Russ -- Nice to hear from you. I believe we have a 11/12 match, or something like that, but I have to admit I haven't been looking at Coopers lately, instead concentrating on the Clark(e) surname which matches me 25/25 in a couple of cases. Kinda frustrating for a guy named Stewart, but any clue is better than nothing . . . anyway, have a great trip and keep me informed on Cooper and Scot-DNA developments. Mike Stewart > > From: Russ Cooper <rcoop7255@adelphia.net> > Date: 2005/12/19 Mon PM 09:41:23 PST > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Cooper DNA Project at FTDNA > > We have watched the increasing discourse of trying to find > Scottish locations with DNA and hopefully with genealogy paper trails. > Coopers we are not a Clan but an occupation beginning. However in FTDNA, > Coopers have 130 donors in a well run Cooper Project where results are > grouped by matches and include excellent paper trails in the USA also > reported. Getting across the Pond has been difficult. Our Coopers are > very probably Anglo-Scot-Irish, because of the Border Wars Dollarhide > speaks of in his books. Many Border people moved back and forth over the > border to avoid the many king's wars. Thus surname beginning locations > are more difficult to nail down. > Currently we have three Cooper lineages with good matches which > start with Haplogroup J [J is England and J1 is Scotland], followed by > Alleles of 12, 23, 14, 10, 15, etc. matches. We are a distinct group > with these marker matches appearing to originate in England. However two > of our lines begin in the USA in Salem, Washington Co., NY in a > Scotch/Scotch-Irish Presbyterian Covenanter ssettlement beginning in > 1764. Our family marriages are with Hamilton, Crawford, McFadden, > McFarland, McEachron, Creighton, Hunter, Hanna, Harsha, McGilvra, > Harrison, Wilson and we are connected with the Duguids and Coopers of > Aberdeenshire. Supposedly we came from Cootehill, Co. Cavan, N. IRE, but > this was a stopping off place probably only for about 10 to 20 years on > a Plantation, but from originally both Scotland and England. For my John > [1748-1803] and apparently his brother George [abt 1753-Abt 1825], they > could come from Aberdeenshire or maybe Northumberland, as can be noted > in the IGI. Then closely associated [living next to each other and > signing family documents for land, wills, etc.] is a Joseph Cooper > [1733-1819], who came from England to Ireland and then to Salem. For the > John and George lines we have definite DNA matches, but also with a > James from probably England to NJ. We are requesting a Joseph Cooper > descendant to donate a DNA sample to FTDNA soon, to help us find our > roots. These are focused DNA efforts. > But we are very interested in those of you, who we could > communicate with for info such as the Crawfords. My 4th GG Archi > [Harrison wife}Crawford came from Bruteshire and his father John [Wilson > wife] from Renfrewshire. It is this type of info we would like to > furnish to various surnames listed above to see if we can find some > paper trails that connect. In fact the Crawfords and the Duguids came to > Steuben Co., IN with the Coopers and have lived there together. > Can we have some correspondence, because this kind of > cooperation can usually payoff.? We placed our marker data in the SMGF > and only got 7 out of 19 marker matches, the highest and the related > paper trails were from the Ancestral File, which are very poor, > something known from long ago. > Unfortunately we leave tomorrow for Rochester and Boston for > Christmas Holidays, but will be back December 29th where in we will be > fully involved corresponding. > > Russ Cooper [216-397-1195 or cell phone 216-224-3572] > 2755 Derbyshire Road > Cleveland Heights, OH 44106 > Founder of NorthEast-Ohio - Computer-Aided-Genealogy ten years ago. Go > to our Website <NEOCAG.NET> > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Have questions about lab cost? Contact the Project Manager, > John A. Hansen, directly at dnaclans@brigadoon.net and he will > provide a private answer. > Want to join the Project? Visit: http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Bruce, Thanks for the explanation re. when and what to expect from SMGF - anything will be a positive step forward. Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Derek, > > SMGF's process for testing your DNA takes a long time. When they make > their periodic updates, currently about every six months, they will not > have completed testing for everyone who has submitted a sample, but they > will publish what results they do have as long as the results are for > about 8 or more markers. Data for the rest of the published markers will > generally be available by the next update. Eleven people in my surname > group sent me their names, e-mail addresses, and family trees last > November when they submitted their DNA samples to SMGF. I found them all > and their DNA test results in the update SMGF published last September and > sent them their results. Some of them received data for all 39 markers. > Some were one marker short. A few of us received data for only 21 of the > 39 markers, including me. I suspect that the testing for all those who > didn't receive the full set will be finished and published in the next > update, but I may be wrong. That is what I meant b! > y "the rest of the results." > > Bruce Baird > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Subscription and posting to the Scot-DNA list does not necessarily > indicate the poster is a participant in any DNA project. This list > is also for those interested in the subject, not just participating > in a project. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Derek, SMGF's process for testing your DNA takes a long time. When they make their periodic updates, currently about every six months, they will not have completed testing for everyone who has submitted a sample, but they will publish what results they do have as long as the results are for about 8 or more markers. Data for the rest of the published markers will generally be available by the next update. Eleven people in my surname group sent me their names, e-mail addresses, and family trees last November when they submitted their DNA samples to SMGF. I found them all and their DNA test results in the update SMGF published last September and sent them their results. Some of them received data for all 39 markers. Some were one marker short. A few of us received data for only 21 of the 39 markers, including me. I suspect that the testing for all those who didn't receive the full set will be finished and published in the next update, but I may be wrong. That is what I meant b! y "the rest of the results." Bruce Baird

SMGF maintains privacy for the live contributor but not for any of his ancestors born before 1900. SMGF will not send you your results, but it is a simple matter for anyone to obtain them from SMGF's public database, if he knows that you submitted a DNA sample and he knows your family tree. I have done this for about 15 people who are in the Baird Surname Project, www.bairddna.com Bruce Baird

Not sure if the 37 marker is of use. My understanding is that these markers are the first to mutate and only reliable for close matches. I have 115 matches, (most at a genetic distance of two) but none at 37 markers. All are almost entirely Scottish or boarder area. One of my closest matches is to a Robertson at 23/25, at 37 markers it came out at a 30/37 match, which I understand is quite acceptable between individuals who shared an ancestor about 800 years ago!! I also notice Ken, your "Scottish" DNA profile, but I guess we are not a close match. I have a Davenport (Crawford) near match, along with a number of other Davenports. Please don't ask what part of Scotland my family came from as my family was from Gloucestershire, going back to at least 1550. There is a connection with Northumberland and a Rampant Lion in the Roberts coat of Arms .............but I guess some families travelled a fair distance. Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good resource. -----Original Message----- From: walter [mailto:walter@macarthurnet.com] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:07 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] test kit I have been a member of this group for quite some time. I have requested a kit in the past and it was never received. I am unable to find information on requesting another kit. Can someone furnish a link so that I might request the kit and ensure the SCOT-DNA group has access to the results? My understanding is that there is a bit of a discount ordering through the SCOT-DNA a group as opposed to ordering directly from FTDNA. Do I want the 25 marker or the 37 marker? Thanks, Walter MacArthur The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Energis in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free. Mae fersiwn wreiddiol y neges e-bost hon wedi'i sganio am feirysau gan wasanaeth sganio feirysau Mewnrwyd Ddiogel y Llywodraeth (GSi) a ddarperir yn arbennig gan Energis mewn partneriaeth â MessageLabs. Wrth i'r neges e-bost hon adael GSi, ardystiwyd nad oedd firws ynddi.

John: If you already have some results, say a 12 markers, or if you submit the 5 generation chart, then you can search for your results in Sorensen either by your surname, or by the markers you know. If by the markers, once you have results, you check the pedigrees until you find your genealogy. Now you have your full set of Y DNA markers from Sorensen and you can find your genetic matches. To get your results in the database can take up to one year and there is no guarantee that they will get into the database. Steven C. Perkins SPerkins@interaccess.com http://stevencperkins.com/genealogy.html http://jgg-online.blogspot.com/ At 11:10 AM 12/19/2005, you wrote: >Dear Derek & Bruce: > >I think there could be a small misunderstanding taking place >here. Sorenson is building a huge database for future analysis >( and ties back to the genealogy information submitted) >and is not providing any information to contributors. > >SMGF does not return any results to the contributors. >See the posting by Frank of yesterday and see: > >http://smgf.org/participation.html > >Best Regards >John A Hansen > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Derek Ham [mailto:djham@btinternet.com] >Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:15 AM >To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > > >Bruce >I did the same with SMGF (who required minimum of 5 generations paper trail >backup), 3 months ago, and was wondering what was happening on the results. >Thanks for giving me a ballpark estimate on timing. Even though I had >undertaken the FTDNA 37-marker test I was interested in checking the results >against an independent FREE analysis as well as adding one or two new >markers. When you mention 'rest of the results', what do they include? >Derek > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> >To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:54 PM >Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > > > > Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that > > SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my > > results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. > > . > > Bruce Baird > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> > > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM > > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > > > >> Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think > >> you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. > >> I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > > >> resource. > >> > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > > Mailing List archives are at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > > Subscription to this list is free, as are all of Rootsweb's resources. > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > > THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely > > of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE > > in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration > > for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work > > necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been > > submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > >==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >DNA Results are also being posted on the web site. >Email to dnaclans@brigadoon.net if you want to join the >web site. For privacy reasons, this is a closed web site. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >rgetid=5429 > > > >==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >Per agreement with Rootsweb, there can be no marketing messsages >for any laboratory. No specific costs can be stated on list. >These questions can be responded to off list. > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Greetings: I am not sure how to access your yDNA data base. I think that I am listed, but I don't have a pass word or anything to back that up. I am I1a1 variety 3 and there aren't many of those around, although I think that the Hamilton's might fit that profile. Do you have others in that category, besides possibly myself. Sincerely William Hirst Curry, III

John and list, I know where the website is now at FTDNA thanks to John and others. Everyone just remember, look under geographical then search Scottish clans, not Scotland (like I did).. John, Can you attach that web link to your messages or this mailing list to make it easy for people to find it in the future. It seems natural that this mailing list would have a link if Rootsweb allows it, so that people could click on it from any of the list messages. Who knows how many people have failed to find the project at FTDNA as I have. I searched for Scotland not Scottish clans. Best Regards Scott > [Original Message] > From: <BWGood@aol.com> > To: <> > Date: 12/18/2005 10:05:13 PM > Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] Scotish dna project > > In a message dated 12/18/05 10:17:31 PM, jahansen6@comcast.net writes: > > > > d: The project is listed at Family Tree in order to provide� a group > > testing > > � �� price for any that are not attached to a group. > > > I have tried to find it listed at Family Tree and could not find it. > Perhaps you could tell us how to look for it. > Barbara > > ______________________________

Bruce I did the same with SMGF (who required minimum of 5 generations paper trail backup), 3 months ago, and was wondering what was happening on the results. Thanks for giving me a ballpark estimate on timing. Even though I had undertaken the FTDNA 37-marker test I was interested in checking the results against an independent FREE analysis as well as adding one or two new markers. When you mention 'rest of the results', what do they include? Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that > SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my > results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. > . > Bruce Baird > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > >> Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think >> you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. >> I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > >> resource. >> > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Mailing List archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Subscription to this list is free, as are all of Rootsweb's resources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely > of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE > in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration > for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work > necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been > submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Mr. Livingston I wonder if your y dna results are similar to some livingstons that I am familiar with. We are a group of people that seem to be desended from an individual from W. Scotland, and we have a rather unusual DNA profile. If you have time please look at http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/MacWho_results.htm Regards, and Merry Christmas Terry Porter R Livingston wrote: >John, I'm interested in the mtDNA gift certificate. Is this one still >available? > >russ > >Livingston's of Callendar > > >==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== >DNA Results are also being posted on the web site. >Email to dnaclans@brigadoon.net if you want to join the >web site. For privacy reasons, this is a closed web site. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Howdy All: For some reason, I thought I had included links to the project description, etc. at FTDNA in the taglines for this list. Apparently, I have done so for the other DNA lists I administer, but unfortunately NOT for this one. Thanks for pointing it out. I have now added to several of the taglines the link to the Project's description, etc. <http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Scottish-Clans&projecttype=G> Shona Nollaig! Yours Aye, Lauren Boyd, FSA Scot Scot DNA List Admin

Dear Derek & Bruce: I think there could be a small misunderstanding taking place here. Sorenson is building a huge database for future analysis ( and ties back to the genealogy information submitted) and is not providing any information to contributors. SMGF does not return any results to the contributors. See the posting by Frank of yesterday and see: http://smgf.org/participation.html Best Regards John A Hansen -----Original Message----- From: Derek Ham [mailto:djham@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:15 AM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit Bruce I did the same with SMGF (who required minimum of 5 generations paper trail backup), 3 months ago, and was wondering what was happening on the results. Thanks for giving me a ballpark estimate on timing. Even though I had undertaken the FTDNA 37-marker test I was interested in checking the results against an independent FREE analysis as well as adding one or two new markers. When you mention 'rest of the results', what do they include? Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that > SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my > results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. > . > Bruce Baird > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > >> Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think >> you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. >> I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > >> resource. >> > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Mailing List archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Subscription to this list is free, as are all of Rootsweb's resources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely > of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE > in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration > for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work > necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been > submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== DNA Results are also being posted on the web site. Email to dnaclans@brigadoon.net if you want to join the web site. For privacy reasons, this is a closed web site. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

In a message dated 12/18/05 10:17:31 PM, jahansen6@comcast.net writes: > d: The project is listed at Family Tree in order to provide  a group > testing >      price for any that are not attached to a group. > I have tried to find it listed at Family Tree and could not find it. Perhaps you could tell us how to look for it. Barbara

Hi Walter, My advice is for you to go to World Families website and create a family group for testing. I looked to see if they have a family project for the MacArthur name and they don't, at least under the spellings I could find. So you can be the first. If you do this, you'll get a family discount, and you can start your own research project. www.worldfamilies.net You can see a project I began with a fellow family cousin at www.StclairResearch.com It's quite fun, and guarantees you a discounted rate. > I have been a member of this group for quite some time. I have requested > a kit in the past and it was never received. > I am unable to find information on requesting another kit. > Can someone furnish a link so that I might request the kit and ensure > the SCOT-DNA group has access to the results? My understanding is that > there is a bit of a discount ordering through the SCOT-DNA a group as > opposed to ordering directly from FTDNA. > Do I want the 25 marker or the 37 marker? > > Thanks, > Walter MacArthur > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > All posts to this list are archived and cannot be edited from: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Please bear this in mind if you are considering posting > anything of a sensitive nature re your personal DNA. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Barbara - I beleive this is the one that has been referred to as in association with this mailing List, located here ... just below the Scotland Project :) http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_sum.asp?let=S&projecttype=G Scottish Clans Project Members: 60 Website:WWW.MYFAMILY.COM Description: The purpose of the Scottish Clans DNA program is to provide a DNA test to members of all the Scottish Clans. This DNA test will allow descendants of that Clan to: ............ BWGood@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/18/05 10:17:31 PM, jahansen6@comcast.net writes: d: The project is listed at Family Tree in order to provide a group testing price for any that are not attached to a group. I have tried to find it listed at Family Tree and could not find it. Perhaps you could tell us how to look for it.Barbara

Dear Jim: We are not a closed group by any means! We have A: A mailing list ( that you used here and is part of our project) Very few of the DNA projects have a specific mailing list attached and administered in our case by Lauren Boyd ( who is a qualified FSA) B: A web site that provides the datebase and file section for posting of the the individual genealogy ancestry. C: A searchable database with 1100 results. d: The project is listed at Family Tree in order to provide a group testing price for any that are not attached to a group. I don't find any request from you to join our group and we would be happy to provide any or all of the 4 components that you desire. Best Regards John A Hansen -----Original Message----- From: James R Carr [mailto:n7fcf@hctc.com] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:02 PM To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCOT-DNA] Scotish dna project It sounds interesting. But what good is a closed group? So you send in your application and hear nothing. A note saying we received it would be nice. So someone else notices a vacumn and starts to fill it an you-all start grumbling we were here first. how would they know when you-all won't even answer an e-mail of inquiry? Jim ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== Have questions about the lab? About privacy? About the process? Visit the FAQ page: http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

SMGF conforms to strict security standards to maintain the privacy of the donors and their generic profiles. Due to privacy issues, samples are analyzed for database construction purposes only and individual results are not given back to participants. However, you may obtain your genetic marker profile from a commercial lab if you would like to search the SMGF database. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bbairdsr@aol.com> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that > SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my > results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. > . > Bruce Baird > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> > To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM > Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > >> Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think >> you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. >> I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > >> resource. >> > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > Mailing List archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ > Subscription to this list is free, as are all of Rootsweb's resources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== > THANK YOU to all the Scot DNA Volunteers! They give freely > of their time and effort to this Project and study. NO ONE > in this Project receives any financial or in-kind remuneration > for their work. Please be patient with them as they perform the work > necessary to analyze and report the findings of what has been > submitted to the Project by a multitude of sources. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Being the thrifty Scot I am, I preferred to take the 39 marker test that SMGF provides for FREE. I didn't mind waiting 11 months before most of my results were available and I expect the rest of the results by March 2006. . Bruce Baird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think > you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. > I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > resource. > ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== Mailing List archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOT-DNA/ Subscription to this list is free, as are all of Rootsweb's resources. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

John, I'm interested in the mtDNA gift certificate. Is this one still available? russ Livingston's of Callendar

And when you do get your DNA results,send them also to the National Geographics GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT,the results are quite interesting and it only costs $15. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roberts" <k.w.roberts@swbell.net> To: <SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] test kit > Just go to familytreedna website and it will give options. If you think > you're going to pursue this dna thing all the way, do the 37 marker test. > I'm learning how to use all of this information so I'm not a good > resource. >