The Newberry County Court has copies of all these records and a computer index as well...but I'm not sure they will do any looking via mail etc...usually they tell you they don't do genealogy research...at one time many years ago I wrote and requested an index of their Coats probate index and they sent me the computer printout of what they have... The SC Archives also has probate records and also the FHC...I've found the FHC microfilm to be my first resource, if I can't find it there I go to the Archive and then to the Court... Charlotte ----Original Message Follows---- From: HONDO108@aol.com To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCNEWBER] Probate Records late 1700's??? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:15:30 EDT Another kind list member has advised me to find probated records on Smith families in Newberry County for the late 1700's. Does anyone know how to go about this? I am at a loss and don't know where to write, call, email or what and what information could I give them in that the only information I have comes from the 1790 census? Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Mary Hondo108@aol.com ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== < Visit the following Rootsweb sites regarding Newberry Co., SC > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scnewber/ http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC/Newberry/ ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Another kind list member has advised me to find probated records on Smith families in Newberry County for the late 1700's. Does anyone know how to go about this? I am at a loss and don't know where to write, call, email or what and what information could I give them in that the only information I have comes from the 1790 census? Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Mary Hondo108@aol.com

<< ......... 2 Sally (Sarah?) Morris 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 ............. +Benjamin Waites ......... 2 Rosannah (Roseta) Morris 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 ............. +Simpson Waites 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 d: in Coosa County, AL >> Bonnie Farner, Might you know anything further on these Waites men? WAITES is another of my husband's surnames -- I have not been able to place the 2 wives of James Pinckney (b. 1845) BUTLER: Roda S. (b. 1850) and Nannie (b. 1860) WAIT(E)S, so I've been trying to study everyone in the Newberry area with the surname. Below is how I have your WAITES men, with a difference in the one wife's surname. Any comments? Thanks so much! Bonnie Butler Descendants of William Waits 1 William WAITS b: Bef. 1805 d: Sep 02, 1843 -+Mary _ b: Bef. 1805 d: Aft. 1843 - 2 John WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Amy _ d: Aft. 1843 - 2 James WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Lydia _ d: Aft. 1843 - 2 Simeon WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Judy _ d: Aft. 1843 - 2 Simpson WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Rose SEALY d: Aft. 1843 - 2 Benjamin WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Sarah _ d: Aft. 1843 - 2 Drucilla WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +William LANGFORD d: Aft. 1843 - 2 Vincent WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Martha _ - 2 Silas K. WAITS b: Bef. 1825 d: Aft. 1843 ----- +Martha Anne _ d: Aft. 1843 This is according to George Leland Summer, Sr., _Newberry County, SC: Historical and Genealogical Annals_, (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing, 1980.).

I have a John Kinard who married Polly Morris. They moved to Florida before 1850. I have no other information but it will point you in the right direction if this is your John Kinard. 1 unknown .. +Samuel Morris 1773 - 1850 b: Abt. 1773 d: February 04, 1850 in Prosperity, SC Newberry County ......... 2 Polly Morris** ............. +John Kinard** ......... 2 Thomas Morris ............. +Unknown Morris ......... 2 Elizabeth Morris ............. +Jethro Harmon ......... 2 George Morris 1795 - 1873 b: July 14, 1795 d: June 22, 1873 in Newberry Co. SC, buried at Zion Meth. Ch. ............. +Mary Ann Harmon 1799 - 1862 b: November 11, 1799 d: March 16, 1862 in Newberry Co. SC, buried at Zion Meth. Ch. ......... 2 Sally (Sarah?) Morris 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 ............. +Benjamin Waites ......... 2 Rosannah (Roseta) Morris 1812 - b: Abt. 1812 ............. +Simpson Waites 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 d: in Coosa County, AL

<< I have an Ezekiel Harlan married to a Hannah Lewis...Cherokee Indians...related back to Nancy Ward in NC, TN and SC >> Charlotte, Could you elaborate any on them? My husband descends from the HARLING family 6 times over, with a couple Ezekiels thrown in there, too, but his last being b. 1747 Germany. Do you have this one's dates or any other data? Thanks, Bonnie Butler surname list: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/u/t/Bonnie-Ferguson-Butler/

...... Catherine Smith m. Jerman Fike Caroline Elizabeth "Betsy" Smith m. James Franklin Price......... Mary, Might you have more on these spouses of the children of Solomon Smith? I have a lot of FIKE (s) data for Lexington/Newberry and a bit of PRICE data, but do not have either. I did look up each of the other parents/siblings, too, but no luck. Do you have more on the HARLAN family? There are scads of HARLINGs in Edgefield, right next to Newberry, and part of Old 96 -- I have a good bit on them. Thanks for any FIKE / PRICE details. Bonnie Butler surname list: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/u/t/Bonnie-Ferguson-Butler/

Seeking any information on the Gruber and Smith families in and around Newberry County, SC, i.e... John Gruber, Nancy Gruber, John A. Smith, Garry Smith, Martha Smith, Drayton Smith, John Henry Gruber, Mary Givens, Epsie Frye/Fry and, Obed or Obediah Smith. I've been at a stand still for sometime with this family and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Debi in Augusta, GA

Glenna, I have a John M. Kinard b. 3 July 1833 whose parents were Henry H. Kinard b. 29 March 1806 d. 17 June 1869 and Mary Ann Counts b. 2 March 1809 d. 19 March 1851. John M. Kinard had a brother James M. Kinard b. 15 September 1829. Henry H. Kinard's parents were: Martin Kinard, Jr. and Eve Catherine Koon b. 8 September 1787 d. 14 September 1856. Don't know it this is the John M. Kinard that you were looking for or not......if so, hope it is of some help ! Marlene Koon, Eleazer, Ellisor, Wessinger, Derrick, Epting, Shealy, Eargle and other Dutch Fork surnames >From: GKinard@aol.com >Subject: [SCNEWBER] Newberry SCV Camp 35, John M. Kinard >Can someone please tell me who John M. Kinard was? I understand the SCV camp >35 named their group after him. Who were his parents? Grands? >Thanks for any help, >Glenna

Do you have the membership for the Upper Duncan Creek Baptist Church or where did you get your info on this church...my Coats family or related somewhere is also in the Bush River Baptist Church...I think Charles Crow was neighbor as well...seems there were a couple of them, Charles Crows... Your Harlan line sounds interesting...I have an Ezekiel Harlan married to a Hannah Lewis...Cherokee Indians...related back to Nancy Ward in NC, TN and SC or commonly referred to as the Cherokee Nation...<g>... Charlotte ----Original Message Follows---- From: HONDO108@aol.com To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCNEWBER] Fwd: Smith/Crow/Harlan/Hopper/Langston/Fike/Kynerd/Price/Young/Airey Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:34:24 EDT In 1834 Solomon Smith resigned from the Upper Duncan's Creek Baptist Church (now Langston's Baptist Church) and with Betsy and their family moved to Perry County, Alabama. There they became members of the Oakmulgee Baptist Church. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 5/3/00 4:36:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HONDO108@aol.com writes: > Am looking for information about the parents and siblings of Solomon Smith > born October 22, 1785 in Spartanburg District (Old 96th), SC. Mary, Is the entry in the LDS IGI database incorrect? It indicates that Solomon was the son of William W. SMITH and Elizabeth LANGSTON. Regards, Drew Smith (not related to Solomon)

--part1_a6.3d6de5a.2641e750_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_a6.3d6de5a.2641e750_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <HONDO108@aol.com> From: HONDO108@aol.com Full-name: HONDO108 Message-ID: <be.3622619.2641e6ff@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:33:03 EDT Subject: Smith/Crow/Harlan/Hopper/Langston/Fike/Kynerd/Price/Young/Airey To: SMITH-L@RootsWeb.com CC: ALPERRY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 102 Haven't posted in a while so thought I'd try again in case we have some new list members. Am looking for information about the parents and siblings of Solomon Smith born October 22, 1785 in Spartanburg District (Old 96th), SC. and died January 6, 1861 in Perry County, AL. In 1814 Solomon married Elizabeth "Betsy" Crow. She was the daughter of Reverend Charles Crow (affiliated with the Bush River Baptist Church) and Sarah Harlan Crow. In 1834 Solomon Smith resigned from the Upper Duncan's Creek Baptist Church (now Langston's Baptist Church) and with Betsy and their family moved to Perry County, Alabama. There they became members of the Oakmulgee Baptist Church. Solomon and Betsy had the following children: Charles Crow Smith m. Mary Ellen Hopper Sarah H. Smith m. William Henry Langston Catherine Smith m. Jerman Fike Rebecca Jane Smith m. John White Suttle(s) Mary Francis Smith m. William P. Suttle(s) Jr. Martha Elizabeth Smith m. Daniel P. Kynerd George Rayford Smith m. Mary Ann Kynerd Caroline Elizabeth "Betsy" Smith m. James Franklin Price William Winn Smith m. Elizabeth Ann Young Emma Rochelle Smith m. Joseph Cornelius Airey Solomon is my "brick wall" and any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Mary Hondo108@aol.com --part1_a6.3d6de5a.2641e750_boundary--

Can someone please tell me who John M. Kinard was? I understand the SCV camp 35 named their group after him. Who were his parents? Grands? Thanks for any help, Glenna ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gkinard@aol.com --- Researching: Porter, McCants, Cobb, Martin, Rawlinson, Gill, Higgins, Scott, Harrison, Fetner; and Bryant, McDade, Dillard, Tolleson, Wells, Baxter, Eaves; and Kinard, Wise, Thaxton, Vickers, Patton, Hubbard, Wilkins, Long/Lang, Latta (Branch 28), Mauldin, Dismukes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pat; I have a mystery Scott in my database. The records I have found only list his name as J.B.T. Scott. I have no information regarding his birth or death dates and I don't know who his parents were. He was married to an ancestor of mine, Catherine Summer (b. 1858). Her parents were Henry Summer, Esq. (b. 1809 d. 1867) and Frances "Fanny" Mayer. Do you know anything about this Scott? Thanks for any assistance you can give me. Charlotte Holder Herridge fastpattie@webtv.net wrote: > My name is Pat Rush and I am still looking for info or a connection to > JOHN SCOTT / MARY JANE REYNOLDS, who were my G-grandparents. They had > two known children, WALTER E. SCOTT, b. Aug. 24, 1885 in Newberry,SC and > a daughter, ZITA SCOTT last known address Columbia SC in 1954. Can > anyone connect ? Nothing more is known about John and Mary Jane. Any > connections out there? > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > < Visit the following Rootsweb sites regarding Newberry Co., SC > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scnewber/ > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC/Newberry/ > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Does anyone have any info on JOHN and Mary "POLLY" DAVIS in Newberry, Laurens, Union Counties South Carolina 1790, 1800, 1810 ? Thanks, Bob Davis Vancouver, WA

Re Query on Wiley J Jonesdate 4/15. Am looking for Wileys parents or siblings .Hoping to find a Jones relative back in Newberry. He moved his family to Monroe Co La. Then to Ar. in about late 1850. Some of his wifes Bailey ken stayed in Monroe and others went to Ar. I can find nothing on any Jones family in that group who moved at same time. Thanks for your response Betty Doherty Pine Bluff, Ar.

Searching for any info on Wiley J Jones. B 1816 SC newberry or laurens co. M Laura Ann Frances Bailey, Daughter of Coleman Bailey and Fanny Shell. Son Pinkney Burr Jones B 2 Feb 1845 in Newberry . Pinkney was my GGrandfather. I have no info on Wiley J Jones and would appreciate any help you could give me. Wiley left SC approx early 1850's Thank you Betty Doherty Pine Bluff Ar

In a message dated 4/11/0 9:47:54 PM, jsw@bitstreet.com writes: << It's been a while since writing you, hope you are doing alright. I am still digging in research of our families. Here about a month or so ago, my computer crashed, not once, but twice and ended up having to get another one. I managed to restore all my files, but yours. I had all, I thought, backed up, but your file was blank. It went off into LaLa land somewhere. I am still trying to connect the Wilkerson and Wilkinson line. Could I ask you a big favor, would you send you file again so I can import it into my data base. We are related so many ways, I have referred to your files many times. With my newer computer I have plenty of space now, and I am adding to my files daily and backing up daily. Have you had any success in finding anything on your Nathan Davis? >> Jean, WELCOME BACK! I am doing fine ! Using a computer is always a gamble ! Ha! You never want to put into one any information u cant afford to loose. I use AOL and they have a neat (for them) trick in that you cannot print your 'favorite places' so you alwas loose them if you change services. Almost the same thing with addresses, so its always a good idea to copy and email to yourself any favorite places you want 'later' I have found that you can print your address book. AOL tells you that you can carry these forward to upgrades but I lost both addresses and favorite places when upgrading from 3 to 4. Enough about my troubles. In a seperate email I have sent you my davis.ged Please let me know if it transfers ok. I have a question. In my mind I have you located in Sardis, MS.Is that so ? If it is so, you are located 'right in the middle' of many of your ancestors and descendants, and I will be glad to guide you. About Nathan-I have a real good lead on him back to the Newberry County SC area, which is a real breakthru for me. Evidently, Martha O. Fowler, who is buried in the Wesley Chapel cemetery in Lauderdale, AL is Martha Odell Duckett Fowler who is Levi Fowler's widow (and Nathans mother-in-law) from Newberry Co., SC. SC has rather good records so I have my work cut out for me. L&S, Bob Davis Vancouver, WA

The information I have re Reverend Charles Crow differs from what was posted earlier. I have that he moved to Perry County, Alabama and was instrumental in setting up a number of churches there, one being the Ocmulgee Baptist Church. My direct line, Solomon Smith who married Rev. Crow's daughter, Betsy, moved to Perry County in 1834 following his father-in-law. Rev. Crow died June 12, 1845 in Perry County. Charles Crow Sr. passed in 1802. Mary

With regard to Mary's request for information on Charles Crow and family. This family name has arisen often in my own searches of the Newberrry area, especially in the minutes of the Bush River Baptist Church where my own family of John and Rebekah Sterling were members, along with many cousins in the Pitts, and Waldrop families. The Sterlings were my ggggrandparents. Their grandson Hosea, also listed, is my great grandfather. I note the following to save a lot of searching. The Bush River Baptist Church minutes has the following references for Charles Crow and other Crow family. ========================== 1799, Oct 12 Charles Crow and his wife Sarah Crow were received by experience ======================= Charles and Sarah are listed again in 1802, which case may have been a re-organization of the Church. 1803, 1. Charles Crow examined, along with several others, for the gift of preaching. 2. Charles Crow chosen, along with several others to represent the Chrurch at the Association conference. 1805 Oct 2 James Teague, Charles Crow and John Pitts licensed to preach. 1807 Aug 8 James Teague and Charles Crow called to the ministry, and date set for their ordination in this same month. As Charles Crow Sen. is listed as among the dead members in Sept 1802 This was apparently Charles Crow Jr. being spoken of later, both are listed among the male members of the church, along with a third Charles Crow. The latter may be a duplication of names. Charles Crow Jr. is listed as dead on Nov. 16, 1815. An Elizabeth Crow is listed as dead on Nov. 4, 1815. She may have been a sister. Apparently Sarah was the mother. This information is taken from the transcribed .doc file in the Coates site of South Carolina. Hope this information is a help. Best wishes, Doyle Homepage: http://www.dwchambers.com

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