Another Offer for those wanting to learn more about ancestral relationships: Contact David for details Ethnoancestry is prepared to drop the bottom out of things and spill a bit of red ink if necessary (my accountant is going to tear his hair out) if you can promise us 10, yes just 10 (ok, almost 10 will do), particpants willing to take the R1b FT Upgrade Test which involves S21, S26, S29 and S28 (R1b1c9 through 10). We hope to tease a few pockets of each from locations in contries such as Spain where they "seem few and far between" (perhaps their are regions where one or more will predominate but no one has explored this in any depth at all) so we can get an idea whether the apparent dividing lines between these downstream subgroups are as stable as they appear to be. One would think that with markers of an apparent age very close to Daddy M269, S21 and S28 would be plastered all over Western Europe but this is not the case. We would also like to know if S28 is more common than R1b1c* as one moves further and further east. Would the Administrators please contact me if they wish to avail themselves of this offer. Those interested in a deal on all 5 I1a SNPs, please contact me and we will talk turkey. These offers will be good until 23 December so get em while they are hot. Hopefully other companies will have similar announcements. Thank you, David. Dr. David K.W. Faux President Ethnoancestry USA, Inc. www.ethnodna.com