Helen: I think our really seriously thinking about names will help us. I like the name Kada, that is pretty. Wiley is a bit unusual, but guess I always think about Wiley Post when I hear that name. Frances is close to Francine.... I have been called Frances quite a bit, and I always make the correction for I, personally, like Francine better. I knew a girl once named Francile. My aunt gave me the name Francine for a friend of hers. My Mom read a book about an indian princess named Zenoma. I have also known a Zenobia. My grandchildren have names of today mostly. I guess the most unusual is Kelsey Francine. Then there is Haley Michele, Aaron Thomas, Jeffery Bernard (Bernard is demanded from his fathers side..... the oldest male has to have the name, and if the oldest is a girl it has to be Bernadette.... I'm glad they had a boy. My other two grandsons have very plain names, Brian Thomas and Erik Harold. The Thomas' are for my husband and their other grandpaws, the Harold for a great uncle. You know, the study of names could be very interesting. Wonder why you can't reach Victoria! Maybe she is busy moving out of the Washington area! I wouldn't blame her if she did! She said she really had a hard time concentrating for several days after all the plane hit the Pentagon. And the eerie quietness of no planes overhead was scary. That seemed strange here for we were in the outer pattern for landing at DFW and all of a sudden it was so quiet and has stayed pretty much that way. I think they made them move their landing pattern for they go further south now. Have a good day! Love, Francine ----- Original Message ----- From: "HELEN LANE CARMICHAEL" <lanehelendiane@worldnet.att.net> To: <SCMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: [SCMARION-L] Allen > CONWAY > Valley B. Allen > Valley Bert Allen, 63, of the Forestbrook community, died Thursday, Oct. 25, 2001, at Sea Coast Medical Center. > He was born in Horry County, a son of the late Valley Bert and Ora Lee Allen Allen. > He was an Army veteran and worked for the Pantry Stores. > Survivors include two brothers, J.B. Ray of Thomasville, N.C., and L.C. Allen of Marion; and his stepfather, James B. Ray Sr. of Thomasville. > A graveside service will be at 5 p.m. today at Devotion Gardens in Marion. The Rev. Kirk Lawton will officiate. > Goldfinch Funeral Home, Conway Chapel is in charge. > > > > ==== SCMARION Mailing List ==== > Take a look to see what documents are in the SCGenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/scfiles.htm > Search the SCGenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm (Select SC) >

CONWAY Valley B. Allen Valley Bert Allen, 63, of the Forestbrook community, died Thursday, Oct. 25, 2001, at Sea Coast Medical Center. He was born in Horry County, a son of the late Valley Bert and Ora Lee Allen Allen. He was an Army veteran and worked for the Pantry Stores. Survivors include two brothers, J.B. Ray of Thomasville, N.C., and L.C. Allen of Marion; and his stepfather, James B. Ray Sr. of Thomasville. A graveside service will be at 5 p.m. today at Devotion Gardens in Marion. The Rev. Kirk Lawton will officiate. Goldfinch Funeral Home, Conway Chapel is in charge.

Victoria, I have been trying to email you to send you some more census pages and they are bouncing. Contact me. Helen

Eva Oxner MULLINS -- Services for Eva Lee Oxner, 82, will be at 11 a.m. today at Meares Funeral Home Chapel with entombment in Palmetto Memorial Gardens Mausoleum. Mrs. Oxner died Thursday. Born in Horry Co., she was a daughter of the late William and Frances Stephens Harrelson. He was a member of Mullins First Baptist Church and Palmetto #2 Order of the Eastern Star. Surviving are her sister, Brookie Conner; granddaughter, Kimberly Cantrell; nieces and nephews. She was predeceased by her first husband, Jeff Fowler, her second husband, Asa Oxner; and by a son, David Fowler.

Elizabeth Norton BENNETTSVILLE -- Services for Elizabeth Carver Norton, 82, will be held at 3 p.m. Sunday at Salem Baptist Church with burial in the church cemetery. Visitation is 7-9 this evening at Whitner-Evans Funeral Home. Mrs. Norton died Thursday. Born in Marlboro Co., she was a daughter of the late Will and Maggie Huggins Carver. She was a member of Salem Baptist Church and the Marlboro County Council on Aging. Surviving are sons, Curtis, Richard Norton; daughters, Joyce Hughey, Lois McCall, Lillian Freeman, Judy Harpe, Peggy Clark, Pauline Evans.

James Jackson MARION -- Services for James R. "Bob" Jackson, 71, will be held at 3 p.m. Sunday at the Chapel of Richardson Funeral Home with burial in Shiloh United Methodist Church Cemetery. The family will receive friends from 6-8 this evening at Richardson Funeral Home. Memorials may be made to Shiloh United Methodist Church, 3903 West Hwy. 76, Marion SC 29571 or Middle Tyger Community Center, 84 Groce Road, Lyman SC 29365. Mr. Jackson died Friday, October 26, 2001 at Marion County Medical Center after an illness. Born in Bennettsville, he was a son of Margaret McDaniel Jackson and the late James Allan Jackson. Mr. Jackson had retired as a technician from BellSouth Telephone Co. He was a member of Shiloh United Methodist Church and a veteran of the Armed Forces. Surviving are his wife, Pearl R. Jackson of the home; son, Frankie McDaniel of Mullins; daughters, Jill Jackson Smith of Duncan, Jennifer Jackson McBryde of Florence, Janet Jackson Wallace of Marion; brothers, David R. Jackson and William "Bill" A. Jackson, both of Bennettsville; sister, Doris Jackson Wagner of Bennettsville; eight grandchildren. He was predeceased by brother, Hamer L. Jackson and sisters, Margaret Jackson Kirkley and Maxine Jackson Baldwin.

Delia Fowler LORIS -- Graveside services for Delia L. Suggs Fowler, 92, will be held at 4 p.m. today in Mt. Zion Cemetery directed by Hardwick Funeral Home. Mrs. Fowler, widow of Wofford George Fowler Sr., died Friday in Conway Nursing Center. Born in Horry Co., she was a daughter of the late William Henry Suggs and Annie Eliza Elizabeth Harrelson. She was a member of Mt. Zion Baptist Church. Surviving are her son, W.G. Fowler Jr. of Loris; daughter, Doris Jones of N. Myrtle Beach; sisters, Lessie Bell of Conway, Jennie Harrelson of Loris; five grandchildren; six great grandchildren.

Myrtle Clark BENNETTSVILLE -- Services for Myrtle Parker Meggs Clark, 84, will be held at 3 p.m. today at Whitner-Evans Funeral Home with burial in Brownsville Baptist Church Cemetery. Mrs. Clark died Friday. Born in Blenheim, she was a daughter of the late Henry Murry and Margett Garner Parker. She was first married to the late Henry E. Meggs and then to the late Clyde Clark. Surviving are sons, Hubert Meggs and Neville Meggs of Bennettsville; daughters, Joyce Miles and Judy Hood of Bennettsville; eight grandchildren; seven great-grandchildren.

Marguerite Childers MARION -- Services for Marguerite Elizabeth Childers, 84, will be held at 5 p.m. Sunday, October 28, 2001 at Richardson Funeral Home Chapel with burial in Rose Hill Cemetery. The family will receive friends 7-8 this evening at the funeral home. Mrs. Childers died Thursday, October 25, 2001 at home after an illness. Born in Central, she was a daughter of the late Frank and Frances Keister Brown. She had retired from Tuomey Hospital of Sumter and was a Methodist. Mrs. Childers was predeceased by her first husband, John L. Baxley and her second husband, Roland Childers. Surviving are her sons, John L. Baxley Jr. (Linda) of Arlington, Texas, Cleveland Keister Baxley (Cecelia) of Marion, Frank Wilson Baxley of Patuxant River, Md., David Wayne Baxley of Newton, N.C., William Gary Baxley of Marion; brother, William Jennings Brown of Mount Pleasant; 11 grandchildren; 15 great-grandchildren.

Trying to help fill in those Price family blanks... Another Hayes/Price connection: Ithamer Hayes (1811-1884) of Hayestown, between Lake View and Dillon, was married first to Mary Jane Price, according to the death certificate of one of his sons. Ithamer's second wife was Ann Brewer, and his third wife and widow was Ava Jane Brewer, sister of Ann, and fondly remembered in the community as "Granny Avy Jane." Both Ann and Ava Jane were daughters of my ancestor, Asa Brewer and his wife, Elizabeth Hayes. (Please note that this Elizabeth Hayes' parents are unknown, but she was NOT the daughter of Benjamin Hayes.) >From Death Certificate of Turrentine Hayes: born about 1840, died 29 April 1924 in Dillon County Father: Ithamer Hays Mother: Mary Jane Price Informant: Frank Hayes The informant, Frank Hayes, was a half brother of Turrentine Hayes. Frank was a son of Ithamer and his third wife, Ava Jane Brewer. I know from interviews with descendants of Frank that he spoke often of his family relations, and was quite knowledgable about them. There is no reason to question Frank's knowledge of the name of his father's first wife - his brother's mother. I have no further information on Mary Jane Price. She apparently died between about 1840 when Turrentine "Uncle Tine" was born, and 1850, when the census shows Ithamer married to his 2nd wife, Ann Brewer, mother of Joel B. Hayes who was born in 1851. It's likely that some of the children born between 1840-1850 were Mary Jane's, and some were Ann's, but impossible to determine where the "cut-off" line was. Children of Ithamer Hayes: Children by 1st wife Mary Jane Price: 1) Celia Emma/Emily Hayes born c1838 2) Morgan C. Turrentine "Uncle Tine" Hayes (c1840-1924) never wed Children by either 1st or 2nd wife: 3) Jeanette/Jane Ann Hayes b c1841 4) Virginia Ann Hayes b c1843 5) Nancy Ann Hayes b c1844, mar Theophilus Huggins, son of Henry Huggins & unk Elvington 6) Ithamer J. "Ithey / Dock" Hayes Jr (c1847-1827) d in Robeson Co mar Meroza Britt bur County Home Cem in Robeson Chidren by Ann Brewer: 7) Joel B. Hayes (1851-1932) bur Hayes Cem, between Lake View & Nichols mar Anna Missouri Hill (Possibly Ann Brewer was mother of some of those listed above - one deed strongly indicates Ann might have been mother of Nancy and of Ithamer Jr.) Children by Ava Jane Brewer (sister of Ann Brewer): 8) George H. Franklin "Frank" Hayes (1852-1929) bur Piney Grove Baptist Church mar Louisianna M. Rogers 9) Levi McKibben Hayes (1855-1931) bur Hayestown Cem no stone mar Malinda "Linnie" Scott 10) Samuel J. "Sam" Hayes b c1859 bur Hayestown Cem no stone mar 1/Matilda "Tilly" Stephens mar 2/Bertha Elvington [Sources: Information on earliest daughters based solely on census records and school records. Information on others based on census; extensive interviews with descendants, especially Vida Caroline Cook, granddaughter of Joel B. Hayes; and Dora Bullock Bryant, granddaughter of Frank Hayes. Dora personally remembered Uncle Tine and Granny Ava Jane - in fact Dora identified a photograph of Ava Jane Brewer Hayes for me; tombstones; Bible records; death certificates; Marion Co deeds; a typewritten manuscript by the late SC Senator Roger Scott about "Uncle Tine and Granny Ava Jane." Have many more details on this family (but not on Mary Jane Price) if anyone is interested.] If I had to guess, I would suppose that Mary Jane Price Hayes was connected to the Enos Price who is mentioned in deeds among the Hayestown Hayes families. I have no idea who Enos Price might have been. Family members have said that all three of Ithamer Hayes' wives lie beside him at Hayestown Cemetery, but only Ithamer has a stone. His home was on the little dirt road that ran beside the cemetery, several hundred yards behind the cemetery. I've been told that Dr. Temple purchased this place after Frank Hayes died - he told someone he wanted it just because he was enamored of the building, it having been built with no nails, just pegs and dovetails. It served for awhile as a tenant house, but has long since fallen down, only the chimney remaining. Jo

Larry H. Strickland Larry Howard Strickland, 50, died Tuesday, Oct. 16, 2001, in a boating accident in Winyah Bay. He was born June 8, 1951, in Marion County, a son of the late Tolar Strickland and Dulah Barnhill Strickland. He grew up in Horry County and served in the Army during the Vietnam War. He was an employee of Georgetown Electric Motor Service and was an avid shrimper and fisherman. He attended Graves Southern Baptist Church. Survivors include his wife, Edna Gasque Strickland; two sons, Archie L. Strickland of Georgetown and H. Larry Strickland of Spartanburg; a brother, Rea "Buddy" Strickland of Nichols; three sisters, Linda McLeod of Loris, Dulah May Martin of Aynor and Annie Rushing of Nichols; and three grandchildren, Allison Strickland and Taylor Strickland, both of Georgetown, and Reanna Strickland of Conway. He was predeceased by a brother, Archie Strickland, and a sister, Sadie Caroll. Visitation was Thursday at Mayer Funeral Home in Georgetown. The funeral will be at 2 p.m. today at Graves Southern Baptist Church in Georgetown. The Rev. Michael S. Miller and Michael E. Goude will officiate. Burial will be in Pennyroyal Memorial Gardens.

Thurman J. King Thurman Joseph King, 78, of Longwood Lane, died Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2001, at Conway Hospital. He was born in Conway, a son of the late Allard F. and Dell Jordan King. He was a Baptist and an Army veteran of World War II. He was employed with Dargan Construction before his retirement. Survivors include his wife, Clara Lewis King; two sons, Joe King and Keith King, both of Conway; two stepsons, Jimmy Lewis and Lamar Lewis, both of Conway; two stepdaughters, Helen Holley of Conway and Grace Proctor of Garden City Beach; five brothers, Howard King, Bill King, Junior King, Donald King and John King, all of Conway; four sisters, Dorothy Anderson and Mary Frances Dusenbury, both of Myrtle Beach and Mazie Brown and Estelle Lewis, both of Conway; 12 grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren. Visitation will be from noon to 1 p.m. today at Goldfinch Funeral Home, Conway Chapel. The funeral will be at 2 p.m. today at Hillcrest Mausoleum Chapel. The Rev. Kirk Lawton will officiate. Memorials may be made to Alzheimer's Association, Coastal Carolina Chapter, P.O. Box 80459, Charleston, SC 29416. David Simmons David Simmons died Sunday, Oct. 21, 2001, at Conway Hospital. A memorial service will be at 11 a.m. Saturday at Rhue's Mortuary in Conway. The Rev. Woodrow Jones will officiate.

Milton Holt Sr. FLORENCE -- Services for Milton Edward Holt Sr., 77, will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at Stoudenmire-Dowling Funeral Home Chapel with burial in Mt. Hope Cemetery with Masonic Rites. Visitation will be 6-8 this evening at the funeral home. Mr. Holt died Wednesday. Born in Marion Co., he was a son of the late John C. and Arnelle Weatherford Holt. He was a World War II U.S. Navy veteran, a member of Hampton Lodge #204 AFM and Dawsey United Methodist Church. Surviving are his wife, Vera Mae Edwards Holt; son, Eddie Holt; grandchildren, Sheila Matthews, Dennis Guyton, Eric Holt; two great grandchildren.

Does anyone know anything about my ancestors: Thomas Boatwright, b. 1832, married Louisa Wiggins 31 May 1857 in Marion. They were married by Rev. C. D. Rowell according to the Marion Star. Could this be Methodist? I notice that Rowell is a popular name in Marion County. The couple is shown in the Georgetown, 1860, census as having one child, Lavenia Boatwright. Thomas Boatwright was killed during the Civil War at Trevillion Station. I have found Louise Boatwright on a Dec. 1862 Soldiers Relief Fund list. Three children: Lavinia, Julia and Thomas, nephew of Micajah Wiggins. They were heirs of Daniel Wiggins. I found a probate court record appointing Thomas Wiggins guardian of the three children. J. B. Wall is also one of heirs. Court appoints appraisers JW Moyd, Dan'l McKethen, Randolph Smith, WW Mishan and OH Shaw as appraisers, 24 Feb 1875. Land situated on North Santee adjoining lands of J. W. Moyd and James Bourne, TR Sessions and estate of Jayroe. Land laid out for Micajah Wiggins part of a tract of land granted to Lea-- (?) 24 Nov 1764, surveyed 7 Sep 1812. Any suggestions? Louisa, Louise, Lucy (?) Wiggins/Boatwright was my g-grandmother. Please help me find her. Thanks, Fran Could Lucy be a nickname for Louisa? On the 1850 census,

Oct 24, 2001 Josephine M. Turbeville FLORENCE -- Josephine Martin Turbeville, 80, died Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2001 in a Florence hospital after an illness. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 25 in Waters-Powell Funeral Home Chapel. Burial will be in Florence County Memorial Gardens. Mrs. Turbeville was born in Marion County, a daughter of the late Bonney and Ina Martin. She was a member of Florence Baptist Temple and was a homemaker. Surviving are two daughters, Phyllis Stokes of Timmonsville and Betty Jo (Ernest) Gifford of Anderson; four sons, B. Durwood "Son" (Betty) Turbeville, Douglas G. "Buddy" (Betty) Turbeville and Everette D. "Slim" (Angie) Turbeville Jr., all of Florence, and Allen D. (Bonnie) Turbeville of Dovesville; 20 grandchildren; and 35 great-grandchildren. The family will receive friends from 7 to 9 p.m. today at the funeral home. Memorials may be made to the Florence Baptist Temple Mission Fund, c/o Florence Baptist Temple, 2308 S. Irby St., Florence, S.C. 29505.

Oct 24, 2001 Miss Victoria Grace Stackhouse MARION -- Miss Victoria Grace Stackhouse, 91, died Monday, Oct. 22, 2001 at Conway Nursing Center after an illness. A graveside service will be at 4 p.m. today at Spring Branch Cemetery, directed by Richardson Funeral Home. Miss Stackhouse was born in Marion, a daughter of the late Issac Preston Stackhouse and Lillian Florence Rogers Stackhouse. She was a member of Spring Branch Southern Methodist Church. Miss Stackhouse is survived by many nieces and nephews.

My g.grandfather, b. GA, d. ARK, was an ordained minister of the Methodist Episcopal Church South. He was ordained in Searcy, ARK. In East Texas, where I grew up, there are still black congregations that go by Methodist Episcopal South. Mildred

Died -at her home near Centerary church, Miss Martha A. Coleman, wife of I.M.Coleman aged about 56 years. She was a good christian and had been a constistent member of the Baptist Churchfor 35 years. She leaves a husband and 15(?) children to morn her loss. Source of this obit: William E. Miller Bible record, transcribed and e-mailed to me. I do not know if there is a connection between William E. Miller and martha A. Coleman or I.M. Coleman. JJohnson

Died----Miller---On sunday night April 17,1870, Mrs. Catherine miller , wife of Wm. E. Miller aged 45 years 2 months and 15 days. She was an affectionate and loving wife and kind mother. Leaving behind her to morn her loss, an aged husband and six children, one an infant only four weeks old and a great many relatives and friends. (W.E.Miller) Source of this obit: an e-mail on file, transcription from the William E. Miller Bible. William E. Miller was born near Wilmington, NC, and was a school teacher and resident of Marion County during the mid-1800s. Catherine Miller was born Catherine Brown, daughter of Richard and Lilly Brown of Marion County, SC. Catherine was born July 2, 1825, in Marion County. Her name was spelled Cathrine and Catharine in other e-mails, census reports and records. JJohnson

Another land mark gone---Mr.James Porter died at his residence; nov.4,1878, in the 72nd year of his age, he was one of the most inoffensive men I ever knew, always at his post of duty when his country called. Served in the Indian war in Florida, he joined the Methodist church South South in 1858,in which he lived until his death. A few hours before he breathed his last he told his family and friends all was well, and "no cloud was between him and his love of God." He leaves a large family and one sister, who is a devoted Christian, with a large train of relatives and friends to morn their loss,which is his eternal gain.(E.J.M.) Source: William E. Miller Bible...the above obit received via e-mail to me from transcriber. I do not know what was meant by the "Methodist Church South South" reference. I'll know more when I get an actual copy of this Bible record. JJohnson