-----Original Message----- From: Eleonore <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 11:32 AM Subject: DEED BOOK LOOK-UP >Hi, does someone on the list have the Lancaster Co.Deed Book,R? >I need a lookup and copy of two deeds, one in 1857 on page 383,SARAH >MASSEY,Lessee and James H.Witherspoon,Lessor; >the other in Book S, 1860 on page 230, JAMES MASSEY, Lessor, >J.J.O'Connell,Lessee. >Will gladly pay for the copy of these deeds;thank you,Eleonore > > > >

Does anyone have any information at all on a family named NEISSEN in the area during the early to mid 1800s? In going thru some old family papers, I have discovered that I am supposed to have connections with a family by this surname, unless the papers are somehow in error. They most likely would have been somewhere in the Lancaster County area. And a great Saturday morning to all. Bill

Per Michael Crocker of Union, SC page "Monday, June 7 ONLY - South Carolina: Records and Reference CD http://shop.ancestry.com/ancestry/soutcarrecan.html They didn't say what the sale price would be, just that daily specials are up to 40% off. The more SC connections you have and the broader the time span covered, the more useful the CD will be to you. It does have a good search tool, and allows bookmarking, highlighting and tagging. The text is actual text (not an image) which can be copied with copy and paste." This is Brent Holcomde SC Ancestry Magazine. Even at regular price of $34,95 should be worth it but less 40 would make it cheap. Worth looking into. I will definately buy. Bil _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Hi, the other day I corresponded with someone about the COPELAND/MASSEY connection; I am sorry, but I misplaced your e-mail address, please contact me again,Eleonore

The 1830 Lancaster, S.C. census index, lists Zadok SUTTON, as HH. The 1850 Flat Creek/Hickory Head Township, Lancaster Co., S.C. census, lists at Nr. 513, Mrs. N. Reynolds, age 70, M. SUTTON, age 50 F, S. SUTTON, age 21 F,   J. SUTTON, age 19 M. The 1850 Flat Creek/Hickory Head Township, Lancaster Co., S.C. census, lists at Nr. 514, E. SUTTON, age 22 M, C. SUTTON, age 20 F, and E. SUTTON, age 6/12 M. The 1860 census lists these folks in the same location, with the first names, of Edmond, Caroline, and Edward SUTTON. Any information/connections with these folks, would be appreciated. David T. Sutton Hendersonville, N.C. [email protected]

Bill, I hope those reading this will forgive me for what I am about to say, but as a Southern Californian I would never trust any organization out here in the 1001 towns that make up LA (or similar community) that I didn't have a lot of background on before giving them my hard earned dollars. I have found that folks whose family history originated on the the east coast SEEM to have a greater interest in their personal history than those who originated on the west coast. This is probably because most of our families did originate in the east. Out here, there is relatively less history and most revolves around the gold rush and hispanic movements. History in the east is very marketable commodity simply because they HAVE an abundance of easily obtainable records that pertain to an abundance of early population. They have little reason to market a poor product. As for west coast history, I am proud of the people out here who work so hard to preserve what belongs to the west and sometimes wish I could find an ancestor who was a '49er from SC! I happen to be the first in my direct SC lineage from pre1790 to have been born outside of SC. Perhaps this is why I feel as tho SC is my real home. I hope my words have not offended anyone and that it may help save someone valuable dollars in this most expensive hobby. Barb [email protected] wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.2 Type: message/rfc822

I got a flyer from a company called S C Records in Studio City, California for a bokk called South Carolina "Bible Vital Records" which included one for George Brasington of Camden District, I person I have been looking for awile. Book was to be published n March 1999. I sent in pre-publication check for $35 in February and got it back from Post Office as undeliverable yesterday (3 months from here to CA and back, a NEW US Post Office Record). Has anyone else heard of these guys and did anyone else send a check? I have the feeling that it may have been a scam and O just dodged a $35 loss. However, if for real and you got a book, please let me know. W A "Bil" Brasington 3703 Sunstone Drive Houston, Texas 77068-1203 www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/a/William-A-Brasington/ To steal from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research. Why couldn't I have had one paper "pack rat" ancestor? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Sorry to post this to the list...please forgive, but I've lost the address for Bill Hughes. Please contact me Bill. Linda [email protected]

I am forwarding this message to the list because I know there are a lot of fellow HOOD researchers out there. Hope to see you all soon on the list! > Fellow Hood Family researchers: > > I wanted you to know that I have set up a Hood Family Listserv (mailing & > discussion list), for the purpose of enabling you and me to exchange Hood > family genealogies, tips, queries, etc. by email. I have set it up as an > open (non-moderated) list, so that any member that sends a message will > automatically have the message forwarded to everyone else on the list. > > I did not want to limit it to the William Hood I am researching, but leave > it open to ALL Hoods in the US and elsewhere. I even named it the "Hoods > Everywhere" list. > > The advantage to a mailing list, as compared to the Hood Genforum > (http://www.genforum.com/Hood) is that everything flows by email in real > time. Of course, if the volume gets too large, this becomes a > disadvantage. There is also the possibility of spam email and flaming - > which I will control by dropping members that engage in it (I like to > think of the process as "dismembering") or, as a last resort, going to a > "moderated" list format (everything flows through me to the group). > > If you are interested in joining this, send an email to > "[email protected]" (without the quotes). You will > receive a verification message and instructions. > > If your email reader reads HTML, this should appear as a link for email > (if not, or if I did it wrong, it will be gibberish): > > <a > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > bot.com > > If you join and find it helpful, tell other Hood researchers not listed > above about it so they can join. If you do not find it helpful, tell me > so I can make it better! My email addresses are: > > [email protected] > [email protected] > > Thank you. > > > Roger L. Hood > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5875

Since my previous message I have worked it out and if you had a problem with the previous bookmark, try going to: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/sc/sccolony.txt for the colonial censuses including the 1765 one (they are alphatized by name and the years are mixed). Louise Pettus

The 1765 SC is awkward to get to but is on the York Co, SC site (and maybe on other SC counties, too). Here is my bookmark for the 1765 and other colonial years censuses: http://members.aol.com/prsjr/sc/census01.htm Louise Pettus PS: the York GenWeb is being redone with a new coordinator and when fully ready will no doubt be much easier to follow.

I have heard/seen references to a Census taken in 1765 in South Carolina, but have yet to find it or anyone who has it. Does such a Census exist? Is it available somewhere? How can I obtain a copy of it? Tons of family to look for and would really like to find this if it's really out there. Thanks! Bill Hughes [email protected] Peoria, Arizona ô¿ô SMILE, it drives the "normal" folks crazy!

The LDS site has been up and reasonably stable for about a week. I have used it and it is a great start. It is at www.familysearch.org It can be a bit slow and is down a bit too often for maintenance but is worth a trip. One plus is that if you find an hit on an Ancestral submission, the mailing information is available, although it could be out of date. Their information, liek all others, should be taken with a grain a salt because there are errors. The list the birth place of Willaim Figuars Brasington as England when in reality it was Sumter County, SC, per his 1883 Baptist Messenger Obit. Bil _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Thanks for the beautiful history and geography lesson! > You asked about Clems branch and McMichaels. I think it > is not McMichaels but McAlpine (present-day) creek > just above Clems branch. Yes, I wrote McMichaels Creek in my original message where I meant to write McAlpine. Some early land descriptions talked about a ridge between McAlpine and McMichaels Creek. If the name Clems Branch was used in Revolutionary times, it probably wasn't McMichaels Creek. I can't find a name for the next creek north of McAlpine at GNIS, though -- the creek that runs just east of Pineville. There's a Little Sugar Creek in the viciniity, but the label on the GNIS map straddles several creeks! I can't attach files, but if you can look at this map, we'll know we're in the same quadrant <g> http://mapping.usgs.gov:8888/gnis/owa/MapServer?f_name=McAlpine+Creek&f_state= SC&f_latlong=350200N0805351W&f_ht=.125&server=TIGER I am researching a William Brown who had land on Twelve Mile Creek, a few miles south of this area. His son Thomas described the land as 1/4 mile from the Catawba River, 3 miles from the Widow Jackon (presumably when she was living in the James Crawford household), and 45 miles from Camden, which matches exactly the Twelve Mile Creek location. William Brown had a son William, and I am wondering if this is the William who had land on McMichaels Creek. Could people have travelled up the Catawba River and Sugar Creek, or would they have to go overland?

You asked about Clems branch and McMichaels. I think it is not McMichaels but McAlpine (present-day) creek just above Clems branch. In the old surveys and patent books, there are various spellings. Fairly common is McCappens, McCapin, McCoppens and McCaupens. It is in the Indian Land's most northern section and flows out of NC into Sugar Creek in what is now called Barberville. Here is a story I once wrote about Clems Branch: Clems Branch by Louise Pettus The small clear stream known as Clems Branch meanders across the North Carolina-South Carolina state line headed eventually for Sugar Creek, a more vigorous stream, thence to the mighty Catawba. Clems Branch, supposedly named for Clem Davis, early settler, doesn¹t get much name recognition, even in Lancaster County where it ends its course. Maybe a few, a very few, Revolutionary War buffs could place it. Battles are better remembered than temporary camps. In June and July 1780 Thomas Sumter and about 300 men used a spot on John Culp¹s land as a place to recuperate. Sumter had been made responsible for all that fanshaped territory from the junction of the Broad and Catawba Rivers up to the North Carolina line. Charles Town had fallen in May and Cornwallis must have considered that, for all practical purposes, he had taken South Carolina. In only a matter of time, he would push through the Carolinas and end it all for the colonies in Virginia. So it would seem. Sumter¹s army was in disarray. Christian Huck, Philadelphia lawyer turned Tory, was terrorizing eastern York County. There seemed to be no way for Sumter to control the high road from Blackstock¹s to Ninety-Six whereby he could maintain contact with Gen. Andrew Pickens. Sumter¹s men needed badly to recover and to procure more lead and powder. Daniel Green Stinson wrote that from Clems Branch a Sgt. Ben Rowan took a few men and went as far as 200 miles into North Carolina to get lead. The men drove packhorses and brought back 250 pounds of lead on each horse. Other soldiers left Clems Branch for powder. About 35 Catawba Indians, under the chief General New River, often served as guides. There were blacksmiths making and repairing rifles and manufacturing swords. Leather workers practiced their craft. Foragers gathered the necessary foodstuffs for the coming campaign. Capt. John McClure, who headed a company of mounted riflemen, was out trying to recruit more men and to urge the despondent frontier people that all was not lost. McClure was soon to die of his wounds at Hanging Rock. ³An interesting affair,² as one Sumter biographer termed it, occurred when the officers returned from Ramsour¹s Mill battle and set up camp at Clems Branch. These officers held ³a confention of the whole² and elected Thomas Sumter as their general. The election created a delicate problem for Governor Rutledge who had commissioned, without knowledge of the election, a Colonel Williams to be general. Sumter¹s election prevailed. John Rosser says that in the 1820s and Œ30s the old Sumter camp was used as a busy farmer¹s camping ground for market and trading wagons. There was always a blacksmith present to repair the wagons and a tavern known as Seymour¹s. In this manner the camp site stayed cleared for a half century or more. How many battle tales must have been recounted over the campfires of a later day! Today there is nothing, so sign or marker, to remind us of the Clems Branch campground and its small but significant role in our region¹s history.

I am looking for Robert Kirkpartrick b. 26 Oct 1736, About 50 mi from Camden, Cheraws Dist, SC d. 2 Apr 1841 Cooper Co., MO m. 10 Nov 1785, Lancaster Co., SC to Martha by Rev. Robert Finley. Served in Rev. War 1778, (he resided 20 mi from Camden in Cheraws Dist SC marched to Charleston, later when the British came to Camden he went up 50 or 60 mi to Waxhawas & enlisted co ofWiggs. He was in 1790 census Camden Dist-1800 Camden Dist Census Lancaseter Co., SC. There was a James Kirkpatrick there in 1810 who was probably related to Robert. He may well have been the 1797-1798 Well know boat builder named Kirkpatrick in Camden. [no given name known] He was following the Cumberland Presbyterian Movement & Finis Ewing. He was in TN for a short time maybe Montgomery Co. (not sure), by 1810 Robert was in Chirstian Co., KY with the Rev. Ewing & the Cumberland Presbyterian Movement, he went with this group to Cooper Co., MO about 1819/20. We need his parentage & some details on his life in SC. Some people go with the old theory (no proof) he is son of John & Margaret Kirkpatrick of NC but he never said he was ever in NC and I am pretty sure he knew that the area he was born in was in SC not NC, I doubt if he lived in SC & his parents in NC . There are so darn many Robert Kirkpatricks two others in Chester Co which was also Camden Dist. He is probably a descendant of the James Kirkpatrick of Chester Co. SC but we have no proof of that. And what was his wife's surname. What books or libraries should I check, or what records, I have not worked in the Lancaster Co., SC area before. Carol (Gehrs) Mitchell, 134 Schnauzer Lane, Beaver Falls, PA 15010 <[email protected]> 724-847-4473 [using The Master Genealogist 3.5, WP8, Eudora]

I am looking for any information on the following BLACKs on the following SC censuses (in Lancaster County): 1800--Annanias, Charles, Hugh, Thomas, William; 1810--Hugh, John, Thomas; 1820--Annanias(not the same one as the 1800), Elinor, Hugh, John, Lydia; 1830--Annanias, Jane, Robert, Hugh (Sr.and Jr.), and John. I did not find any BLACKs in Lancaster County in the census index for 1840. My BLACKs were in Butler County, AL by 1840. Would anybody look in any book you own and see if any of them are even mentioned? I need a clue! My dream would be to find a marriage of a Robert Black to a Mary (?) around 1815-20. Thanks. Cheryll Sumner (Mobile, AL)

Sorry, McMichaels Creek was across a ridge from McAlpine Creek (also spelled McAurpiens and many other ways).

I am researching a William BROWN who purchased land on McMichaels Creek in the 1770 time frame. From other land descriptions I gather it empties into Sugar Creek and is across a ridge from McMichaels Creek. McMichaels Creek isn't listed in the Geographic Names Information System, but Clems Branch looks like it might be in about the right spot. Does anyone know the history of the creek names? Or know anything about this William Brown, for that matter <g>

Does anyone know the names of the early Lincoln Co. newspapers and their publishers and/or printers? This would be in the timeframe of about 1790 -1805. Even if you could supply me with the names of someone who could point me in the right direction, that would be great! I'm searching specifically for info on John Bain HOOD, who published the "Camden Intelligencer" (SC) in 1803 but who also was involved in some lawsuits in Lincoln Co. NC in 1804. These lawsuits have me wondering if he published in Lincoln Co., too. Or perhaps he published there prior to moving to TN. He was in TN by 1805, publishing a newspaper in Greene Co. TN. Another possibility is that the lawsuits, which seem to be about unpaid debts, could have arisen because his newspaper failed or he was buying supplies prior to moving to TN ca 1805 and he couldn't pay his bills. The abstracts of court records don't actually say he was a resident of Lincoln Co. at the time, but I need to get the actual documents to be sure. John was born in 1776 to Robert and Elizabeth HOOD, and I'd love to know where he learned his trade. Robert moved on to Washington Co. NC (which later became Greene Co. TN) ca 1780, but I don't really know where they lived prior to that -- could have been NC or SC. Evidently, John (and probably his brother William, who was a few years younger) must have been sent "back east" to learn the newspaper business, probably when Robert died in 1793. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Vickie Elam White