Aha... whenever I look down that DNA tunnel and see a light, it IS a freight train coming. :-) Perhaps ethno ancestry report will say something like... Descent is from a Nubian in service of the Roman Legions, with possible relations to the Han Chinese. We find the allelle frquency at 389 1 and 2 resembles that of a Haggis, and there may be just cause to claim Scottish descent ". Anyway, thanks for being there Ken Rich -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > John, I took a first look at the Clarkson haplotype, and it looked like a > freight train rolled over the repeats. Quite unique and unusual. I can see > why he is not finding close matches. > > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Carr" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? > > > > Now that Ken is on this list, he is one of the leading analysts of our > > DNA data trying to discern it's secrets, so he is a very good person to > > ask what your results mean. > > > > John Carr > > > > On Dec 11, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote: > > > >> We are just dying to know what Ethnoancestry said about whether you > >> were > >> Pictish or not, and which of your STR markers indicated you were or > >> were > >> not? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:29 PM > >> Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? > >> > >> > >>> I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to > >>> find out > >>> if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found > >>> that > >>> we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, > >>> Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not > >>> all > >>> that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the > >>> best > >>> chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be > >>> just > >>> about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to > >>> about > >>> 1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am > >>> Sudanese! > >>> Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer > >>> beware. > >>> Richard Clarkson > >>> 4jdg5 > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Ah,,, the famous Ken Nordvedt ? I am honoured sir. :-) We meet again. I should have explained myself better. My first line was ."I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to find out.. " Anyway, I am not so sure Ethnoancestry has the markers for Pictish DNA, which they appear to claim.... I have spoken to Dr Faux before in e mail, and I gather from his selected occupants of certain Scottish Isles on his web site that I am NOT in the running for this esteemed position. ( assuming that my detective work is correct). At any rate, sorry for my confusing post, it could have been worded better. The other side of the coin here is that even though my DNA APPEARS to be Celtic.... I understand that there is really no such thing as "Celtic" dna... just that there are certain allelles that show up in higher frequencies in known Celtic populations. Anyway Ken, still searching for my origins... favorite DNA quote... " We are always who we are, we are just not always who we THINK we are.." Rich -- Clarkson Family -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > We are just dying to know what Ethnoancestry said about whether you were > Pictish or not, and which of your STR markers indicated you were or were > not? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:29 PM > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? > > > >I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to find out > >if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found that > >we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, > >Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not all > >that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the best > >chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be just > >about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to about > >1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am Sudanese! > >Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer beware. > > Richard Clarkson > > 4jdg5 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to find out if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found that we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not all that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the best chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be just about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to about 1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am Sudanese! Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer beware. Richard Clarkson 4jdg5 -- Clarkson Family -------------- Original message -------------- From: John Carr <jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net> > I have no connection with Ethnoancestry. My e-mail was intended to > inform the Carr DNA participants of these offers from Ethnoancestry, > but I accidently clicked send rather than highlighting the Scott-DNA > e-mail address, so it went to this list instead. You should direct > your question to Ethnoancestry via their website or to the > Genealogy-DNA Rootsweb mail list. > > Members of this list who do not monitor the Genealogy-DNA list may > benefit from a discussion about this, but the number of 'experts' is > probably higher on the Genealogy-DNA list. We genealogy DNA > enthusiasts need many more people willing to take these tests before we > will have better answers about what they mean. This is leading edge > stuff. No DNA database for genealogy or anthropology is larger than > the one composed of us volunteer testers. No research agency has the > buying power we do collectively, so no one else can do what we can, in > terms of developing a large database. However the number of people who > have expanded their results to 37 or 67 or more markers plus have SNP > tests is still relatively small considering the diversity of the > database. This to me is the fun part, where you venture and see what > you will get. More people are expending their tests results all the > time. The DNA companies are stretched to keep up with the demand. > Ethnoancestry was deluged after David Faux posted his offer on the > Genealogy-DNA list. So, we should have some real smarts on this in a > few more years. > > John Carr > > On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:13 AM, DEREK HAM wrote: > > > Hi John > > In early December I became interested in your S-series test, so have > > purchased it and am awaiting the kit to send of the sample to London. > > My interest stems fro the fact that my SNP(R1b1c*)/STR/surname > > studies/paternal genealogy suggest my origins are in the Borders > > region. My predictions have been that the deep ancestral roots come > > from either - > > (a) The Dalriadan Scotti in their incursion as the Romans left > > Britain > > or > > (b) The Celtic Rhineland; descendents of a Roman auxiliary soldier > > posted to Hadrians Wall/Velantia Province - this family stayed behind > > in the Borders area when Roman colleagues abandoned Britain to return > > to their Italian homeland. > > > > The odds (60:40) are in favour of Rhineland origins, and your > > S-series test might settle the issue either way; I anticipate a > > positive result in February as it looks likely these markers focus > > more towards eastern Europe sub-groups. > > Can you give me some idea of the time window these SNPs signify? are > > they of the order 3000 or 10000 yrs ago? > > > > Regards > > Derek Ham > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

John, I took a first look at the Clarkson haplotype, and it looked like a freight train rolled over the repeats. Quite unique and unusual. I can see why he is not finding close matches. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carr" <jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net> To: <scot-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? > Now that Ken is on this list, he is one of the leading analysts of our > DNA data trying to discern it's secrets, so he is a very good person to > ask what your results mean. > > John Carr > > On Dec 11, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote: > >> We are just dying to know what Ethnoancestry said about whether you >> were >> Pictish or not, and which of your STR markers indicated you were or >> were >> not? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <r_clarkson@comcast.net> >> To: <scot-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:29 PM >> Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? >> >> >>> I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to >>> find out >>> if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found >>> that >>> we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, >>> Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not >>> all >>> that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the >>> best >>> chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be >>> just >>> about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to >>> about >>> 1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am >>> Sudanese! >>> Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer >>> beware. >>> Richard Clarkson >>> 4jdg5 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We are just dying to know what Ethnoancestry said about whether you were Pictish or not, and which of your STR markers indicated you were or were not? ----- Original Message ----- From: <r_clarkson@comcast.net> To: <scot-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? >I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to find out >if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found that >we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, >Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not all >that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the best >chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be just >about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to about >1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am Sudanese! >Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer beware. > Richard Clarkson > 4jdg5

Now that Ken is on this list, he is one of the leading analysts of our DNA data trying to discern it's secrets, so he is a very good person to ask what your results mean. John Carr On Dec 11, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Ken Nordtvedt wrote: > We are just dying to know what Ethnoancestry said about whether you > were > Pictish or not, and which of your STR markers indicated you were or > were > not? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <r_clarkson@comcast.net> > To: <scot-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:29 PM > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scot ? > > >> I have just sent in my alleles I previously received from FtDNA to >> find out >> if I am a Scot. The name CLARKSON should say it all, but I have found >> that >> we tend to change the surname with just about each generation. Claxon, >> Clason, Claxton, Claxson and Clarkson since about 1850, which was not >> all >> that long ago in surname terms. I thought Ethno Ancestry may give the >> best >> chance of accuracy... perhaps I am Pictish? At this point, I could be >> just >> about anything that one may find in Britain, who can trace back to >> about >> 1700. I have sent in to DNA Tribes, but they seem to think I am >> Sudanese! >> Really. No links to Britain or Scotland after 400 years ? Buyer >> beware. >> Richard Clarkson >> 4jdg5 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have no connection with Ethnoancestry. My e-mail was intended to inform the Carr DNA participants of these offers from Ethnoancestry, but I accidently clicked send rather than highlighting the Scott-DNA e-mail address, so it went to this list instead. You should direct your question to Ethnoancestry via their website or to the Genealogy-DNA Rootsweb mail list. Members of this list who do not monitor the Genealogy-DNA list may benefit from a discussion about this, but the number of 'experts' is probably higher on the Genealogy-DNA list. We genealogy DNA enthusiasts need many more people willing to take these tests before we will have better answers about what they mean. This is leading edge stuff. No DNA database for genealogy or anthropology is larger than the one composed of us volunteer testers. No research agency has the buying power we do collectively, so no one else can do what we can, in terms of developing a large database. However the number of people who have expanded their results to 37 or 67 or more markers plus have SNP tests is still relatively small considering the diversity of the database. This to me is the fun part, where you venture and see what you will get. More people are expending their tests results all the time. The DNA companies are stretched to keep up with the demand. Ethnoancestry was deluged after David Faux posted his offer on the Genealogy-DNA list. So, we should have some real smarts on this in a few more years. John Carr On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:13 AM, DEREK HAM wrote: > Hi John > In early December I became interested in your S-series test, so have > purchased it and am awaiting the kit to send of the sample to London. > My interest stems fro the fact that my SNP(R1b1c*)/STR/surname > studies/paternal genealogy suggest my origins are in the Borders > region. My predictions have been that the deep ancestral roots come > from either - > (a) The Dalriadan Scotti in their incursion as the Romans left > Britain > or > (b) The Celtic Rhineland; descendents of a Roman auxiliary soldier > posted to Hadrians Wall/Velantia Province - this family stayed behind > in the Borders area when Roman colleagues abandoned Britain to return > to their Italian homeland. > > The odds (60:40) are in favour of Rhineland origins, and your > S-series test might settle the issue either way; I anticipate a > positive result in February as it looks likely these markers focus > more towards eastern Europe sub-groups. > Can you give me some idea of the time window these SNPs signify? are > they of the order 3000 or 10000 yrs ago? > > Regards > Derek Ham

Hi John In early December I became interested in your S-series test, so have purchased it and am awaiting the kit to send of the sample to London. My interest stems fro the fact that my SNP(R1b1c*)/STR/surname studies/paternal genealogy suggest my origins are in the Borders region. My predictions have been that the deep ancestral roots come from either - (a) The Dalriadan Scotti in their incursion as the Romans left Britain or (b) The Celtic Rhineland; descendents of a Roman auxiliary soldier posted to Hadrians Wall/Velantia Province - this family stayed behind in the Borders area when Roman colleagues abandoned Britain to return to their Italian homeland. The odds (60:40) are in favour of Rhineland origins, and your S-series test might settle the issue either way; I anticipate a positive result in February as it looks likely these markers focus more towards eastern Europe sub-groups. Can you give me some idea of the time window these SNPs signify? are they of the order 3000 or 10000 yrs ago? Regards Derek Ham John Carr <jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net> wrote: Another offer for those wanting to learn more about ancestral relationships: Contact me if you are interested and we'll see how many people we can group together. 'Ethnoancestry is prepared to drop the bottom out of things and spill a bit of red ink if necessary (my accountant is going to tear his hair out) if you can promise us 10, yes just 10 (ok, almost 10 will do), particpants willing to take the R1b FT Upgrade Test which involves S21, S26, S29 and S28 (R1b1c9 through 10). We hope to tease a few pockets of each from locations in contries such as Spain where they "seem few and far between" (perhaps their are regions where one or more will predominate but no one has explored this in any depth at all) so we can get an idea whether the apparent dividing lines between these downstream subgroups are as stable as they appear to be. One would think that with markers of an apparent age very close to Daddy M269, S21 and S28 would be plastered all over Western Europe but this is not the case. We would also like to know if S28 is more common than R1b1c* as one moves further and further east. Would the Administrators please contact me if they wish to avail themselves of this offer.' These is also a deal on 5 new I1a SNPs for haplogroup identification, this is for those who want the excitement of being on the leading edge of DNA genetics research. This testing will determine what can be learned from these SNP's in terms identifying ancestral origins. EA also has some other offers, check out their website for details. www.ethnodna.com Some of these offers are time limited, so get em while they are hot. Hopefully other companies will have similar announcements. I will let you know if I see any. You can let us know if you see anything advertised. Thank you, John Carr jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just launched an e-mail to this site by mistake. My apologies. John Carr

Another offer for those wanting to learn more about ancestral relationships: Contact me if you are interested and we'll see how many people we can group together. 'Ethnoancestry is prepared to drop the bottom out of things and spill a bit of red ink if necessary (my accountant is going to tear his hair out) if you can promise us 10, yes just 10 (ok, almost 10 will do), particpants willing to take the R1b FT Upgrade Test which involves S21, S26, S29 and S28 (R1b1c9 through 10). We hope to tease a few pockets of each from locations in contries such as Spain where they "seem few and far between" (perhaps their are regions where one or more will predominate but no one has explored this in any depth at all) so we can get an idea whether the apparent dividing lines between these downstream subgroups are as stable as they appear to be. One would think that with markers of an apparent age very close to Daddy M269, S21 and S28 would be plastered all over Western Europe but this is not the case. We would also like to know if S28 is more common than R1b1c* as one moves further and further east. Would the Administrators please contact me if they wish to avail themselves of this offer.' These is also a deal on 5 new I1a SNPs for haplogroup identification, this is for those who want the excitement of being on the leading edge of DNA genetics research. This testing will determine what can be learned from these SNP's in terms identifying ancestral origins. EA also has some other offers, check out their website for details. www.ethnodna.com Some of these offers are time limited, so get em while they are hot. Hopefully other companies will have similar announcements. I will let you know if I see any. You can let us know if you see anything advertised. Thank you, John Carr jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net

Dear All: This is a revision of the early post. I added some acknowledgements that were missed and corrected some typos. ( too much of a hurry on this Sat AM :-) Best Regards John Dear All: The Scottish Clans DNA Project was established in Oct 2001 and published its first Report on March 1 2002. That report was published in a mailing list ( Scot-DNA@rootsweb.com) created at www.rootsweb.com......( interesting to read from the standpoint of looking back on history). The Scottish Clan project was started to look at the potential interrelationships of the Scottish Clans. However, it is also obvious that these same results will show relationships with any other family or group that could have a common connection by migration due to wars, economic movements, etc The current project goals have broadened a bit to include anyone that has some indication of a Scottish, Irish, British and even Scandinavians background. The current study that I'm completing that has looked at other nationalities is very interesting. The sample base is still small ( 2200 results).. .. but is on cusp of being statistically significant. The Scot-DNA List at Rootsweb.com is the original list that supports the Scottish Clans (Scot DNA) Project and all those project managers and participants and interested parties that want to contribute and receive information regarding the Original project for all Scottish peoples. Additionally, there are 7 websites either connected directly or indirectly with this project: A: www.myfamily.com requires a login ... information is not generally public for protection against spiders etc-- free ... contains recent news from members, posting, family trees, and a downloadable copy of the full database. That database includes FTDNA results, other DNA projects that we co-operate with in exchanging results and people that have been tested at other projects but still want their results compared to the FTDNA results ( currently 525 results). B: www.brigadoon.net/scottishdna.htm -- no login....information is public, scope of project and updates. C: http://www.scottishdna.net/index.htm --no login... information is public, DNA status and tools I also add references here to other general information on other projects', DNA analysis tools, and other web sites that provide some really good background on DNA testing etc. D: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna/index.aspx .. no login. This contains public information on results of DNA tests This web site publishes all DNA test results where the person has been tested at FamilyTree DNA and authorized the public display of those records in our Scottish Clans DNA project. BTW: The Scottish Clans project at Family Tree is now in the top ten of all the Family Tree projects !!! E: The Scottish DNA project status reports are also posted at: http://www.electricscotland.com/ webclans/dna_project_march2006.htm ( note the 2 underscores _ in the URL) Be sure to combine the full URL :-) F: http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/index.htm Nice list of the status of the Scottish Clans G: http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/clanmenu.htm Detailed information on each of the Clans that do publish information and usually their current web site. There also needs to be a special recognition for the Project Volunteers that have started with us and stayed with the project for 4 long years. Lauren Boyd = Administrator of the Scot-DNA@rootsweb.com mailing list Charlotte Broun = responsible for the administration of the myfamily web site Marsha Smith = inputs the constant flow, updates, and changes of the database I have deeply appreciated the efforts and hours of work that these ladies have contributed to the success of the project. Warmest Regards John A Hansen jahansen@brigadoon.net www.brigadoon.net

Dear All: The Scottish Clans DNA Project was established in Oct 2001 and published its first Report on March 1 2002. That report was published in a mailing list ( Scot-DNA@rootsweb.com) created at www.rootsweb.com...... ( interesting to read from the standpoint of looking back on history). The Scottish Clan project was started to look at the potential interrelationships of the Scottish Clans. However, it is also obvious that these same results will show relationships with any other family or group that could have a common connection by migration due to wars, economic movements, etc The current project goals have broadened a bit to include anyone that has some indication of a Scottish, Irish, British and even Scandinavians background. The current study that I'm completing that has looked at other nationalities is very interesting. The sample base is still small ( 2200 results).... but is on cusp of being statistically significant. The Scot-DNA List at Rootsweb.com is the original list that supports the Scottish Clans (Scot DNA) Project and all those project managers and participants and interested parties that want to contribute and receive information regarding the Original project for all Scottish peoples. Additionally, there are 7 websites either connected directly or indirectly with this project: <http://www.myfamily.com> A: www.myfamily.com requires a login ... information is not generally public for protection against spiders etc-- free ... contains recent news from members, posting, family trees, and a downloadable copy of the full database. That database includes FTDNA results, other DNA projects that we co-operate with in exchanging results and people that have been tested at other projects but still want their results compared to the FTDNA results ( currently 525 results). BTW: The Scottish Clans project at Family Tree is now in the top ten of all the Family Tree projects !!! B: <http://www.brigadoon.net/scottishdna.htm> www.brigadoon.net/scottishdna.htm -- no login....information is public, scope of project and updates. <http://www.scottishdna.net/index.htm> C: http://www.scottishdna.net/index.htm --no login... information is public, DNA status and tools I also add references here to other general information on other projects', DNA analysis tools, and other web sites that provide some really good background on DNA testing etc. D: <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna/index.aspx> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna/index.aspx .. no login. This contains public information on results of DNA tests This web site publishes all DNA test results where the person has been tested at FamilyTree DNA and authorized the public display of those records in our Scottish Clans DNA project. BTW: The Scottish Clans project at Family Tree is now in the top ten of all the Family Tree projects !!! E: The Scottish DNA project status reports are also posted at <http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dna_project_march2006.htm> http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dna_project_march2006.htm ( note the 2 underscores _ in the URL) F: http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/index.htm Nice list of the status of the Scottish Clans G: <http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/clanmenu.htm> http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/clanmenu.htm Detailed information on each of the Clans that do publish information and usually their current web site. Warmest Regards John A Hansen jahansen@brigadoon.net www.brigadoon.net

Dear Listers: Apparently, I need to make myself more clear. Admin Notes are administrative in nature. They are not to be replied to. Should you have comments -- send them privately to Scot-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com Should you want to begin a new discussion/thread -- open a new message window, choose an appropriate subject line and send the message to the list address scot-dna@rootsweb.com This list is on moderate until all seem to have caught up with the mail. All appropriate messages will be released to the list. Yours Aye, Lauren Scot DNA List Admin >-----Original Message----- >From: scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >confido@ix.netcom.com >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:17 PM >To: scot-dna@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCOT-DNA] ADMIN NOTE -->Re: No news is bad news: THREAD CLOSED > >Dear Listers: > >This thread is hereby closed. The list is sometimes quiet. If you want >to wake it up, post something of Scot DNA relevance. To those of you >that wonder why someone is contacting you, consider that you have >requested to receive mail from those interested and involved with the >Scottish Clans DNA Project and have subscribed to the Scot DNA list >which supports the project and facilitates the exchange of information >between all of you. The prepend [SCOT DNA] is a clued that this is the >connection between you and who you may receive mail from. > >Should you have other off topic, Administrative in nature, questions or >comments, please send them to me off list to my admin address of >Scot-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com Consider that there are now a few hundred >people subscribed to this list -- is your message pertinent to the topic >they subscribed to read about? > >Yours Aye, > >Lauren M. Boyd, FSA Scot >Scot DNA List Admin > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the e-mail. How do I compare my DNA to others in the group? Thanks, Gary Gary B. Sutherland, CEO, CIC 5 Whittier Street, 4th Floor Framingham, Ma 01701 www.naplia.com Phone: 866-262-7542 ext 1350 Fax: 866-656-1399 -----Original Message----- From: scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of confido@ix.netcom.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:17 PM To: scot-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] ADMIN NOTE -->Re: No news is bad news: THREAD CLOSED Dear Listers: This thread is hereby closed. The list is sometimes quiet. If you want to wake it up, post something of Scot DNA relevance. To those of you that wonder why someone is contacting you, consider that you have requested to receive mail from those interested and involved with the Scottish Clans DNA Project and have subscribed to the Scot DNA list which supports the project and facilitates the exchange of information between all of you. The prepend [SCOT DNA] is a clued that this is the connection between you and who you may receive mail from. Should you have other off topic, Administrative in nature, questions or comments, please send them to me off list to my admin address of Scot-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com Consider that there are now a few hundred people subscribed to this list -- is your message pertinent to the topic they subscribed to read about? Yours Aye, Lauren M. Boyd, FSA Scot Scot DNA List Admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers: This thread is hereby closed. The list is sometimes quiet. If you want to wake it up, post something of Scot DNA relevance. To those of you that wonder why someone is contacting you, consider that you have requested to receive mail from those interested and involved with the Scottish Clans DNA Project and have subscribed to the Scot DNA list which supports the project and facilitates the exchange of information between all of you. The prepend [SCOT DNA] is a clued that this is the connection between you and who you may receive mail from. Should you have other off topic, Administrative in nature, questions or comments, please send them to me off list to my admin address of Scot-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com Consider that there are now a few hundred people subscribed to this list -- is your message pertinent to the topic they subscribed to read about? Yours Aye, Lauren M. Boyd, FSA Scot Scot DNA List Admin

Seeing as it is so quiet I will awaken you slightly with a small message. I have only just joined this group, and am seeking to get the Chisholm surname project group to become a project supported and promoted by the Clan Chisholm Council. My result should add a bit more variety to the Scots DNA, as it is showing as a relative rarity in the British Isles. As yet we cant tell if my result is indicative of the Clan, which is a Highland Clan but with Border origins, and with unproven pre-Scottish history as being Norman out of Tynedale. My Haplogroup will be confirmed before Christmas but marker results are following very closely the model for I1b1a (formerly I1b2) as worked out by Ken Nordvedt. Robert Chisholm -----Original Message----- From: scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 1:08 p.m. To: scot-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] No news is bad news Jim, I have not receeived anything recently, as well. Just a quiet list. Dave >I have not had any mail for a while have I dropped off the radar? > > James McPherson < lergiechonie@toucansurf.com > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 4:07 p.m.

Hello James! You're still on the list, as I also received your e-mail. -- Adele/Seattle -----Original Message----- From: scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Roberts Sent: December 05, 2006 6:50 PM To: scot-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] No news is bad news Refresh my memory. How well do I know you? -----Original Message----- From: scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scot-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Mcpherson Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:52 PM To: scot-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] No news is bad news I have not had any mail for a while have I dropped off the radar? James McPherson < lergiechonie@toucansurf.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The McPherson group project has two listed group administrators, but I know the principal administrator died last July and the second named administrator is not replying to E-Mail. Anyone got any ideas how to solve this problem>? J McPherson

Jim, I would agree with Dave McMillan Contact FTDNA, perhaps the Alternate is just having computer problems. Regards John Armstrong A little SoWest of North Jim Mcpherson wrote: > The McPherson group project has two listed group administrators, but I know the principal administrator died last July and the second named administrator is not replying to E-Mail. > > Anyone got any ideas how to solve this problem>? > > J McPherson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCOT-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would contact FTDNA and explain the situation. They should attempt to get in contact with the second administrator. If they're unsuccessful, is there someone who will step up and volunteer to take over the administrator duties? Dave McMillan > The McPherson group project has two listed group administrators, but I > know the principal administrator died last July and the second named > administrator is not replying to E-Mail. > > Anyone got any ideas how to solve this problem>? > > J McPherson