Dear Donali, Joanne, Glenn, and others: Donali, I think the information to which I referred on the Methodist churches of 1842 was sent to me some years ago by the late Herbert Hucks who was archivist at Wofford College. I am sure Wofford still has the archives, and I believe there is a related website which may become more and more helpful over time as they add more. Joanne, I think, but might be wrong, that Biblical Recorder and Southern Watchman may be a long title for the same publication. There is a searchable index through the website for Baptist archives at Wake Forest, and a person named Julia Bradford, who works at the archives, has been very helpful to me. Most of the info, as I understand it, is about NC, although the Dwight Hays circuit in SC was in this publication. The website is http://www.wfu.edu/Library/baptist/ If you click on Biblical Recorder it takes you to a page with writing in a yellow box at the right of the screen. At the bottom of that is a way to click so that you can search the index for different years. I was so excited to find, a little while back, that the Evan Pugh diary mentions his trip to marry Martha Harper to Jesse Coxe--in Marlboro County. Widow Alice Harper (my ggg grandmother), mother of Martha, lived in that section of Marlboro over toward old Marion County. She had property on the Great Pee Dee River and was a neighbor of Baron Poellnitz, if you know where he lived. (I think there is an historical marker about him on Highway 38.) If there is any reference in the volume on Anglican churches to one at Sandy Bluff, I would love to know. Thanks. Larry
Larry, One of the sources that Mrs. Linder mentions in her book on ST. David's Parish is the Ledger book of Eli /Ely Kershaw. It is stored at the SC Historical Society in Charleston. There is no telling how many other records that might be there that would shine some light on our area. Eli Kershaw died ca. 1780 on one of those British ships in Charleston as a prisoner. But before that, he was an early merchant in Cheraw. Another source she quotes is by Charles Woodmason, "The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution: The Journal and Other Writings of Charles Woodmason, Anglican Itinerant" ed. Richard J. Hooker (Chapel Hill; Univ. of N.C. 1953), pp. xxvii, 5,13.. Also, Register Book of Prince Frederick Winjay, pp 53, 112,; John Fordyce to SPG, Nov. 4, 1745, , SC Dept. of A. & History, and "The Journal and Letters of Francis Asbury "(Nashville, TN, Abingdon Press, 1958, Elmer T. Clark, ed. This is something I have to take one at a time. And by the way, I have found another Bundy researcher to help with the work. We have since found our great-grandfather, John Albert Bundy ,1837-1905, farming in Marion Co.. His son, Wm. C. was born there in 1877. I do not know what area he farmed in. His wife was Elizabeth Little, and her brother was a Methodist preacher, John R. Little. He may have been preaching in Marion too. He married a woman named Ella Berry. Do not know anything about her. I will check with the college archives. I think the Bradford lady is no longer with the school. I have been in contact with her before. Joanne
>Joanne, There are so many interesting things in your message, Joanne. I don't know anything about the book of Eli/Ely Kershaw and would love to know more if you or others learn anything which pertains to our area of the state. I have read a fair portion of the book by Woodmason. It certainly gives a different perspective on the area and, I think, is strongly flavored by his personality. As you know, it is not altogether complimentary of the early settlers. I do recall that he mentions preaching at Cheraw. I had briefly contemplated why he might not have mentioned Sandy Bluff by name and wondered if it might be because there was a resident minister in the form of Rev. Turbeville and, therefore, no need for a visiting itinerant. Of course, I was just speculating. I was very excited to see a few years back that (Bishop) Francis Asbury had visited Marlboro and Marion not so long after the first South Carolina Conference of the Methodists (1785). From his journal we know that he visited Marlboro and Darlington Counties in 1788. He returned in 1789, but this time his route took him, according to the editors of his journal text, "from Beauty Spot near Bennettsville....southward along the route of the present Blenheim and Brownsville in Marlboro County and Latta in Dillon County, approximating Highways 38 and 917". On his 1790 visit he followed the same route taken in 1789. On Monday, February 1, 1790--between being in Marlboro County and later near Marion, according to Asbury's journal, "Brother Whatcoat preached AT THE GROVE (my caps); John Ellis and myself spoke after him, and there were gracious signs of tenderness among the people. An elderly Baptist preacher attended, whose heart the Lord touched, and he acknowledged the power of the Most High to be present". I don't know all the locations along that road; however, since I grew up going to Bethesda church in Oak Grove, I could not help but wonder if "at the Grove" referred to Oak Grove. It certainly was along the route. John R. Little's daughter, Fannie Belle, married my grandfather Jones's brother Jake. They lived in Marlboro County and still have descendants there. One of this is a Munnerlyn (Ron, I think) who is an officer, I believe, with the Historical Society. John R. Little's wife was from the Berry family of old Marion County. I think her father was Bright Berry--or at least she is from the Bright Berry line. I had a note from Julia Bradford at Wake Forest just yesterday. Maybe she was away but back now. Thanks. Larry Larry, > >One of the sources that Mrs. Linder mentions in her book on ST. David's >Parish is the Ledger book of Eli /Ely Kershaw. It is stored at the SC >Historical Society in Charleston. There is no telling how many other >records that might be there that would shine some light on our area. Eli >Kershaw died ca. 1780 on one of those British ships in Charleston as a >prisoner. But before that, he was an early merchant in Cheraw. Another >source she quotes is by Charles Woodmason, "The Carolina Backcountry on the >Eve of the Revolution: The Journal and Other Writings of Charles Woodmason, >Anglican Itinerant" ed. Richard J. Hooker (Chapel Hill; Univ. of N.C. 1953), >pp. xxvii, 5,13.. Also, Register Book of Prince Frederick Winjay, pp 53, >112,; John Fordyce to SPG, Nov. 4, 1745, , SC Dept. of A. & History, and >"The Journal and Letters of Francis Asbury "(Nashville, TN, Abingdon Press, >1958, Elmer T. Clark, ed. This is something I have to take one at a time. > >And by the way, I have found another Bundy researcher to help with the work. >We have since found our great-grandfather, John Albert Bundy ,1837-1905, >farming in Marion Co.. His son, Wm. C. was born there in 1877. I do not >know what area he farmed in. His wife was Elizabeth Little, and her brother >was a Methodist preacher, John R. Little. He may have been preaching in >Marion too. He married a woman named Ella Berry. Do not know anything >about her. > >I will check with the college archives. I think the Bradford lady is no >longer with the school. I have been in contact with her before. > >Joanne > > > > >==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== >SCGenWeb Main Page >Links to counties and Special Projects >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/
Larry, I forgot to check Dr. Linder's new book the other day on whether there was any reference to an Anglican church at Sandy Point. There was not. The only Anglican church that would have represented Marion and Dillon was Prince Federick. And this book is about COLONIAL Anglican churches. The Frince Frederick church was located just north of Georgetown. The book is wonderful. It has maps showing the different Colonial parishes of South Carolina and several good pictures done in the eighteenth century of these early churches. Apparently, the early church minutes are available somewhere. I did not read that far, but the author mentions the church dimensions are written in the early records. Joanne H.
>Joanne, thanks so much for checking on Sandy Bluff. Last summer I went to Georgetown and visited the old Anglican church there. I had the mistaken impression that Prince Frederick was in Georgetown and there are some different family members who are supposed to been baptized or married there, but the folks in Georgetown told me that that church was at least a little way out of town, and at that moment I was with folks I didn't think I should drag on a wild goose chase. I think I remember that Jane Ford was baptized there in 1742 and something like the same day she married John Smith. They were parents of my ancestor, Anne Smith Berry, who was born ca. 1743. I guess the building is not there now (?). Theoretically, the church at Sandy Bluff was, I believe, supposed to be Anglican and colonial too, I believe, but I have seen so little written about it. Maybe the Gregg reference is the only one I can recall. If it lasted very long, it seems it would be a center of considerable influence since it would have saved folks lots of trouble locating an Anglican clergyman to conduct business, but I am guessing that it might not have been there too long. In any case, I appreciate your checking. Best wishes. Larry Larry, >I forgot to check Dr. Linder's new book the other day on whether there was >any reference to an Anglican church at Sandy Point. There was not. The >only Anglican church that would have represented Marion and Dillon was >Prince Federick. And this book is about COLONIAL Anglican churches. The >Frince Frederick church was located just north of Georgetown. The book is >wonderful. It has maps showing the different Colonial parishes of South >Carolina and several good pictures done in the eighteenth century of these >early churches. Apparently, the early church minutes are available >somewhere. I did not read that far, but the author mentions the church >dimensions are written in the early records. > >Joanne H. > > >==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== >Tombstone Inscription Project - South Carolina >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/s-car.html