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    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: It has been great corresponding with you. I still have much to do on the Rodgers line. I have found a Martha Rodgers 70 b. SC living in the household of Albert Madden and Mary Jane Rodgers Madden in 1860 that I am now trying to place. Has to be connected but am just not sure where as of yet. Genealogy is just like a giant jigsaw puzzle and I do love puzzles.

    12/27/2005 04:42:20
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: jo-------well, whoever his mother was, it would have definitely been this benjamin harper saxon, who would have written this letter in behalf of my frances rodgers harris re this found will of my william harris, jr. sorry to say, and as my frances rodgers harris also died 1800/ 1801 laurens co, sc, apparently, nothing more was done to establish this will. speaking of the yancey family, we are participating in the harris dna project and i am noting connections with our harris family in the new kent/ hanover cos; louisa co; and lunenburg co, va areas with the yancy family. perhaps, this was also the same yancey family also on into laurens co, sc??? i cannot think of other things for now re these/ our families but thanks so much for corresponding with me in regard to them. perhaps, someone else will see our posts and be interested and even able to add more or you may want to add more re your interests-------belva

    12/27/2005 03:12:25
    1. Re: [SCLAUREN] Re: PUCKETT family in Lauren, SC 1750 to 1800
    2. Lisa Bass
    3. I recently transcribed the will of James Puckett and submitted it to the Laurens County, SC Archives (online). As of Friday, it has yet to show up on the website, therefore I will paste it to this e-mail. I am a descendant of the Overby's and William Ball, who witnessed this will of James Puckett. I hope this assists you somewhat in your research. I have a feeling the Overby's and Puckett's were related in some way or another, but I have yet to find out how. If anyone can help me out, I'd love to hear from you! I transcribed it exactly the way I received it, however I did interject spaces to break it up a bit so it can be read a bit easier. If you have any questions about interpretation, please don't hesitate to contact me. Lisa Will transcription provided by the South Carolina Department of Archives and History Contributed by: Lisa D. Bass The will of James Puckett was written 10 February 1796, Laurens District, South Carolina. Names mentioned within the will: James Puckett Susanah Pinson Jene (?) Beasley John Pinson Joel Pinson Nancy Beasley Chainey Beasley Gun Beasley Widow Crun John Beasley Richard Puckett Dabney Puckett Neeley Puckett Jueens (?) Puckett William Ball Meshack Overby Martha Overby David Anderson - Ordinary Will of James Pucket I, James Pucket of South Carolina Laurens County Saluday River Being in my perfict Senies & Memory though at present in a Vary Lor State of heth at prefsent & having taken into Confidaration that one day all flefsh must die and go to Judgement I tharefore leive my Soule to God who give it and my Body to the grave whare my Executors shall think gos Convanent to say it and as for my warley goods I dispose of thise that Distribution may be maid of them as the folling Line will paynt out furstly I give and Bequath my lands to be Equaly Devided amounghts all my Childrin onley Susfanah Pinfson an Jene Beasley as for John pinson and Sufsanah his wife is to have the plantation whare on thay Now live fore thare parts of land and it being the S.d land and primises that I maid a Deed of gift to my grand sun Joel Pinson and Sufsanah my Daughter is to have that Land and primises thare Lifetime and then to my grand sun Joel pinson According to the Deed of gift onley the appel orched to stand as it is in the Deed of Gift till my sun James is of the age of Eaighteen then to be sold at the Value and the money divided amounght all the Childrin Viz. I give and to my two grand Childrin Nanfey Beafsley and Chainey Besfsley the tract of land that would have Bin Gun Beafsleys part or thareabouts with shall be the Number of Acres that is in the tract that said Deed of gift is fur to be Run or said along S.d line Beginning at John pinsons Corner towards the wefst Running out South and then down the Cals? of the Creek to the Widow Cruns line John Beafsley and his wife is to have that land thare lifetime and it thay see cause to live on it But Not to sell and thento faule to the two Children above mentioned & if Either of the Children Dies without an are the othr to have the Land and that the S.d John & Jeen Befsley is to have twenty Shillings & that is to be thare part of my Property & John and Sufsanah Pinson is to have twenty shillings and that is to be thare parte with what thay have had I give and Bequath the rest of my land to be Equaly Divided the other Childrin Richard and Dabney & Neeley Jueens & James togather with all my other property such as Hack of all kind house furniture and utensionls onley Jueens My Daughter is to have three pounds lefs for a saddle the haf she has got and I appoynt Dabney my Exector togather with Neeley and the Negros if thay Live till James comes to be Eaighteen years then to be Diveded Betwext Dabney Richard Neeley and Jueens and James and what eath shall be found after my Just Debts are paid if any to be Equaley Devided Betwict the last mentioned Childrin this given as my act and Deed hand and seale Last will and testament as witnef hereof I have hereunto set my hand and seale in the prifsent of William Ball Martha Averbay Mashack Averbay James Pucket (Seal) this 10th of februry 1796 the above will was prived the 20th day of february 1800 by Mefshack Averbay and William Ball who sworn thay saw martha averbay sign with thimselves as a witnefs & c-before me David Andorsonardy. Proven date 20th day of February 1800 Recorded date not available Original will not in files of Probate Judge ----- Original Message ----- From: Margie King<mailto:heyred@knology.net> To: SCLAUREN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCLAUREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: [SCLAUREN] Re: PUCKETT family in Lauren, SC 1750 to 1800 My research has led me to Lauren, SC to the following Puckett family and would like to know if anyone is researching them. James Puckett Susan Puckett Cornelias Puckett Lucy Puckett Richard Puckett Jane Puckett James Puckett Dabney Puckett ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

    12/27/2005 01:56:05
    1. Re: PUCKETT family in Lauren, SC 1750 to 1800
    2. Margie King
    3. My research has led me to Lauren, SC to the following Puckett family and would like to know if anyone is researching them. James Puckett Susan Puckett Cornelias Puckett Lucy Puckett Richard Puckett Jane Puckett James Puckett Dabney Puckett

    12/27/2005 01:03:22
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Daniel Martin book tells us nothing else about Benjamin but a site in ancestry shows multiple marriages for him and with spouse Elizabeth Perry he had a son Bejamin Harper Saxon b. 1772 in Laurens. A site in ancewstry gives Sarah Greens father as William Green. Benjamin's mother was Mary Yancy per this site. His wives were Sarah Green, Elizabeth Yancy and Elizabeth Perry. Who knows if this is correct however. lol The ancestry site for Sarah does not show a David in her family.

    12/27/2005 12:23:31
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: jo--------perhaps related benjamin saxons, but per the laurens co, sc records book 1785-1820, b.h.saxon's wife was named mary, not sarah. also per the laurens records book, this b.h. saxon; j.a.elmore; and james dillard sold several tracts of land together there in laurens co, sc, which i believe may have been in the town of laurens. speaking of this james dillard, james mc laughlin; john mc laughlin and an andrew parks signed as security re the estate of my william harris, jr 1799 laurens co, sc. this james dillard also signed this page. perhaps, this was in some official capacity but his title not given. re sarah green saxon, wife of the benjamin saxon, you named, per laurens deed book A, page 123, patrick cunningham and wife, ann, sold to david green, minister, 100 acres on north side of reedy river. witnesses were my william harris, jr; edward kemp; and benjamin tuner. laurens co, sc records definitely indicate that patrick's wife, ann harris cunningham, was a sister of my william harris, jr. i am wondering if this rev david green was related to sarah green saxon? does the "martin book" say who sarah green saxon's father was? thanks--------belva

    12/27/2005 12:12:30
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: There was a Benjamin Saxon who married Sarah Green about 1757, son of Samuel Saxon and brother of Charles Saxon who was the father of Sarah Saxon who married my John Leander Rodgers. I really do not know much about any of the Saxon's and this information comes from the Daniel Martin book. Daniel Martin married a Mary Saxon (I presume from this same family).

    12/27/2005 08:11:27
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: jo------------our harris family also traces back to henrico co, va on into new kent/ hanover cos, va as well. my charles harris and 3 of his younger sons: ransom b harris; cannon harris; and richard harris were in 1850 in itawamba co, ms and then, my charles harris died in 1865 in greene county, arkansas. his son richard harris was also in 1860 in greene co, ar but, so far, i have not been able to locate where my charles harris and other sons were in 1860? speaking of the saxons, john harris, son of my william harris, jr, destroyed his father's, my william harris, jr's laurens co, sc will. included in the estate papers was a letter written in behalf of my frances rodgers harris by b.h. saxon, stating that a will had been found and that a captain dyson would give testimony to establish this will. do you know who this b.h.saxon was and how he was, perhaps, related to your mary saxon rodgers? thanks----------belva

    12/27/2005 07:37:34
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I had seen something in Ancestry regarding Tabitha Rogers Hunter but did not follow up on it as I was sure it was not my Tabitha. George Asbury Martin was the son of Daniel Martin b. 1745-1750 in New Kent Co., VA. I have information on his ancestry and no Abraham appears on it but I really don't have an awfully lot of it. George had several brothers and sisters and have some information on 2 of them but little on any of the others. I don't even have names for the sisters. I have Harris's later on in my tree in Mississippi. Did you Harris's go there later one?

    12/27/2005 06:58:32
    1. Re: MIller/Harris/Hollis
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YeB.2ACI/468.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Belva, Hello, Yes I think there could be a connection. James J Harris was born between 1808-1812 in SC and died about 1870-1880 in Paulding County, GA. He married Mary Miller (daughter of John Miller). I would like to exchange information with you. My email address is pbc813@aol.com. James could have been brother of your William Harris Jr. Thanks, Penny

    12/27/2005 06:09:32
    1. Re: MIller/Harris/Hollis
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YeB.2ACI/468.1.1.1 Message Board Post: hi penny -------- i cannot identify your james harris but this was my harris family both in laurens co, sc and paulding co, ga and it certainly seems like we must have related harris family. in fact, my charles harris was also involved with a john miller. my charles harris, son of my william harris, jr, who d 1799 laurens co, sc, and james young appraised the estate of john miller ca 1814 laurens co, sc. my archibald harris, son of charles harris, m ca 1826 elizabeth carter, dau of robert carter, jr also of laurens co, sc. by 1830, my arch harris was near my robert carter, jr in gwinnette co, ga and my charles harris in adjacent dekalb co, ga. then all were on the 1834 cobb co, ga state census. ca 1855, my arch harris moved from paulding co, ga to benton co, now cleburne co, al. his son, my james h harris, who m anne cooper, dau of jesse and rebecca darby cooper of union co, sc, died 1872 paulding co, ga. i know my william harris, jr, per his estate papers, also had sons: thomas; john; and william harris and am wondering if your james harris could have descended from one of these other sons??? i would really appreciate hearing from you--------sincerely, belva harris cauthen

    12/27/2005 05:46:53
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: jo------- i would appreciate our getting more into this via our own e-mails but to keep this on the message boards for now because someone else may also be interested and know more about these connections. per a laurens co, sc deed, my william harris, jr and wife, frances, sold 200 acres to peter kelley and the other 100 acres to william rodgers. this had been the 300 acre original grant on north's creek of little river to my william harris, sr, inherited by my william harris, jr as "son and heir at law". i believe this william rodgers and his wife, frances, may have been a son-in-law of my william and frances rodgers harris, and that this william rodgers was a son of andrew and ann mc nees rodgers. info i have seen indicates that this william rodgers and wife, frances, also had a dau tabitha rodgers, who married judge john hunter. do you possibly know any more about these connections or have you corresponded with anyone interested in this tabitha rodgers hunter? who was your george asbury martin? do you know if your martin family was related to the abraham martin family also of lunenburg, now charlotte co, va??---------thanks again, belva harris cauthen

    12/27/2005 05:12:37
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: John Leander Rodgers is my 4th great grandfather thru his daughter Tabitha Rodgers who married George Asbury Martin. Yes I was aware of Ann and Jane McNees marriages. A land transaction was the proof of the connection of John to William.

    12/27/2005 04:34:41
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: jo------- thanks so much for your reply and for letting me know what you know re john rodgers, sr. are you aware that some claim that the john rodgers, sr, son of william rodgers who died 1755 lunenburg co, va, moved to caldwell co, ky?? i have only seen a few pages re the "martin book". does the author give proof of why she believed the john rodgers in laurens co, sc was the son of william rodgers and not the son of andrew rodgers, who also died 1755 lunenburg co, va?? in regard to the mc nees family, which i think you probably already know from the "martin book", andrew rodgers, who was the son of the andrew rodgers of lunenburg and whose grant was adjacent my william harris, jr in laurens co, sc, married ann mc nees, sister of margaret mc nees rodgers. then, their sister jane mc nees married shadrick martin, who witnessed a laurens co, sc deed re my william harris, jr. they were all the daus of john mc nees, who was very involved with the rodgers; caldwell families, etc in lunenburg, now charlotte co, va, on into laurens co, sc. john mc laughlin, son of james mc laughlin, married ca 1798 laurens co, sc sarah goode harris, sister of my charles harris, children of my william, jr and frances rodgers harris. their dau margaret married james mc nees, who i am sure was also part of this same mc nees family. how do you descend from the john leander rodgers/ mary saxon family? thanks again----------sincerely, belva harris cauthen

    12/27/2005 04:18:02
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rodgers/Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I have very little on John Rodgers, father of John Leander. He is believed to have been born between 1730-1740. He married Margaret McNees, daughter of John McNees and it appears he purchased land in Laurens Co. on Nov. 14, 1770. He was the son of William Rodgers and appears to have come to Laurens Co., SC from Charlotte Co., VA. From various sources it appears he had 5 children, John Leander, Mary, Andrew, McNees and another daughter. I do not have a date of marriage for John and Margaret McNees Rodgers but think they were married sometime between 1750-1760. If someone could find a marriage record it would help as I don't even know if they were married in VA or SC. Both families were in VA prior to 1770.

    12/27/2005 01:35:19
    1. Re: Rodgers, John Leander b. 1761 VA m. Mary Saxon
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YeB.2ACI/545.1.2.1 Message Board Post: hi---------my william harris, sr and jr had adjacent original 1772 land grants in the little river area of laurens co, sc. my william harris, jr's grant was also adjacent andrew rodgers. the laurens co, sc records book 1785-1820 also shows that my william harris, jr was involved with the rodgers family. then, john rodgers, esq, was one of the purchasers at my william harris, jr's 1799 laurens co, sc estate sale. these connections have led me to believe that my william harris, jr's wife, frances, was frances rodgers, dau of this john rodgers, esq, who would have been john rodgers, sr, and his wife, margaret mc nees. i am also concerned about dates. i estimate my frances rodgers? harris was probably born ca 1750. does the "martin book" also give the birthdate and date of death for john rodgers, sr???---------thanks, belva harris cauthen----------- belvacauthen@yahoo.com

    12/26/2005 02:18:33
    1. Richards and Woodson genealogy
    2. TRMitcham
    3. I am looking for the facts will on an Christopher Woodson who was married to the widow of Green Richards by the name of Elizabeth (Hayes) She was married to Green Richards May 9, 1812 in Granville Co., NC then her husband Green Richards died before January 1820. I am trying to find the marriage records of associations of the relationship of Richards and Woodson. I know that John Green Richards was moved to Alabama by 1860 This means that the parents died or move on the the daughter Nancy O'Shields to Georgia. Rose

    12/22/2005 02:47:10
    1. Woodson. Richards, South and Hayes marriages
    2. TRMitcham
    3. Hello. I am looking for information on a Christopher Woodson who married in Laurens Co., SC to a Mrs. Elizabeth (Hayes) Richards after her husband's death in 1820. She had two children by her first husband Green Richards by the name of John Green Richards and Nancy Richards O'Sheilds John Green Richards her son, married Amanda South, the children were of John and Amanda were: Maragaret Richards John Daniel Richards Benjamin Franklin Richards James Robert Richards William Richards who died with his mother as a refugee who traveled to the area of Washington Co., IL in 1860's during the Civil War. John Green Richards died in the Civil War. John Daniel Richards was married in Washington Co., IL to Lousia Woodsides and later they traveled back to the South and died in Texas If anyone know anythin about the Christopher Woodson and his wife Elizabeth please share. Rose

    12/18/2005 12:55:21
    1. Woodson, Richards, and O'Shields property
    2. Richard A. Lorenz
    3. In my previous reply I mentioned the sale of 99 acres by Christopher Woodson in 1841. It looks like this same piece of property was sold earlier as follows. Deed Book N, page 165, 1836, has Isaac O Sheales mortgage 99 acres on Headly Creek to Fred Johnson "for better security of Fred Johnson". Property borders John Johnson and Leven Y. Stuart. My interpretation of this is that mortgaged property could be reclaimed if the amount owed could be paid. Since this same piece of land was later sold by "Christopher Woodson etc.", I am guessing that the land was reclaimed by Isaac O Sheales (O'Shields) and later transferred to Christopher Woodson. It is not unusual for records of land transfers to be missing, since people did not bother to have all deeds recorded in the books in Laurens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TRMitcham" <trmitcham@vircom.net> To: <SCLAUREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [SCLAUREN] Woodson. Richards, South and Hayes marriages > Hello. > I am looking for information on a Christopher Woodson who married in > Laurens Co., SC to a Mrs. Elizabeth (Hayes) Richards after her husband's > death in 1820. She had two children by her first husband Green Richards by > the name of John Green Richards and Nancy Richards O'Sheilds > > John Green Richards her son, married Amanda South, the children were of > John and Amanda were: > Maragaret Richards > John Daniel Richards > Benjamin Franklin Richards > James Robert Richards > William Richards who died with his mother as a refugee who traveled to the > area of Washington Co., IL in 1860's during the Civil War. John Green > Richards died in the Civil War. John Daniel Richards was married in > Washington Co., IL to Lousia Woodsides and later they traveled back to the > South and died in Texas > > If anyone know anythin about the Christopher Woodson and his wife > Elizabeth please share. > > Rose > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    12/17/2005 03:09:54
    1. Re: [SCLAUREN] Woodson. Richards
    2. Richard A. Lorenz
    3. Christopher Woodson first appeared in my census notes in the 1829 census with a family of 6. No ages or sex information in the 1829 census. In 1830 and 1840 he lived near Shady Grove or Bonds Crossroads according to my interpretation of the census records. Deed Book O, page 55, 1841, has Christopher Woodson etc. selling 99 acres on Hedley (Headless?) Creek to George Y. Roland. Property bordered John Johnson, Leven Stewart, and Littles Roland. Tract which Green Richards, dec., ______. I could not read the ______, but what I wrote in my notes might be the word "possessed". The "etc." above might mean that someone else owned a share of the land. The Headley Creek location is compatible with Shady Grove and Bond's Crossroads. My interpretation of Christopher's 1850 census location is that he had moved somewhere else, probably within some miles of Lisbon Church. Not certain about that. Sorry that I don't have any information about his family connections. Richard Lorenz ----- Original Message ----- From: "TRMitcham" <trmitcham@vircom.net> To: <SCLAUREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: [SCLAUREN] Woodson. Richards, South and Hayes marriages > Hello. > I am looking for information on a Christopher Woodson who married in > Laurens Co., SC to a Mrs. Elizabeth (Hayes) Richards after her husband's > death in 1820. She had two children by her first husband Green Richards by > the name of John Green Richards and Nancy Richards O'Sheilds > > John Green Richards her son, married Amanda South, the children were of > John and Amanda were: > Maragaret Richards > John Daniel Richards > Benjamin Franklin Richards > James Robert Richards > William Richards who died with his mother as a refugee who traveled to the > area of Washington Co., IL in 1860's during the Civil War. John Green > Richards died in the Civil War. John Daniel Richards was married in > Washington Co., IL to Lousia Woodsides and later they traveled back to the > South and died in Texas > > If anyone know anythin about the Christopher Woodson and his wife > Elizabeth please share. > > Rose > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    12/17/2005 02:46:36