> >"You still want to make things simple to satisfy the Genographic Project." What do I care about satisfying them? I'm not employed by them. Well...Spencer Wells did answer my question at the FTDNA conference so my name might ring a bell, but that's about as close as I come to them even knowing I exist. > >"What people tell you from DNA companies is very often only half a truth." You got on me on this one, since I'm also not employed by any DNA companies, I rely on them to be honest and not violate a customer's privacy. But you're the ex-U.S. Government employee here so I'm quite positive you would know way more about anything fishy that could be done by the Govt. > >"If you think for a minute information is not useable from a DNA test to >find more than you want everyone to believe you are really not facing >facts." Same answer as the previous one. > >"Try for a moment to figure out what else one has to do to trace your DNA >back in time. >It is more than a 12 marker test." > I'm not sure why you continue to fixate on the 12-marker test. I'm guessing it's because I don't MANDATE and REQUIRE people to order more markers. Why don't you and another Hendricks cousin of yours order 12-marker tests in the Laurens project and then when your results come in you can test me to see if I'll recommend you upgrade? I would recommend it. >"SNP testing, deep clades which trace the route backward in time 12 markers >is just the beginning. Any group that does this to trace people back in >time use 37+ markers and other tests for specific mutation sites to trace >your DNA backward. I just went through this process, Ethnoancestry. Of >course I don't know what was done so you tell me." > A SNP test is performed on a different section of the Y-chromosome from where your YSTR markers are and confirms your haplogroup. (Deep ancestral origins) Some people believe that STR and SNP testing will someday converge. >Go to Haplo-tree testing and you will begin to get the idea. John McEwan >has an R1b site, Kerchner has another and this is just a beginning of what >you have to do that the Genographic Project has also to do to use a persons >DNA to trace him back in time. Just twelve marker testing just a start. > I'm well versed on the sources you cite, and can recommend some to you as well. Thanks again Herb, I'm really quite impressed with how much time and keystrokes you've spent on sharing "the truth" with me today!

Enough, y'all! Can you please continue your DNA discussion off this Laurens list? Please, no disrespect, but it is starting to get old. Sincerely, Lisa Katherine Hope Borges <kvjjmmborges@msn.com> wrote: > >"You still want to make things simple to satisfy the Genographic Project." What do I care about satisfying them? I'm not employed by them. Well...Spencer Wells did answer my question at the FTDNA conference so my name might ring a bell, but that's about as close as I come to them even knowing I exist. > >"What people tell you from DNA companies is very often only half a truth." You got on me on this one, since I'm also not employed by any DNA companies, I rely on them to be honest and not violate a customer's privacy. But you're the ex-U.S. Government employee here so I'm quite positive you would know way more about anything fishy that could be done by the Govt. > >"If you think for a minute information is not useable from a DNA test to >find more than you want everyone to believe you are really not facing >facts." Same answer as the previous one. > >"Try for a moment to figure out what else one has to do to trace your DNA >back in time. >It is more than a 12 marker test." > I'm not sure why you continue to fixate on the 12-marker test. I'm guessing it's because I don't MANDATE and REQUIRE people to order more markers. Why don't you and another Hendricks cousin of yours order 12-marker tests in the Laurens project and then when your results come in you can test me to see if I'll recommend you upgrade? I would recommend it. >"SNP testing, deep clades which trace the route backward in time 12 markers >is just the beginning. Any group that does this to trace people back in >time use 37+ markers and other tests for specific mutation sites to trace >your DNA backward. I just went through this process, Ethnoancestry. Of >course I don't know what was done so you tell me." > A SNP test is performed on a different section of the Y-chromosome from where your YSTR markers are and confirms your haplogroup. (Deep ancestral origins) Some people believe that STR and SNP testing will someday converge. >Go to Haplo-tree testing and you will begin to get the idea. John McEwan >has an R1b site, Kerchner has another and this is just a beginning of what >you have to do that the Genographic Project has also to do to use a persons >DNA to trace him back in time. Just twelve marker testing just a start. > I'm well versed on the sources you cite, and can recommend some to you as well. Thanks again Herb, I'm really quite impressed with how much time and keystrokes you've spent on sharing "the truth" with me today! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Well, I am interested in the DNA testing, but couldn't we try to be more positive in finding the best way to do this? I'm tired of an argument going on on this web site. Instead of arguing, put your and our heads together to find the best way to conduct a DNA study. I'd like to hear a civil discussion on this subject including the latest available in DNA genealogical testing. What do you think? Linda Graves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Hope Borges" <kvjjmmborges@msn.com> To: <SCLAUREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [SCLAUREN] The Genographic DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators > > > > > >"You still want to make things simple to satisfy the Genographic Project." > > What do I care about satisfying them? I'm not employed by them. > Well...Spencer Wells > did answer my question at the FTDNA conference so my name might ring a bell, > but that's about as close as I come to them even knowing I exist. > > > > >"What people tell you from DNA companies is very often only half a truth." > > You got on me on this one, since I'm also not employed by any DNA companies, > I rely on them to be honest and not violate a customer's privacy. But > you're > the ex-U.S. Government employee here so I'm quite positive you would know > way > more about anything fishy that could be done by the Govt. > > > > >"If you think for a minute information is not useable from a DNA test to > >find more than you want everyone to believe you are really not facing > >facts." > > Same answer as the previous one. > > > >"Try for a moment to figure out what else one has to do to trace your DNA > >back in time. > >It is more than a 12 marker test." > > > I'm not sure why you continue to fixate on the 12-marker test. I'm guessing > it's because I don't MANDATE and REQUIRE people to order more markers. Why > don't you and another Hendricks > cousin of yours order 12-marker tests in the Laurens project and then when > your results come in you can test me to see if I'll recommend you upgrade? I > would recommend it. > > >"SNP testing, deep clades which trace the route backward in time 12 markers > >is just the beginning. Any group that does this to trace people back in > >time use 37+ markers and other tests for specific mutation sites to trace > >your DNA backward. I just went through this process, Ethnoancestry. Of > >course I don't know what was done so you tell me." > > > > A SNP test is performed on a different section of the Y-chromosome from > where your YSTR markers are and confirms your haplogroup. (Deep ancestral > origins) Some people believe that STR and SNP testing will someday > converge. > > > >Go to Haplo-tree testing and you will begin to get the idea. John McEwan > >has an R1b site, Kerchner has another and this is just a beginning of what > >you have to do that the Genographic Project has also to do to use a persons > >DNA to trace him back in time. Just twelve marker testing just a start. > > > > I'm well versed on the sources you cite, and can recommend some to you as > well. > > Thanks again Herb, I'm really quite impressed with how much time and > keystrokes > you've spent on sharing "the truth" with me today! > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >