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    1. [SCMARION-L] Re: SCMARION-D Digest V01 #61
    2. << Also, the second child of Edmund and Delilah Price was Mary and she m about 1815 to John G. Lupo (1797-1896) so Labon Lupo. Labon Lupo migrated into SC from Robeson Co, NC with children William, John G., and Maranda Caroline. Maranda Caroline Lupo m James S. Price. >> I am somewhat confused. Would love to know where this information originated, especially the part about these three being children of Laban Lupo. (I presume Laban Senior is meant in the quote, as Lupo researchers state that Laban Lupo Junior moved out of the area.) I have heard someone else state that Laban Lupo (Senior) came to Marion District, but I have never found any record of him here. If someone has, it would be very nice to have the citation posted to the list. It's my understanding that this statement was based largely on some distant descendant of Laban Lupo Junior saying their grandpappy was born in South Carolina, and from that someone presumed Marion District. But some of those Robeson Lupos have been found in Richland or Lexington County, SC, along with some of the Prices, as I have been told by long time Lupo researchers whose work I respect. Anyone interested can find much, much more about the Lupo family on Matt Lupo's website: http://www.lupo.org/ Also, to my knowledge, it has never been proven that Maranda Caroline, wife of James S. Price, was in fact a Lupo. All I've ever heard was a guess (albeit an intelligent one). Has proof been found? And now we have proof of her father? Given Maranda Caroline Price's age of 24 in the 1850 census, and the likelihood that Laban Lupo Senior apparently died before the 1810 census, that seems highly unlikely to me. As for William Lupo, if the William Lupo who was born about 1780-1790 in Virginia, came to Marion/Dillon from Robeson with his first wife about 1810, and died here in 1848 is being referred to - I'm sorry I just don't get it. Laban is certainly a possibility for the father of this William, but how do we know he wasn't a younger brother of Laban? or nephew or cousin? If some other William Lupo is meant, then he must have gone west or died young, for there is no record of any William Lupo in Marion District other than the one who came here about 1810, and from whom most, if not all, of the Dillon County Lupos descend. William Lupo of Marion District was born about 1780-1790 per census records. I'm afraid I don't have a clue as to identity of John G. Lupo, who is quoted as being born in 1797. Maranda Caroline, wife of James S. Price, was born about 1826 per census records. How does it follow that those three, born some 40 or so years apart, were all children of Laban Lupo? who was last seen in the 1800 Robeson census, and whose apparent widow, Beggy Lupo, was listed in her own household in Robeson in 1810? By 1820 there were no Lupos found in the Robeson census. If I were satisfied that Maranda Caroline Price was born a Lupo; and if I were inclined to guess at her father, I would immediately light on William Lupo. William had young females in his household in early census records whose ages fit not only Maranda Caroline, but also the ages of Naomi, wife of William Ford, and Polly, wife of Nelson Ford. (William Lupo had two wives and numerous children.) Plus, William Lupo was the only Lupo found in the records in what became Dillon County. Plus, the lands of William Lupo were between present day Lake View and Nichols, on or near lower Ashpole Swamp, and not far from the Price lands on lower Ashpole, as well as the later lands of William and Nelson Ford, and James S. Price. Jo Church Dickerson

    07/23/2001 12:32:30
    1. Re: [SCMARION-L] Re: SCMARION-D Digest V01 #61
    2. Al Munden
    3. Hi Jo, My theory about Maranda is that she is the daughter of Phillip Luper (Lupo) found in the 1850 census. I don't know why she would have been listed with that family unless she was visiting and there was a slip up by the census taker. She's listed as Caroline and is the right age (more or less) to be the one married to James Price. I suspect he is a brother of Laban and migrated to SC about the same time. It's hard to be sure of anything but we do like to theorize with no solid evidence available. I think Phillip Lupo is in Lou Pero's genealogy listing birth 1800 which agrees with Phillip Luper in 1805 (age 50). There were 9 children listed from 28-3, the younger ones may be grandchildren ?? What do you think ??????? Al Munden (Price/Spivey connections in Marion/Robeson area) ----- Original Message ----- From: <JoChurchD@aol.com> To: <SCMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: [SCMARION-L] Re: SCMARION-D Digest V01 #61 > << Also, the second child of Edmund and Delilah Price was Mary and she m > about 1815 to John G. Lupo (1797-1896) so Labon Lupo. Labon Lupo migrated > into SC from Robeson Co, NC with children William, John G., and Maranda > Caroline. Maranda Caroline Lupo m James S. Price. >> > > > I am somewhat confused. > > Would love to know where this information originated, especially the part > about these three being children of Laban Lupo. (I presume Laban Senior is > meant in the quote, as Lupo researchers state that Laban Lupo Junior moved > out of the area.) > > I have heard someone else state that Laban Lupo (Senior) came to Marion > District, but I have never found any record of him here. If someone has, it > would be very nice to have the citation posted to the list. > > It's my understanding that this statement was based largely on some distant > descendant of Laban Lupo Junior saying their grandpappy was born in South > Carolina, and from that someone presumed Marion District. But some of those > Robeson Lupos have been found in Richland or Lexington County, SC, along with > some of the Prices, as I have been told by long time Lupo researchers whose > work I respect. > > Anyone interested can find much, much more about the Lupo family on Matt > Lupo's website: http://www.lupo.org/ > > Also, to my knowledge, it has never been proven that Maranda Caroline, wife > of James S. Price, was in fact a Lupo. All I've ever heard was a guess > (albeit an intelligent one). Has proof been found? And now we have proof of > her father? Given Maranda Caroline Price's age of 24 in the 1850 census, and > the likelihood that Laban Lupo Senior apparently died before the 1810 census, > that seems highly unlikely to me. > > As for William Lupo, if the William Lupo who was born about 1780-1790 in > Virginia, came to Marion/Dillon from Robeson with his first wife about 1810, > and died here in 1848 is being referred to - I'm sorry I just don't get it. > Laban is certainly a possibility for the father of this William, but how do > we know he wasn't a younger brother of Laban? or nephew or cousin? If some > other William Lupo is meant, then he must have gone west or died young, for > there is no record of any William Lupo in Marion District other than the one > who came here about 1810, and from whom most, if not all, of the Dillon > County Lupos descend. > > William Lupo of Marion District was born about 1780-1790 per census records. > I'm afraid I don't have a clue as to identity of John G. Lupo, who is quoted > as being born in 1797. Maranda Caroline, wife of James S. Price, was born > about 1826 per census records. How does it follow that those three, born > some 40 or so years apart, were all children of Laban Lupo? who was last seen > in the 1800 Robeson census, and whose apparent widow, Beggy Lupo, was listed > in her own household in Robeson in 1810? By 1820 there were no Lupos found > in the Robeson census. > > If I were satisfied that Maranda Caroline Price was born a Lupo; and if I > were inclined to guess at her father, I would immediately light on William > Lupo. William had young females in his household in early census records > whose ages fit not only Maranda Caroline, but also the ages of Naomi, wife of > William Ford, and Polly, wife of Nelson Ford. (William Lupo had two wives and > numerous children.) Plus, William Lupo was the only Lupo found in the records > in what became Dillon County. Plus, the lands of William Lupo were between > present day Lake View and Nichols, on or near lower Ashpole Swamp, and not > far from the Price lands on lower Ashpole, as well as the later lands of > William and Nelson Ford, and James S. Price. > > Jo Church Dickerson > > > ==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== > Marion County Listmember sites: > 1. Marty Grant http://www.martygrant.com > 2. Herbert Turner CHRISTMAS Home Page - http://members.aol.com/herbnet/christmas/webintro.html > 3. Debbie Kerner - Clan Carmichael USA http://home.triad.rr.com/clancarmichael > >

    07/24/2001 03:44:33