While in Newberry, SC this past weekend my mother found quite a bit of family information. I thought someone might benefit from the following wills of Lisles from Newberry County. __________________________________________ 1797 WILLIAMSON LILES Joice Liles, Admin; will annexed 2 Oct 1794. Proven 1 March 1797 Bk. B, p. 90----wife. Joice Liles, Negroes Charles, James, girl cate, girl Diler, girl Hanner; Now in case John Ford, son of Ann Liles makes a lawful right and title to 100 acres to Jacob King on Indina Creek then said negro girl Hanner to be lawful right of said Ann Liles; children; also one horse called Lightfoot and one called Liberty other farm animals and house hold furniture during her widowhood, then to be divided among the last children of said Joice Liles as follows: Henry Liles and Marcus Liles to have all my lands, allowing my son William by my first wife to live on it as long as he chooses. --dau; Lucy Goree, Sabra Vardamna, and Drusilla Dawkins ( children of these daughters ]; Negroes agnes, Dorcas, Haar, and Molly. --son; Ephraim Liles, 1 shilling --son; Wm. Liles, negro Harry --dau; Rebecca Lakes three children, ( Lydia & Ann & Rebecca Lake); negro Chain and her increase. --Executores; son Ephrain Liles and my son in law. --witnesses; John Goree, Edmund Kelly, William Liles L.A. 28 Jul 1797, LWT with will annexed; recorded Bk B. p. 173---to Joice Liles. W.A. 28 July 1797; Joice Liles, Admin; recorded Bk B. p 174 --Ruben Sims, Nathaniel Henderson, John Stewart, Barber Hancock. App. 2 Sep 1797. Total 539:1:11; recorded Bk B. p. 175 --Negroes: Charles, James, Harry, Cate, Chain, Dilce, Hanner; farm animals, beds, spinning wheel. gun, carpenter tools, kitchenware, books, farm tools. Sale-- 2 April 1798; recorded Bk B. p. 212 --Negro Harry sold to Joice Liles, Executor, for 73 pounds ________________________________________- Will of Henry Liles 1795 HENRY LILES Nancy Liles, Admin L. A. 18 May 1795 --to Nancy Liles, widow of Henry decd; recorded Bk A. p. 304 A.B. 18 May 1795 40 Pounds ----Nancy Liles, Ephraim Liles, John Goree. W.A. 18 May 1795 recorded Bk A, p 304 ---------John Goree, Ephraim Liles, Sr, Thoroughgood Chambers, James Kelly App. 11 July 1795; recorded Bk A, p 305. Total 27:13:8 -----farm animals, beds, loom, carpenter tools, farm tools, kitchenware, Bible. Sale--- 8 Aug 1795 ---No Names... 34:8:9. _____________________________ Heny Lyles, Lisles parents are Ephraim Lyles Sr. and Ann Margaret Lyther Williamson's Lyles or Lisles parents are John Lyles and Anne ?

Can anyone help with this Thurman LYLES? Ray Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Name: Thurman LYLES Birth about 1883 SC Marriages/Children 1. Lizzy PARKER Marriage 1903 (age 20)

I was wondering if anyone has any information on Rowland Andrews, Married to Mary (Davidson). They had 2 children as far as I know, the names are Catherine and Andrew Jackson Andrews. I would like information where they came from? I think it might have been Mechlenburg Va. but some others are doing research and cannot put him in this group. I know he died in New berry in 1820, any help would be appreciated. thanks Pam Holmes Pam@snowhill.com

Victoria, my Goree records indicate that Mildred Goree , dtr of Daniel and Elizabeth (Brittian) Goree, married second Ephriam Lyles Jr. Daniel listed daughter Mildred Lyles in his will proven March 19, 1801 in Newberry Co. S.C.. Also Will of John Goree Sr. ( first cousin of Daniel) proven 28 July 1795 in Newberry County S.C. mentions daughter Joyce Liles who reportedely was married to William Liles(Lyles). How do these Goree daughters fit into Lyles outlined by you? Best regards. Barry VABrannon@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/6/01 7:25:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Gesslr@aol.com > writes: > > > From: Gesslr@aol.com > > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com">SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Would William Lyles be a brother of Ephraim and Arromanus? Uncle Abraham > > Gordon 1804-1880 married Cornelia Lyles daughter of Wm.Lyles and wife Jane > > of Newberry, Co.SC. > > Mary Caldwell Gordon,sister to Abraham, married Cornelia Lyles' > > brother,John > > Edrington Lyles. Mary and John Lyles moved to Chickasaw County, MS. One > > of > > Mary and John's sons was named Ephraim Lyles,b 1828 SC and died in 1863, > > from > > wounds received in the Civil War. Thanks, Sheila > > > > This is an Outline Chart showing the brothers and sisters or Arromanus Lyles. > Descendants of EPHRAIM LYLES, Sr. > > 1 EPHRAIM LYLES, Sr. 1720 - 1764 Born: Abt. 1720 in Virginia Died: > Abt. 1764 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (killed by Indians) > ... +Ann Margaret Lyther 1725 - 1762 Born: Abt. 1725 in Virginia Died: > Aft. 1762 in Fairfield Co., S.C. > . 2 [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles 1748 - 1817 Born: 1748 in Craven Co. (now > Fairfield) Died: September 02, 1817 in Fairfield Co., SC (buried near Lyles > Ford ) > ...... +Mary (Sallie) Means 1753 - 1772 Born: October 20, 1753 in > Boston, MA Died: Abt. 1772 in Fairfield Co., S.C. > . *2nd Wife of [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles: > ...... +Rebecca Valentine 1755 - Born: Abt. 1755 in Fairfield Co., > S.C. > . *3rd Wife of [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles: > ...... +Susannah Kennerly Fennel > . 2 James (Col.) Lyles 1750 - 1780 Born: Abt. 1750 in Granville Co., NC > Died: July 01, 1780 in Chester Co., SC > . 2 William Lyles 1753 - 1805 Born: Abt. 1753 in Craven Co. (now > Fairfield) Died: Abt. 1805 in (bur. 1806 in Fairfield Co., S.C.) > ...... +Elizabeth Ward 1758 - 1810 Born: Abt. 1758 in Fairfield Co., > S.C. Died: Bet. 1810 - 1820 in Fairfield Co., S.C. > . 2 John (Maj.) Lyles 1755 - 1838 Born: June 15, 1755 in Ninety-Six > Dist., S.C (now Newberry Co.) Died: Bet. 1838 - 1845 in Escambia Co., FL > ...... +Sarah Rabb(?) > . 2 Henry (Capt.) Lyles 1757 - 1795 Born: Abt. 1757 in Craven Co. (now > Fairfield) Died: 1795 in Newberry Co., SC > ...... +Nancy (Ann) 1763 - Born: Abt. 1763 in Craven Co., (now > Fairfield) Died: in Newberry Co, SC > . 2 [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. 1760 - 1820 Born: Abt. 1760 in Craven > Dist., (Fairfield Co.) SC Died: Abt. 1820 in Newberry Co., SC > ...... +Susannah Ederington 1763 - 1801 Born: Abt. 1763 in Fairfield > (or Newberry) Co., SC Died: Bef. 1801 in Newberry Co., SC > . *2nd Wife of [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR.: > ...... +ELIZABETH ANDERSON 1765 - Born: Bet. 1765 - 1770 in Newberry > Co., SC > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > The following is my data on Maj. Ephraim Lyles, Jr., whose first wife was > Susannah Ederington, and second was Elizabeth Anderson.: > Descendants of EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. > > 1 [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. 1760 - 1820 Born: Abt. 1760 in Craven > Dist., (Fairfield Co.) SC Died: Abt. 1820 in Newberry Co., SC > ... +Susannah Ederington 1763 - 1801 Born: Abt. 1763 in Newberry Co., > SC Died: Bef. 1801 in Newberry Co., SC > . 2 [1] Elizabeth Carolina Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 > ...... +James Padgett > . *2nd Husband of [1] Elizabeth Carolina Lyles: > ...... +David Anderson > . 2 James E. Lyles 1784 - 1842 Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 Died: 1842 > ...... +Celia > . 2 Mary Ann Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 in Newberry Co., SC > ...... +Russell Vaughan > . 2 Robert Lyles 1784 - 1847 Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 Died: 1847 in > Newberry Co., SC > ...... +Jane > . 2 Susannah Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 > ...... +Robert R. Wilson > . 2 Nancy Lyles 1791 - Born: 1791 > ...... +George Red > . 2 William E. Lyles 1796 - Born: 1796 > . 2 John Ederington Lyles 1798 - Born: 1798 > *2nd Wife of [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR.: > ... +ELIZABETH ANDERSON 1765 - Born: Bet. 1765 - 1770 in Newberry Co., > SC > . 2 MILLIE (PERMELIA) LYLES 1805 - 1869 Born: Abt. 1805 in Newberry Co., > S.C. Died: May 1869 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (bur. at old Home Place) > ...... +BENJAMIN DICKERSON 1802 - 1880 Born: Abt. 1802 in Fairfield Co., > S.C. Died: Bef. 1880 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (bur. at old Home Place) > . 2 Narcissa C. Lyles 1810 - Born: Bet. 1810 - 1820 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > If I can help you further, please let me know. > Best........Victoria Pickrell > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I'm trying to prove a marriage date between James Regan and possibly Catharine nee Crumley which took place in ca1810 in Newberry, SC. Is there any way to locate a record of a marriage in that year in Newberry Co.? Another researcher, several years ago, posted to the LDS records that Catharine Crumley was the wife of James Regan, but when questioned as to her documentation, stated that she hadn't kept very good records and had no idea where it had come from. These are my 3-great grandparents, and I have never been able to prove Catharine's last name. Regards, Jerry Crumly Pensacola

Claire,do you know the address? I am in FL and would have to send a written request. Thanks. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: St.Claire Sease [SMTP:sclaires@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:02 PM To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCNEWBERRY] Newberry County Vital Records After 50 years, the Dept of Health & Enviromental Control releases the death certificates to the SC State Archives. Anyone can get a copy and if you go out there, you can get it right then and there at 50 cents apiece if you do it yourself. I know because I have done that. St.Claire Sease sclaires@bellsouth.net Nancy Parr wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I've not ordered a death certificate from SC but have a few > questions. On another list, several people were talking about death > certificates and they said unless you can prove you are a sibling, parent or > child of the deceased, it is almost impossible to get any information. Has > anyone encountered this type of situation? > Most of my research has been in NC and Georgia and getting copies of > the death certificates from these two states was very simple; send in your > check and they send you a certified copy of the actual certificate. > Does anyone know if there is a Death Index available for SC? Many > of the larger libraries in Georgia have ones for that state. > Would appreciate any imput for future references. > Regards, > Nancy E Parr > -----Original Message----- > From: SGarr55321@aol.com <SGarr55321@aol.com> > To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com <SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:35 PM > Subject: [SCNEWBERRY] Newberry County Vital Records > > Has anyone requested records from Newberry County? > > I need to request death certificates for 2 of my great-grandfathers. They > both died after 1920. Is it possible to request a search for 10 years from > the county vital records department? > > Stacey C. Garrison > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Melinda,would beinterested inwhat you might find in your books aout my ancestor David Fargason, his son Johnson Fargason, Daniel Goree, Major Lewis Hogg. David recieved a land grant for 300 acres land 24 August 1784 in the District of Ninety Six on the waters of Peters Creek on the South of the Broad river.

Hello :-) Thank you very much for this information! If they have not been deceased for the '50-year' period, where would the death certificates be housed? In the county in which they died? Each state is different; some are in the local county offices; some are sent directly to the capitol. Just wondering about the rules governing SC. Thank you, Nancy E Parr -----Original Message----- From: St.Claire Sease <sclaires@bellsouth.net> To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com <SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [SCNEWBERRY] Newberry County Vital Records >After 50 years, the Dept of Health & Enviromental Control releases the death >certificates to the SC State Archives. Anyone can get a copy and if you go out >there, you can get it right then and there at 50 cents apiece if you do it >yourself. I know because I have done that. > >St.Claire Sease >sclaires@bellsouth.net >

Barbara, Are you trying to unsubscribe from the list, or to change your email address from one address to another? In order to do either, you will need to send an email to the following address: SCNEWBER-L-request@rootsweb.com Sending an unsub message to the list itself does not work :-) If you encounter any problems, just email me and I'll be glad to help in any way I can. Regards, Nancy E Parr -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Watson <vatex1@excite.com> To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com <SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: [SCNEWBERRY] NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: vatex@quik.com > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Send a cool gift with your E-Card >http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > >==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== >< Visit the following Rootsweb sites regarding Newberry Co., SC > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~scnewber/ >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC/Newberry/ > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Vicki, I can go up to the State Archives and get a copy for only 50 cents each since I live right here in Columbia. There is no problem in doing it yourself since they are on microfilm and they have the readers and printers right there. If you let me know, I will get up there before too much longer since I have some things to look up there anyway. St.Claire Sease sclaires@bellsouth.net VABrannon@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/5/01 11:13:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nancparr@bellsouth.net writes: > > > . > > Does anyone know if there is a Death Index available for SC? Many > > of the larger libraries in Georgia have ones for that state. > > Would appreciate any imput for future references. > > > > I don't know about a Death Index for SC, but I did receive two photo-copies > of Death Certificates for both Augustus Brannon and Marion A. Dickerson. > At the time the charge was $8.00, since I live in North Carolina. > Oddly, however, they could find no Death Certificate for my grandfather Doyle > Victor Brannon who died in 1944, and is buried in Union, SC. So I know > that he is actually dead. Evidently someone read the name incorrectly, and > it is mis-filed. Perhaps the website below will be of some help. > > <A HREF="http://www.scgen.org/">SC GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY</A> > > Best............Vicki > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

After 50 years, the Dept of Health & Enviromental Control releases the death certificates to the SC State Archives. Anyone can get a copy and if you go out there, you can get it right then and there at 50 cents apiece if you do it yourself. I know because I have done that. St.Claire Sease sclaires@bellsouth.net Nancy Parr wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I've not ordered a death certificate from SC but have a few > questions. On another list, several people were talking about death > certificates and they said unless you can prove you are a sibling, parent or > child of the deceased, it is almost impossible to get any information. Has > anyone encountered this type of situation? > Most of my research has been in NC and Georgia and getting copies of > the death certificates from these two states was very simple; send in your > check and they send you a certified copy of the actual certificate. > Does anyone know if there is a Death Index available for SC? Many > of the larger libraries in Georgia have ones for that state. > Would appreciate any imput for future references. > Regards, > Nancy E Parr > -----Original Message----- > From: SGarr55321@aol.com <SGarr55321@aol.com> > To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com <SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:35 PM > Subject: [SCNEWBERRY] Newberry County Vital Records > > Has anyone requested records from Newberry County? > > I need to request death certificates for 2 of my great-grandfathers. They > both died after 1920. Is it possible to request a search for 10 years from > the county vital records department? > > Stacey C. Garrison > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

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I am very interested in the Hardy stuff...may not be my line of them, but i is worth a shot. My grandfather is Glenn Henry Hardy (he passed away just three days ago)... His parents were Grayson Hardy and Bessie Brooks Grayson's parents were David Seborn Hardy and Josephine Cheetham That is where I hit a wall... ANy help is sorely appreciated. http://scfireman.tripod.com/ancestors.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Subject: Calhoun marker stolen >CALHOUN FAMILY MARKER STOLEN FROM CEMETERY HILL > >The Clemson University Police Department asks for your help in locating a >stone monument removed during the weekend from Woodland Cemetery on >Clemson's campus. > >The monument marked the grave of James Edward Calhoun, a direct descendant >of Andrew Pickens Calhoun, the eldest son of John C. Calhoun. > >The official military marker commemorated James Edward Calhoun's service in >the Spanish American War. He died in 1937 and was buried in the Calhoun >family plot on what has come to be known as Cemetery Hill. > >The inscription on the marker reads: > >JAMES EDWARD CALHOUN >CAPTAIN >2nd ARMY CORPS >U.S. VOL. >SPANISH >AMERICAN WAR > >1878-1937 > > >Anyone with information on the whereabouts of this marker is asked to call the >Clemson University Police at 656-2222 >

I would like any available information on the family of James Young, a pioneer of Newberry Co. My data is at www.fdu.com/family and www.fdu.com/family/tree hanks Captain Al Franklin Florida Down Under, Inc 6735 S Lockwood Ridge Rd Sarasota, FL 34231 USA www.fdu.com al@fdu.com

In a message dated 5/7/01 11:04:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bjatkinson@juno.com writes: > Any relationship to the Thomas Gordon who had a land grant along the > Enoree River in late 1700s? > > On Sun, 6 May 2001 19:21:54 EDT Gesslr@aol.com writes: > > Would William Lyles be a brother of Ephraim and Arromanus? Uncle > > Abraham > > Gordon 1804-1880 married Cornelia Lyles daughter of Wm.Lyles and > > wife Jane > > of Newberry, Co.SC. > I have found in the book " Our Father's Fields" this information. In November of 1786 , a tract along the branch already known as Peters Creek, a southern tributary of the Tyger--- the land that was eventually to become the nucleus of the Hardy family plantation---passed from the hands of Thomas and Elizabeth Gordon into the ownership of Thomas and Phoebe Hardy. the original plot consisted of 204 acres, being part of a larger parcel granted by King George III of England to George Robinson on 13 October 1756, one year after Governor James Glens' treaty with the Cherokee Nation opened this part of the back-country to serious settlement. From 1759 to 1761, however, the Cherokee launched raids upon the valley in which pioneers of both sexes and all ages were killed; and a time of lawlessness then followed the new peace of 1761. It was a most unstable period. Robinson conveyed his land to John Mitchel Sr, whose children John, Jr. and Elizabeth Mitchel Campbell sold it in turn to the Gordons just after Christmas 1785. The Gordons, while only keeping this particular tract for less than a year, were permanent settlers across the Tyger from the Hardys; and one of them eventually married into the family. etc,etc, The information continues on, I only am posting for history sake and interest in Newberry families. I will be glad to do look ups for people for families in Newberry County. SC. I have one book on Newberry County which is really about the Hardy Family and how within their lives all the families in the area are woven. Please email me in private and list surnames, first names and year if possible. The families due spill over into the surrounding Counties but not extensively. I will be out of town this coming week for Mother's Day, so please hold your requests for look ups until the week of May 14th. I will be home that whole week and then gone again for a week. I will do my best to comply with your requests. Melinda

Thomas Gordon, b about 1735 was the son of John and Ruth Gordon. John Gordon,was received the land grant of 450 acres on the Enoree in 1754. John and Ruth are my sons sixth g grandparents. Sheila

Barry: I have also noticed this. My husband's grandmother was a Walters and I have researched this family back to Scotland. Both his gggg-grandfather and his gg-grandfather on this branch of his family were named Moses. Charlotte H. Herridge (Texas) Barry Fox wrote: > Being a descendent of Shadrack Waters/Walters, I have been researching that family for a few years. Since Shadrack is found first living in Orangeburg County in 1800 and his children later moved to Colleton County, I have focused my search in the SC low country. Recently while looking at early SC census records, I realized a pattern throughout the entire state that I think is repeated too often to be more than pure coincidence. Many early Waters/Walters men were named after unique Bible characters. The 1800-1820 census records list the following households (along with a number of Johns and Thomas' as well as other non-Biblical names): > > 1800 > Chesterfield Joshua Walters > Colleton Jacob Walter > Issac Walter > Jude Walter > Darlington Moses Waters > Elijah Waters > Marlboro Isaac Waters > Orangeburg Zadrack Walters > Williamsburg Jacob Walters > > 1810 > Colleton Isaac Walters > Darlington Moses Walters > Elijah Walters > Matthew Walters > Georgetown Zachariah Waters > Newberry Philemon Waters > Pendleton Job Walters > Williamsburg Jacob Walters > > 1820 > Beaufort Joshal Waters (possibly Joshua?) > Colleton Moses Walters > Darlington Moses Walters > Edgefield Philemon Waters > Georgetown Zacariah Waters > Marion Moses Waters > Orangeburg Shederick Waters > Spartanburg Jeremiah Waters > Moses Waters > Williamsburg Jacob Walters > > I find that the use of Moses so many time very interesting. > > Knowing that travel was limited at that time in history and people didn't typically stray too far from home, I really never thought seriously about looking at other areas of SC until last week when these names jumped out at me. Could all these be members of the same family? I would appreciate any thoughts or information other researchers of this family might have. I am in the process of compiling a more complete list of the census records; what I have so far can be found here: > > http://members.aol.com/btcmfox/waterswebpage.html > > If a family connection is found, I will be happy to share what information I have. > > Barry Fox > Greenville, SC > > ==== SCNEWBER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Being a descendent of Shadrack Waters/Walters, I have been researching that family for a few years. Since Shadrack is found first living in Orangeburg County in 1800 and his children later moved to Colleton County, I have focused my search in the SC low country. Recently while looking at early SC census records, I realized a pattern throughout the entire state that I think is repeated too often to be more than pure coincidence. Many early Waters/Walters men were named after unique Bible characters. The 1800-1820 census records list the following households (along with a number of Johns and Thomas' as well as other non-Biblical names): 1800 Chesterfield Joshua Walters Colleton Jacob Walter Issac Walter Jude Walter Darlington Moses Waters Elijah Waters Marlboro Isaac Waters Orangeburg Zadrack Walters Williamsburg Jacob Walters 1810 Colleton Isaac Walters Darlington Moses Walters Elijah Walters Matthew Walters Georgetown Zachariah Waters Newberry Philemon Waters Pendleton Job Walters Williamsburg Jacob Walters 1820 Beaufort Joshal Waters (possibly Joshua?) Colleton Moses Walters Darlington Moses Walters Edgefield Philemon Waters Georgetown Zacariah Waters Marion Moses Waters Orangeburg Shederick Waters Spartanburg Jeremiah Waters Moses Waters Williamsburg Jacob Walters I find that the use of Moses so many time very interesting. Knowing that travel was limited at that time in history and people didn't typically stray too far from home, I really never thought seriously about looking at other areas of SC until last week when these names jumped out at me. Could all these be members of the same family? I would appreciate any thoughts or information other researchers of this family might have. I am in the process of compiling a more complete list of the census records; what I have so far can be found here: http://members.aol.com/btcmfox/waterswebpage.html If a family connection is found, I will be happy to share what information I have. Barry Fox Greenville, SC

In a message dated 5/6/01 7:25:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Gesslr@aol.com writes: > From: Gesslr@aol.com > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com">SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com > > Would William Lyles be a brother of Ephraim and Arromanus? Uncle Abraham > Gordon 1804-1880 married Cornelia Lyles daughter of Wm.Lyles and wife Jane > of Newberry, Co.SC. > Mary Caldwell Gordon,sister to Abraham, married Cornelia Lyles' > brother,John > Edrington Lyles. Mary and John Lyles moved to Chickasaw County, MS. One > of > Mary and John's sons was named Ephraim Lyles,b 1828 SC and died in 1863, > from > wounds received in the Civil War. Thanks, Sheila > This is an Outline Chart showing the brothers and sisters or Arromanus Lyles. Descendants of EPHRAIM LYLES, Sr. 1 EPHRAIM LYLES, Sr. 1720 - 1764 Born: Abt. 1720 in Virginia Died: Abt. 1764 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (killed by Indians) ... +Ann Margaret Lyther 1725 - 1762 Born: Abt. 1725 in Virginia Died: Aft. 1762 in Fairfield Co., S.C. . 2 [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles 1748 - 1817 Born: 1748 in Craven Co. (now Fairfield) Died: September 02, 1817 in Fairfield Co., SC (buried near Lyles Ford ) ...... +Mary (Sallie) Means 1753 - 1772 Born: October 20, 1753 in Boston, MA Died: Abt. 1772 in Fairfield Co., S.C. . *2nd Wife of [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles: ...... +Rebecca Valentine 1755 - Born: Abt. 1755 in Fairfield Co., S.C. . *3rd Wife of [1] Arromanus (Col.) Lyles: ...... +Susannah Kennerly Fennel . 2 James (Col.) Lyles 1750 - 1780 Born: Abt. 1750 in Granville Co., NC Died: July 01, 1780 in Chester Co., SC . 2 William Lyles 1753 - 1805 Born: Abt. 1753 in Craven Co. (now Fairfield) Died: Abt. 1805 in (bur. 1806 in Fairfield Co., S.C.) ...... +Elizabeth Ward 1758 - 1810 Born: Abt. 1758 in Fairfield Co., S.C. Died: Bet. 1810 - 1820 in Fairfield Co., S.C. . 2 John (Maj.) Lyles 1755 - 1838 Born: June 15, 1755 in Ninety-Six Dist., S.C (now Newberry Co.) Died: Bet. 1838 - 1845 in Escambia Co., FL ...... +Sarah Rabb(?) . 2 Henry (Capt.) Lyles 1757 - 1795 Born: Abt. 1757 in Craven Co. (now Fairfield) Died: 1795 in Newberry Co., SC ...... +Nancy (Ann) 1763 - Born: Abt. 1763 in Craven Co., (now Fairfield) Died: in Newberry Co, SC . 2 [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. 1760 - 1820 Born: Abt. 1760 in Craven Dist., (Fairfield Co.) SC Died: Abt. 1820 in Newberry Co., SC ...... +Susannah Ederington 1763 - 1801 Born: Abt. 1763 in Fairfield (or Newberry) Co., SC Died: Bef. 1801 in Newberry Co., SC . *2nd Wife of [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR.: ...... +ELIZABETH ANDERSON 1765 - Born: Bet. 1765 - 1770 in Newberry Co., SC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following is my data on Maj. Ephraim Lyles, Jr., whose first wife was Susannah Ederington, and second was Elizabeth Anderson.: Descendants of EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. 1 [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR. 1760 - 1820 Born: Abt. 1760 in Craven Dist., (Fairfield Co.) SC Died: Abt. 1820 in Newberry Co., SC ... +Susannah Ederington 1763 - 1801 Born: Abt. 1763 in Newberry Co., SC Died: Bef. 1801 in Newberry Co., SC . 2 [1] Elizabeth Carolina Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 ...... +James Padgett . *2nd Husband of [1] Elizabeth Carolina Lyles: ...... +David Anderson . 2 James E. Lyles 1784 - 1842 Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 Died: 1842 ...... +Celia . 2 Mary Ann Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 in Newberry Co., SC ...... +Russell Vaughan . 2 Robert Lyles 1784 - 1847 Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 Died: 1847 in Newberry Co., SC ...... +Jane . 2 Susannah Lyles 1784 - Born: Bet. 1784 - 1800 ...... +Robert R. Wilson . 2 Nancy Lyles 1791 - Born: 1791 ...... +George Red . 2 William E. Lyles 1796 - Born: 1796 . 2 John Ederington Lyles 1798 - Born: 1798 *2nd Wife of [2] EPHRAIM (MAJOR) LYLES, JR.: ... +ELIZABETH ANDERSON 1765 - Born: Bet. 1765 - 1770 in Newberry Co., SC . 2 MILLIE (PERMELIA) LYLES 1805 - 1869 Born: Abt. 1805 in Newberry Co., S.C. Died: May 1869 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (bur. at old Home Place) ...... +BENJAMIN DICKERSON 1802 - 1880 Born: Abt. 1802 in Fairfield Co., S.C. Died: Bef. 1880 in Fairfield Co., S.C. (bur. at old Home Place) . 2 Narcissa C. Lyles 1810 - Born: Bet. 1810 - 1820 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If I can help you further, please let me know. Best........Victoria Pickrell