claims to have a > Scottish Heritage. Althouth this may narrow the > randomness a bit ... but not much > > We have received 395 members as of tonight ( Sept 4 2006). > There are 405 notices of matches from Family Tree. Obviously > there were a number of families and Clan members that > joined together and had their DNA tested here. > > I was somewhat surprised by the number > of "close matches"..... even on 37 markers. Most were > of the 33,34,35,36,37 .. therefore a 99.% probability > > Best Regards > John A Hansen > Scottish Clans admin > www.beintouch.com > www.brigadoon.net > > > > > From: "Lowe DNA" < bbailey.lowedna@baileyconnection.com> > Subject: [DNA] PERCENTAGE MATCH SUCCESS RATES FOR SURNAME PROJECTS ? > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:40:33 -0500 > List... > > I am interested in the match success rate of > SURNAME PROJECTS that have close matches at > 23 or more markers on 25; or, 33 or more > markers on 37. > > We coordinate three projects and these are our > matches rates as of today.. > > Lowe (we require 25 markers to enroll) > ....25 matches out of 53 men which is a > ....42% match rate. > > Stephens-Stevens (we require 25 markers to enroll) > ....27 matches out of 57 men which is a > ....47.4% match rate. > > Bailey > ...24 matches out of 49 men which is a > ...49% match rate. > > I would like to hear from other list members who > are project coordinators to find out if the 42-50% > match rate is standard at 25 and 37 markers > with FTDNA, and other, testing companies. > > As always, thanks > > Bill > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project Manager, > John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net and he will > provide a private answer. > Want to join the Project? Visit: > http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Rich, The Coldstream Guards is not thought of as a Scottish unit. It is more English. You might want to think of the Coldstream Guards in comparison to the Black Watch, made up of Scots. The Coldstream Guards were the elite of the English regiments. The Coldstream Guards were organized by Cromwell, in opposition to the Royalist/Jacobite uprisings. A simplification might be to say, if your subject were a Scot, he would have joined the Black Watch, if he were English, he would join the Coldstream Guards. I will note that the Black Watch is more of a Highland regiment than a Borderers regiment. Coldstream is much closer to the Border, but definately on the English side. Here is the official site for the Coldstream Guards: http://www.army.mod.uk/coldstreamguards/history.htm For reference, here's the official site for the Black Watch: http://www.army.mod.uk/blackwatch/history/raising_of_regiment.htm The Coldstream Guards were a highly professional and disciplined unit in the British Army during the Napoleonic Wars & the American Revolution. The Guards saw action at Brandywine, Valley Forge, Germantown, and White Marsh before going to winter quarters in Philadelphia in 1777/1778. The Guards were the Infantry of General Lord Cornwallis' Southern Army in his march from Charleston, SC to The Battle of Guilford Courthouse, NC in 1781, and then retreat & surrender at Yorktown later that year. You might want to read here these: http://footguards.tripod.com/08HISTORY/08_regt_hist.htm http://patriotresource.com/battles/guilford.html and see a map here: http://www.britishbattles.com/battle-guilford.htm I use the Battle of Guilford Courthouse as the example, because most of the American forces at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, especially the militia, were Scots-Irish decedents of the Jacobite sympathizers, whom the Coldstream Guards had been initially raised to put down. This is probably more than you wanted to know, but I just thought I'd share some insights. -- Kenneth r_clarkson@comcast.net wrote: I am at a "dead" end in Chelmsford in about 1740. This ancestral couple came from an unknown area... and their son joined the Coldstream Guards. Being that Coldstream is in the north, would it have been a custom of families to join military units from a traditional birthplace? Would it have been seen as a Scottish unit then ? Thanks Rich -- Clarkson Family -------------- Original message -------------- From: "John A Hansen" > > > Dear Bill: > > I'm not sure how you are counting "matches". > > I just looked at our rate on the Scottish Clans Project. > We basically accept anyone that claims to have a > Scottish Heritage. Althouth this may narrow the > randomness a bit ... but not much > > We have received 395 members as of tonight ( Sept 4 2006). > There are 405 notices of matches from Family Tree. Obviously > there were a number of families and Clan members that > joined together and had their DNA tested here. > > I was somewhat surprised by the number > of "close matches"..... even on 37 markers. Most were > of the 33,34,35,36,37 .. therefore a 99.% probability > > Best Regards > John A Hansen > Scottish Clans admin > www.beintouch.com > www.brigadoon.net > > > > > From: "Lowe DNA" < bbailey.lowedna@baileyconnection.com> > Subject: [DNA] PERCENTAGE MATCH SUCCESS RATES FOR SURNAME PROJECTS ? > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:40:33 -0500 > List... > > I am interested in the match success rate of > SURNAME PROJECTS that have close matches at > 23 or more markers on 25; or, 33 or more > markers on 37. > > We coordinate three projects and these are our > matches rates as of today.. > > Lowe (we require 25 markers to enroll) > ....25 matches out of 53 men which is a > ....42% match rate. > > Stephens-Stevens (we require 25 markers to enroll) > ....27 matches out of 57 men which is a > ....47.4% match rate. > > Bailey > ...24 matches out of 49 men which is a > ...49% match rate. > > I would like to hear from other list members who > are project coordinators to find out if the 42-50% > match rate is standard at 25 and 37 markers > with FTDNA, and other, testing companies. > > As always, thanks > > Bill > > --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com