Dear List, Many thanks to all that sent sites on birthdate calculations. Here are some that I got privately. http://searchforancestors.com/utility/birthday.html http://www.obitcentral.com/calc.htm This one is ornery and many times it does not connect> http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html Again Thanks! Peggy Price

Sorry List, This was supposed to go to Windy. One day I will learn.... Helen

Helen, I think you sent this to me by mistake. Barbara

The only Gale listed was Lurana Gale. Helen

Dear List, Does anyone know of a site on the Internet that will calculate a birthday if you plug in the date of death then the years, months, and days old the person was at death. The was such a site, but now it is gone. Thanks in advance! Peggy Price

Try this one. Mildred http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html I;ve had trouble with it timing out this a.m.-keep trying.

Helen could you look up Samuel Gale in the Marion 1820 Census for me? Thank you in advance, Windy

I am planning on visiting the Marion and Dillon area next month and want to see the Old McDuffie Cemetery. My ggg grandparents used to live on land near there and my ggg grandmother is buried there along with some uncles and aunts. They were the Campbell's, McEachern's, Stafford's, McCallum's, Bowie's, Munro or Monroe's and Carmichael's. The Stafford's built Lone Home and the old Campbell place may still be there built by Duncan Campbell. Can anyone tell me if I can see the old homes and especially the cemetery? Thanks, Bob Campbell Birmingham, AL

Victoria, The link to the Lewis Cemetery, northeast of Mullins does not work. Peggy Price

Hi, Tony, I think there could be a connection between our families. Could your Edward King be a descendant of my Edward King from the same area in South Carolina? I am looking for my great-grandparents, Eddie King (maybe George Edward King, born 1869) and his first wife Margaret (or Marguerite) (maiden name unknown) King (maybe Margarett Elizabeth Turnage King, born 1872). They were from somewhere along the NC/SC line, and I think maybe the Chesterfield County, Marlboro County, Darlington County, SC area. Eddie King may have married again after the death of his first wife to second wife Alma Cauthin Kelly, and Eddie and Alma had about a dozen children. Eddie and Margaret had three children: Lonnie O. King (1890-1931), my paternal grandmother Nettie King Neely Riley (1896-1958), and another daughter (name unknown) (probably Pauline King, born 1894) who married a Mr. Bailey. Lonnie was the father of Rembert Lonzo King and Pauline King (married name unknown) by his first wife, Lizzie Huggins, of the Marion County, Dillon County, SC area, and Helen Chappell King Greene by his second wife, Mary Margaret Chappell King. Lonnie died in Saint Paul's, Robeson County, NC, and is buried in Raeford, Hoke County, NC. His sister Nettie (my paternal grandmother) married Joseph Bowden Neely, Sr. from Horry County, SC, and they moved to Savannah, Chatham County, Georgia where all their children and grandchildren were born. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. I hope you will check out further information below at our genealogy web site. Thanks, Sharlotte Neely Donnelly http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/o/n/Sharlotte--N-Donnelly DaMcGncsu@aol.com wrote: > Greetings List. > This is my first post and I am trying to do some research on my wife’s > family. I am searching for information on a Edward L. King who was born > about 1885. > We know he was in the Bennettsville, Marlboro Co., South Carolina area around > 1924 and 1925 and at that time was married to a "Lorene". While it could be > total rumor, we have heard that “he went back to Tennessee”, which could > indicate that he was from Tennessee originally, but we don’t know. Looking > for any leads you might be able to help us with. > > Tony McGinnis > Raleigh, NC > DaMcGncsu@aol.com > > ==== KING Mailing List ==== > KING list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/KING.htm

The State (Columbia): Saturday, August 18, 2001 Herbert Small LATTA -- Memorial services for Herbert Small, 72, will be held at 3 p.m. today at Kannaday's Funeral Home. Visitation is from 2-3 p.m. today at the funeral home. Memorials may be made to the Latta Rescue Squad, P.O. Box 201, Latta, SC. Mr. Small died August 16, 2001. Born in Horry County, he was the son of the late E. H. and Eppie Williamson Small. He was a member of Latta Baptist Church. He retired from the furniture business and from Dillon County Waste Management. Surviving are daughter, Sherry Brumble of Latta; five sisters; grandson, Kyle Brumble.

The State (Columbia): Tuesday, August 21, 2001 Minnie Walker MULLINS (--) Services for Minnie Sawyer Walker, 72, will be held at 4:30 p.m. today at Richardson Funeral Home Chapel, Marion, with burial in Reedy Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. Mrs. Walker, widow of the late Willie Walker, died Sunday in McLeod Regional Medical Center. Born in Marion Co., she was a daughter of the late Lonnie Cleveland Sawyer and Nina Turner Sawyer. Surviving are her daughter, Betty Joe McBride; brothers, Freddy Sawyer, Larry Sawyer; sisters, Bertha Harrelson, Mary Garris, Bobbie Britt, Doris Coleman, JoAnne Black, Alice Hamilton.

The State (Columbia): Tuesday, August 21, 2001 Archie Rogers II FORK -- Services for Archie Boyd "Dick" Rogers II will be held 2 p.m. Wednesday at Fork Baptist Church with burial in the church cemetery directed by Cooper Funeral Home. Visitation will be held 7-9 this evening in the funeral home. Mr. Rogers, 83, died Monday, August 20, 2001 at his residence after an illness. Born in Dillon County, March 30, 1918, he was the son of the late Archie Rogers and Carrie Edwards Rogers. He was a retired merchant, member of Fork Baptist Church and was a U.S. Army Veteran of World War II. Surviving are his wife, Charlotte Cottingham Rogers of Fork; daughter, Janice Rogers Adams of Hamer; sons, Steven Rogers of Dillon, Bill Rogers of West Columbia, and Archie Rogers Jr. of Fork; sisters, Jimmie Rogers of Lake View and Catherine Calhoun of Fork; brothers, Jerry Rogers of Fork and Reuben Rogers of Lake View; seven grandchildren. Mr. Rogers was preceded in death by his brothers, Pete Rogers and Bill Rogers.

Sometimes a little motivation works wonders!

I wish I could age like Mary Middleton! ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hbmoody@aol.com> To: <SCMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: [SCMARION-L] Middleton | Carole asked me to look up Middletons in the census books. This is what I | found. | 1830 - none | 1840 - none | 1850 - no township supplied, Mary Middleton age 45 , Pickney, age 10 male. | 1860 - Marion County Court House, Mary Middleton age 46, occ. seamstress. | James, male, farm labor | 1870 -213/ James E Middleton, age 24 occ. Keeper of bridge | Mary, age 24 | Julia, age3 | James S age 2 | Mary Middleton age 50 | 1880 - 54/James E Middleton, age 35, grocer | Anna T. wife, age 28, keeps house | Julia A, daughter, age 12, at school | Sidney A, son, age 10, at school | 55/ Mary J. Herring age 55 mother in law. | 1880, 155/ Mary Middleton, age 60/ single/ housekeeping. | | I found Mary and James in the Misc School records. | Page 89 | Commissioners of free schools to D. S. Henry for tuition of the following | students. School commened (sic) at Marion C.H. | 15 April 1857, closed 10 Sept. 1957 (should be 1857) | Marian District: | Parent - Mary Middleton children - Jas. Middleton. | If anyone want copies of these pages I can get them. The library charges 25 | cents per copy. | Helen | | | ==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== | Take a look to see what documents are in the SCGenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/scfiles.htm | Search the SCGenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm (Select SC) | | |

Thirty years ago, we moved into a new development in Greenville with what apparently was a family burial ground on the lot next to ours. It did not have tombstones, just rocks with names and initials carved on them. A lady from the Historical Society got in touch with me and told me that if they ever tried to build on the lot to contact them immediately. They had an injunction to make the contractor move the graves before he built on the land. I understand that, some years later, they did move the graves before they built on it. I also heard that most of the walls in the house cracked within a year or so! It sounds like something can be done legally to prevent destroying cemetaries. I hope it is so because too much of our history has already been destroyed. Betty Jo Stewart

First of all, there is no law to stop anyone in SC from selling a cemetery right along with the land it sits on. There is a law that makes it a felony to disturb or vandalize or destroy a cemetery, but I have never heard of it being enforced. However, this is NOT what's happening with the "Ray" Cemetery as recently posted to the Dillon Cemetery Webpage. I just sent a message to Victoria with this information, but I see it has already become a subject of concern on the list. So here is the information I just sent to Victoria: This morning I called Lloyd Meekins & Sons Realty & Auction Company of Dillon, the company that owns the land on Joan Road near May Hilltop, designated as the "Ray" Cemetery on the Dillon Cemetery Webpage. I spoke to Mr. Roger Meekins, a most helpful young man. According to Mr. Meekins, the cemetery land is NOT for sale, not for mobile home lots or anything else. It has been designated as "cemetery lands" on the Dillon County Tax Map - about 1/4 acre, an area much larger than the little cemetery itself. I know this is not an easy out for Meekins, as I initially led him to believe I wished to purchase the cemetery lot, and he immediately informed me that it was NOT for sale. Actually, this cemetery looks much as it has looked for the past 17 years, since I moved back home. I stopped over there this morning. The lot Meekins laid out for the cemetery is much larger than would have been required, and the stones do not appear to have been disturbed in any new, significant fashion at all. That is not to say it's not overgrown and some stones have not fallen over. But the posting makes it sound much, much worse than this particular situation warrants, in my opinion. Would that timber companies and farmers had enough concern about old cemeteries to designate them all as cemetery lands in the tax office, rather than destroying them. It is a shame that this old farm was busted up and sold for lots. But so it goes, nothing to be done about that. But the lots are not tiny, the trailers and homes that have been built around there are comely, and for the most part attractive and well kept. The people who have purchased the lots do not seem to be riff-raff. And when I spoke to the people in the mobile home across the road from the cemetery, they seemed genuinely concerned about it's fate. I suggested to Mr. Meekins that since they now own the cemetery, it would be a great public relations act in the local community, and in the genealogical community, if they cleaned it up. He didn't seem enthralled at the prospect, but I drilled him with the idea. We'll see if it bears any fruit. :-) Jo Church Dickerson

Carole asked me to look up Middletons in the census books. This is what I found. 1830 - none 1840 - none 1850 - no township supplied, Mary Middleton age 45 , Pickney, age 10 male. 1860 - Marion County Court House, Mary Middleton age 46, occ. seamstress. James, male, farm labor 1870 -213/ James E Middleton, age 24 occ. Keeper of bridge Mary, age 24 Julia, age3 James S age 2 Mary Middleton age 50 1880 - 54/James E Middleton, age 35, grocer Anna T. wife, age 28, keeps house Julia A, daughter, age 12, at school Sidney A, son, age 10, at school 55/ Mary J. Herring age 55 mother in law. 1880, 155/ Mary Middleton, age 60/ single/ housekeeping. I found Mary and James in the Misc School records. Page 89 Commissioners of free schools to D. S. Henry for tuition of the following students. School commened (sic) at Marion C.H. 15 April 1857, closed 10 Sept. 1957 (should be 1857) Marian District: Parent - Mary Middleton children - Jas. Middleton. If anyone want copies of these pages I can get them. The library charges 25 cents per copy. Helen

I agree with that question. How can one sell a cemetery? Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <PPrice3993@aol.com> To: <SCMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: [SCMARION-L] Selling Cemeteries > Hi Victoria, > This is my question also! How can anyone sell a cemetery????? > Peggy Price > > << Two of the cemeteries the ladies surveyed are now > marked off for lot sales (mobile homes) and these photographs > may be all that exists in the near future. [NOTE for David Jackson-- > one of these cemeteries is the Hamilton Cemetery. :( ] >> > > > ==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== > To search the SCMARION-L Archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Enter SCMARION > >

Hi Victoria, This is my question also! How can anyone sell a cemetery????? Peggy Price << Two of the cemeteries the ladies surveyed are now marked off for lot sales (mobile homes) and these photographs may be all that exists in the near future. [NOTE for David Jackson-- one of these cemeteries is the Hamilton Cemetery. :( ] >>