> Bil, I don't live in the area, but as a pharmacist and calligrapher, I'm pretty good at deciphering old census records. If it can be done from VA, I would love to help. Anne > > >

Count me in Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > I will add you to lust of interested people, if you like. If I get enough > people interested, we will decide the course. The one thing I have in mind > is a tool that a researcher can use to resolve 1850 questions. If you have > seen the Kershaw County 1850 espanded census, you will know my aims. > I have a Tabitha (Betty)PIERCE married to John MOTLEY/MOTLOW about 1781 in > Kershaw County. > > Don't see any Pierce in 1850 census. > > Bil > > From: "D J Peirce" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:54:12 -0400 > > This sounds very interesting, I'd like to examine it further...I find so > little about my families in Lancaster--but they were indeed there, as I have > found just enough to let me know that's where they lived. > Please explain a little more about it. It does sound super! > Doris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Brooks [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > > > > Bill, > > I, too, would like to see the expanded 1850 census also and would be glad to > contribute anything documented that I have. For a while I've wished there > were a place to connect up Lancaster Co. (AND Chesterfield information) > > You've mentioned the expanded Kershaw - where do you either access it or > purchase a copy? > > > Bil Brasington <[email protected]> wrote: > I threw out the idea to see if there is enough interest to persue. > Everytime I use the Kershaw Expanded 1850 I am so pleased with it as opposed > to when I check out the 1850 Lancaster. > > I would be looking to expand the 1850 with more data, full names, women's > maiden names, actual dates, etc. Any computer format with some indication > of its source. A lot can be derived by use of the 1860 census and cemetery > records but what I don't want is unattributed guesses. I have had too many > people say they got the "fact" from LDS or Family Tree Maker CD, which is > like saying I heard it from a neighbor. > > GEDCOM, Rich Text File, whatever. I can get the data into a format. I will > find a home for it on the net. > > Interested? > > Bil > > > From: "Lyn Brudnicki" > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:28:35 -0500 > > Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 > census? I'd love to see this project happen! > Evelyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bil Brasington" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM > Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > > > > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full > names > > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home > for > > it. > (snipped) > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >

Count me in. Frances -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census In a message dated 07/03/2000 10:40:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Do I see any other hands raised? I will be happy to do what I can. Carolyn Lowery Carter [email protected] PS have not forgotten Leonidas Lowry's military info, just slow.

Bil, How many volunteers have contacted you so far? You do know, of course, that you can count on me. Bill

My plan is to have it freely available on the net. Bil From: Sue Brooks <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 03:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Further on the 1850 expanded Lancaster Census - Are you planning a database that would be freely accessible to all - with the capability of being updated regularly and hosted somewhere like Rootsweb - or to be sold as the Kershaw 1850 expanded is. - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 07/03/2000 10:40:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Do I see any other hands raised? I will be happy to do what I can. Carolyn Lowery Carter [email protected] PS have not forgotten Leonidas Lowry's military info, just slow.

Further on the 1850 expanded Lancaster Census - Are you planning a database that would be freely accessible to all - with the capability of being updated regularly and hosted somewhere like Rootsweb - or to be sold as the Kershaw 1850 expanded is. - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.

hi, a nice lott-smith cousin sent me this, i thought you all might like to see it. june Family Thing > Someone I know sent this to me. It is a T-Shirt that has a 4 generation chart on the back of it so you can fill it in. I thought this would be a good idea for a family reunion. That way everyone can show their lineage on their T-Shirt so we don't get so confused. > > http://www5.icat.com/store/familything/index.icl?execute=itempg.icl&ITEMID=2 > >

Just sending this on. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Genealogy of John Barnwell, 1704-1880 Hello, South Carolina I was rummaging through one of my used book stores in Virginia this week and located a book that is of no personal interest to me, but would be a treasure to the right person. It is a fold-out chart of the genealogy of John Barnwell, 1704-1880, by Barnwell Rhett Heyward, A.B., L.L.B. It is a hard-cover book, the chart is printed on what appears to be heavy parchment paper. I found no date anywhere on this book, and it consists only of a raised family crest in full color (motto: Malo Moriquiary Foedari) and a very large fold-out genealogy. (If I recall it folds out into 9 or 12 oversize pages.) The book shop owner is asking $90.00 for it, but whispered to me that "we could talk." Please email me if this is something anyone might be interested in. Thanks, Nancy Pressley

Doris, I hope you don't mind my eavesdropping here, but I would be interested in the surnames that you're working on in the Lancaster County area. We might have some mutual interests. Bill Hughes [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bhughes/

I will add you to lust of interested people, if you like. If I get enough people interested, we will decide the course. The one thing I have in mind is a tool that a researcher can use to resolve 1850 questions. If you have seen the Kershaw County 1850 espanded census, you will know my aims. I have a Tabitha (Betty)PIERCE married to John MOTLEY/MOTLOW about 1781 in Kershaw County. Don't see any Pierce in 1850 census. Bil From: "D J Peirce" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:54:12 -0400 This sounds very interesting, I'd like to examine it further...I find so little about my families in Lancaster--but they were indeed there, as I have found just enough to let me know that's where they lived. Please explain a little more about it. It does sound super! Doris -----Original Message----- From: Sue Brooks [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Bill, I, too, would like to see the expanded 1850 census also and would be glad to contribute anything documented that I have. For a while I've wished there were a place to connect up Lancaster Co. (AND Chesterfield information) You've mentioned the expanded Kershaw - where do you either access it or purchase a copy? Bil Brasington <[email protected]> wrote: I threw out the idea to see if there is enough interest to persue. Everytime I use the Kershaw Expanded 1850 I am so pleased with it as opposed to when I check out the 1850 Lancaster. I would be looking to expand the 1850 with more data, full names, women's maiden names, actual dates, etc. Any computer format with some indication of its source. A lot can be derived by use of the 1860 census and cemetery records but what I don't want is unattributed guesses. I have had too many people say they got the "fact" from LDS or Family Tree Maker CD, which is like saying I heard it from a neighbor. GEDCOM, Rich Text File, whatever. I can get the data into a format. I will find a home for it on the net. Interested? Bil From: "Lyn Brudnicki" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:28:35 -0500 Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

This sounds very interesting, I'd like to examine it further...I find so little about my families in Lancaster--but they were indeed there, as I have found just enough to let me know that's where they lived. Please explain a little more about it. It does sound super! Doris -----Original Message----- From: Sue Brooks [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Bill, I, too, would like to see the expanded 1850 census also and would be glad to contribute anything documented that I have. For a while I've wished there were a place to connect up Lancaster Co. (AND Chesterfield information) You've mentioned the expanded Kershaw - where do you either access it or purchase a copy? Bil Brasington <[email protected]> wrote: I threw out the idea to see if there is enough interest to persue. Everytime I use the Kershaw Expanded 1850 I am so pleased with it as opposed to when I check out the 1850 Lancaster. I would be looking to expand the 1850 with more data, full names, women's maiden names, actual dates, etc. Any computer format with some indication of its source. A lot can be derived by use of the 1860 census and cemetery records but what I don't want is unattributed guesses. I have had too many people say they got the "fact" from LDS or Family Tree Maker CD, which is like saying I heard it from a neighbor. GEDCOM, Rich Text File, whatever. I can get the data into a format. I will find a home for it on the net. Interested? Bil From: "Lyn Brudnicki" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:28:35 -0500 Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.

Eleonore, Would you consider sending me these. Michael Van Winkle ----- Original Message ----- From: Eleonore Crespo <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > Yes, Bill, I would like to know also; would you want me to scan and send you > the pages of 1850 census that I have in my possession?(I copied some of them > at the Archives some years ago)Eleonore > >

Yes, Bill, I would like to know also; would you want me to scan and send you the pages of 1850 census that I have in my possession?(I copied some of them at the Archives some years ago)Eleonore

Bill, count me in......Beth Caldwell [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Bil Brasington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census >As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the >keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > >Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > >I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names >and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A >general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for >it. > >I volunteer to be the focus for the gathering of such a group, unless >someone else would like the task. GEDCOM to me and I would do the cutting >and pasteing. To be effective, I would like a source of the data. No need >to send just 1850 families, if you do not know who to subset your data. No >use building off of 4th or 5th hand data. Enough bad data out there (Rev >William Figures Brasington was NOT born in England but in Sumter County, SC) >not to mention bogus family connections. > >Do I see any other jands raised? > >Bil >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

You are right about that-but in spite of the penny a person and ink supplies-you have to admit we are all frustrated by the 1850 census. Frances -----Original Message----- From: Bil Brasington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census He was paid a penny a person and had to supply his own pen and ink supplies. Hard to be too critical. Bil From: "Frances" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:06:32 -0400 I think we ought to dig up the census taker and make him do the work over [email protected] Frances -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Brudnicki [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 7:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

> Price of Kershaw is about $30. EMaill Dallas Phelps for order info. > [email protected] > Price of the Kershaw Expanded 1850 Census is $45 Bill

Price of Kershaw is about $30. EMaill Dallas Phelps for order info. [email protected] I will put on my list. I think "critical mass" tp start is 20 people. Bil From: Sue Brooks <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Bill, I, too, would like to see the expanded 1850 census also and would be glad to contribute anything documented that I have. For a while I've wished there were a place to connect up Lancaster Co. (AND Chesterfield information) You've mentioned the expanded Kershaw - where do you either access it or purchase a copy? Bil Brasington <[email protected]> wrote: I threw out the idea to see if there is enough interest to persue. Everytime I use the Kershaw Expanded 1850 I am so pleased with it as opposed to when I check out the 1850 Lancaster. I would be looking to expand the 1850 with more data, full names, women's maiden names, actual dates, etc. Any computer format with some indication of its source. A lot can be derived by use of the 1860 census and cemetery records but what I don't want is unattributed guesses. I have had too many people say they got the "fact" from LDS or Family Tree Maker CD, which is like saying I heard it from a neighbor. GEDCOM, Rich Text File, whatever. I can get the data into a format. I will find a home for it on the net. Interested? Bil From: "Lyn Brudnicki" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:28:35 -0500 Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Bill, I, too, would like to see the expanded 1850 census also and would be glad to contribute anything documented that I have. For a while I've wished there were a place to connect up Lancaster Co. (AND Chesterfield information) You've mentioned the expanded Kershaw - where do you either access it or purchase a copy? Bil Brasington <[email protected]> wrote: I threw out the idea to see if there is enough interest to persue. Everytime I use the Kershaw Expanded 1850 I am so pleased with it as opposed to when I check out the 1850 Lancaster. I would be looking to expand the 1850 with more data, full names, women's maiden names, actual dates, etc. Any computer format with some indication of its source. A lot can be derived by use of the 1860 census and cemetery records but what I don't want is unattributed guesses. I have had too many people say they got the "fact" from LDS or Family Tree Maker CD, which is like saying I heard it from a neighbor. GEDCOM, Rich Text File, whatever. I can get the data into a format. I will find a home for it on the net. Interested? Bil From: "Lyn Brudnicki" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:28:35 -0500 Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" To: Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.

He was paid a penny a person and had to supply his own pen and ink supplies. Hard to be too critical. Bil From: "Frances" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:06:32 -0400 I think we ought to dig up the census taker and make him do the work over [email protected] Frances -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Brudnicki [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 7:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census Bill...do you want only families/connections of those appearing on the 1850 census? I'd love to see this project happen! Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Brasington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [SCLANCAS] 1850 Census > As all of us who have tried to work with the 1850, frustration is the > keyword. Kershaw County has published a great Expanded 1850 Census. > > Any interest in joining with me to do like wise? > > I see it is a huge GEDCOM, starting with the census and expanding full names > and adding dates and locations, marriage data, and military service. A > general research tool to be shared. I assume we can find an online home for > it. (snipped) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com