Brenda, My Grandparents- Fred Darling and Jesse Mae Steele-Darling My Great Grandparents marriage record goes like this, ( I thought I threw this paper away about 4 months ago and it was stuck somewhere around my desk, the fans blew it out.) I do keep a tidy house. ha. ha. No 345, Volume 11, Mr. Henry Steele and Miss Clara Shoemaker His Age 32 years, November 24, 1914 Her Age 18 years, July 15th, 1914 Residence Bainbridge, Ohio, Ross Co. Residence Bainbridge, Ohio, Ross Co. Place of Birth Paxton Twp, Ross Co Place of Birth Bainbridge, Ohio, Ross Co. Occupation Farmer Occupation Housekeeper Fathers Name John Steele Fathers Name Elijah Shoemaker Mothers Maiden Name Sarah Penwell Mothers Maiden Name Alice Peters My Great Great Grandparents John Steele and Sarah Penwell Elijah Shoemaker and Alice Peters I have been concentrating on DARLINGS, and have not made it past my great grandparents, William Darling and Ella Barnhart Darling, (she has at least 14 different recorded names. But concentrating on SHOEMAKER, there is a SAMUEL SHOEMAKER, in my 1870 census book, with a children (ELIJAH) listed as: PAXTON TWP; 116 SHOEMAKER, SAMUEL FARMER 40M -/110 OH ELIZA 25F KH OH JAMES 6M OH THOMAS 5M OH ELIJAH 3M OH HENRY 3/12M(FEB) OH I would have to verify this furthur, but this is what I have sofar. Judy P.s. I hope ya don't mind me posting this on the server too, there are quite a few others researching Shoemaker, and if mine don't fit, maybe this will help with someones SHOEMAKER who does, thank you. P.s.s. I am not apologizing for this being long. ha.ha. STAY COOL ---------- > From: MAGDEP16@aol.com > To: dreamer7@bright.net > Subject: Shoemaker Genealogy > Date: Sunday, June 21, 1998 11:45 PM > > Hello, > > I understand you are researching Shoemaker's in the Scioto Valley area. My > Shoemaker's started in PA, then moved to Scioto Co. before settling in Gallia > Co., OH. (Some of the family stayed in Scioto Co.) > > I would enjoy talking to you about this group if you have an interest. I have > quite a bit on the Shoemaker side. > > Brenda

hello everyone: i just wanted to say how sweet and conforting it is to have this digest available to me. i have written in a few times myself, needing help or offering to help. i recentally hooked up to roots web digest and it is awful. there is so much bickering and e-mails that come through to you at are hateful if you ask the wrong question. the subject matter in some areas isn't fit to talk about in a mixed croud. so i just wanted to say thank you for being such a sweet group of people and for keeping this digest clean and to the point of genealogy. take care and im glad i have this little space to come to..maggie coughlan

My GGrandfather was Abraham BRUBAKER/BREWBAKER and he lived in Benton Twp., Pike Co. Ohio as late as 1860. I could not find him in the 1870 census. He owned 200 acres of land and I was wondering the best way to get the record of his land purchase. Norma

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Does anyone no where Pine Creek in the Appel-Disterdick settlement was back in 1907. Will Born drowned in Pine Creek in 1907. Would like to find an obituary on him. Does anyone know if Frank Conrad or Will Appel are still in the Scioto County area. Would like to talk with them. Any information will help me out. Marlene

Does anyone have the 1990 census for Scioto County that is willing to do a look-up for me. I am looking for a John PENN and his wife Lula. John lived in Scioto County earlier in the 1890's. He went to TN in 1898/99 where he married Lula HOLT. I cannot locate him in TN in the 1900 census and need to know if he returned to OH. If anyone can check this for me I would be most appreciative. I do now have access to this census where I live. I meant 1900 Census

In a message dated 98-06-22 21:35:26 EDT, JPenn97930@aol.com writes: << Does anyone have the 1990 census for Scioto County that is willing to do a look-up for me. I am looking for a John PENN and his wife Lula. John lived in Scioto County earlier in the 1890's. He went to TN in 1898/99 where he married Lula HOLT. I cannot locate him in TN in the 1900 census and need to know if he returned to OH. If anyone can check this for me I would be most appreciative. I do now have access to this census where I live. >> John, I assume you meant 1890:) There is no 1890 cenus, most of it was destroyed by a fire. However there is a 1890 census, but it is only for those veterans who served in the civil war. Heather

to John PENN: in looking at your inquirey this morning, i noticed the surnames PENN and HOLT. although the years that i am giving you are much earlier than the ones your requesting, i though that i would send them, along to you anyway , in hopes that as you trace further back, there may be a connection. these PENN and HOLT families were in SCIOTO county, where the ones you mentioned were also from. the following came from the 1870 census for Scioto county OHIO> PENN,Charles township of Brush Creek page 368 PENN,Jerome same as above. PENN, Johnson township of Clay page 385 HOLT,Albert township of Portsmouth page 538 HOLT, Catherine township of Brush Creek page377 HOLT, David township of Nile page 480 HOLT,Elias township of Nile page 484 HOLT, Henry C. township of Brush Creek page 377 HOLT. Jackson township of Brush Creek page 380 HOLT, Jackson township of Nile page 482 HOLT,John township of Nile page 482 HOLT, Malon township of Portsmouth page 604 HOLT, Nathan township of Brush Creek page 379 HOLT< Sarah township of Brush Creek page 379 HOLT, Wesley township of Rush page 653 HOLT, Willian township of Rush page654 HOLTS(S) Joudloop township of Jefferson page 431 ill check cenmetery books and court records for you later on today, and will get back to you if i find anything. sincerely maggie Coughlan cogger48

Does anyone have any information on Harlan Ramey who was married to Sophia Williams? They had Willard and Bessie (Betty) Ramey. Sophia married Elba Shear in 1940 they didn't have any children. Would like to know who Elba's parents were. I think he died in 1975 does anyone have his obituary? Would like to get an obituary on Willard Ramey and Sophia Scherer Shear not sure of the spelling. Elba Shear was also married to Demmy (Freda May) Jenkins before he married Sophia they had 6 children. Any info will be helpful. Marlene

Does anyone have the 1990 census for Scioto County that is willing to do a look-up for me. I am looking for a John PENN and his wife Lula. John lived in Scioto County earlier in the 1890's. He went to TN in 1898/99 where he married Lula HOLT. I cannot locate him in TN in the 1900 census and need to know if he returned to OH. If anyone can check this for me I would be most appreciative. I do now have access to this census where I live. John Penn

New to the list. sent a query but didn't see it on the list. Will try again. Dodds, Bryson and Cratty families left Butler Co PA and moved to Scioto Co, Ohio in early 1800's. Buried in Mt. Joy and ?Harmony? cemeteries there. Presbyterian Ulster Scot families. I am searching for anyone researching these families. I am descended from Alexander Bryson who moved to Ohio and his son and daughter-in-law Margaret Dodds. I am not related to the Cratty's but this familiy was in the same church and migrated with my families and there may be some intermarriages. Please let me know if there is anyone working on these familiy lines. I would like to share info. Pattee

Paula: I would like to send the following info for you. (1) George STEWART, born abt 1750 in VA, son of James STEWART, JR., married to Elizabeth CRANSHAW/CROUSER/CROUSHAOR. Children: (1) Stephen STEWART, b: abt 1784 Scioto County, OH, married to Caroline DIDWAY on 23 Mar 1813. (My ggggrandparents) (2) Anna STEWART married David Atkins (3) Delilah STEWART married Rueben KELLY. (4) Elizabeth STEWART married William KIMBLE. (5) John Chilton STEWART born 7 Aug 1800 Scioto County, OH died abt mar 1871 in Lawrence County, OH, married Sarah Lavisa MCCARTNEY on 16 mar 1820. (6) Joel STEWART (7) Amos STEWART Of course I have quite a decendant's list for Stephen. Any further help with this listing will be appreciated. Also I need your e-mail and snail-mail address. Thanks, Kenneth ---------- > Kenneth, > If you're related to George Washington Stewart, then you are definitely > related to me. > >From which line exactly do your ancestors come from? I have tons of info on > several > lines of the Stewarts. I have my direct line plus the lines of several of > George's brothers and sisters. Maybe you can fill in some blanks for me and > I can for you. George's father name was John Chilton ( not Chaney ). He > married Sarah ( called Sally ) Lavisa McCartney on 3-16-1820. I have the > names of Sarah's parents and her brothers and sisters if you'd like them. > I'm at the library at least once every 2 weeks ( and that's if I'm busy ). > I look up things for other people I've met on the net all the time. If > there's something in particular you're looking for, let me know. If I > don't have it, I'll try to find it for you. The ladies at the library are > great about looking up things for people who can't get to the library. > Thanks for getting back in touch with me. Just let me know which line you > decend from and what you need on people. Hope to hear from you soon. > Paula Halterman >

Deanna Jones wrote: > > I was wondering which Montgomery line you are looking for. I know some > Montgomery families. There are several Montgomery families living in the > community that I live in. Whoever is looking for them, if you would like, > I will do a little research for you. I go to the health department quite a > bit and the library. I also look up marriages. Let me know if you are > interested. Deanna Jones > > ==== Scioto-Valley-OH Mailing List ==== > SCIOTO-VALLEY-OH-L@rootsweb.com includes the area covered by Jackson, Pike, Ross, > Scioto and Lawrence Counties in Ohio at any time. Queries, sources and family reports welcome! > (No GEDCOMS or ATTACHMENTS to email please!) Hello Deanna, Yes, I would dearly love to find my branch of Montgomerys in Portsmouth, OHio. I am looking for info on the WILLIAM H. H. MONTGOMERY who was born 1856, where? ma.MARY EMMA ROSS. He died at age 47, cause of death unknown. Occupation: Bricklayer, worked in the local brickyard. They had 6 children, one of them, Kathleen Montgomery ma. Chancy Ray Suffron, who owned a barber shop in Portsmouth. They, Kate and Chancy and one child,2 1/2 yrs. died within hours of each other and are buried all in one grave in Greenlawn Cemetery. My father, Roger, the only survivor was only 7 yrs. old and had to be raised by aunt and uncle living in the Cincinnati area. WILLIAM AND EMMA MONTGOMERY had other children, Elva and Elza, twins, Lillian Mae, Anna (dec.as a child), Harry(dec. at age 18). According to the 1900 census, Ohio, City of Portsmouth (Wayne Township)states William was born in ohio. Then a very shot obituary in the local paper states resedence was 465 East 6th St. Stated hw was well known in the city and was a brick layer by trade. Born Mar.13, 1856 and for past 15 yrs had been a resident of the city. Funeral took place at he Christian Church conducted by Rev. G.P. Taubman, pastor. I am trying to find related descendents and exchange information. I would like to find out where William was born and who were his parents. I am anxious to trace my Montgomery line back to Europe, if possible. There are still two original Montgomery's of this line still living besides myself, one in Wheelersburg and one in Fremont, CA. They are quite elderly but have given me some information but they do not have the answers to my questions mentioned here. Montgomery's are related to the Ross's also of Portsmouth. I have been told by a Ross cousin in Portsmouth that somehow the Montgomery family have a connection to the Sly family. Any help would be appreciated. Do you happen to know Betsy in the genealogical section of the Portsmouth Library. I have met her and she is most helpful. The last time we were there was 2 yrs ago but when you are traveling time is limited. I needed more time to find local people, who may have some clue or remember their grandparents stories. Many thanks again. If I have any information that may help someone else on these lines, I would be most willing to help them out with what I have. I can continue my branch on this line to the present. Happy hunting! Connie Backers, No. Calif.

I was wondering which Montgomery line you are looking for. I know some Montgomery families. There are several Montgomery families living in the community that I live in. Whoever is looking for them, if you would like, I will do a little research for you. I go to the health department quite a bit and the library. I also look up marriages. Let me know if you are interested. Deanna Jones

Hi, I'm Looking for any info on a samuel Unger and Elizabeth Kelly that lived in Scioto County around 1860 to 1870. Their daughter was my great Grandmother. Any one have anything on them? Thanks Linda Henize

In reference to MONTGOMERY inquirey: sorry im so long answering this. there were several MONTGOMERY"S in the 1870 census of Scioto county. if you want a list of themk all let me know, ill be happy to send them to you. in reference to William H. MONTGOMERY i found the following. W.H.H. MONTGOMERY in township of Portsmouth on page 544 in the court records book for scioto county i found the following on a William MONTGOMERY. he is mentioned in the will of George BELOAT in 1831, it mentions that Williams wife was nancyBLOAT MONTGOMERY who at the time of the will had already passed away. he wasen't eft anything in particular, i believe he was among those listed who shared the estate in general. William is also listed in the will of Michael LACROIX in 1834. it listed there that this mr.LACROIX's children were to live with William and his wife Hannah until they were of age. this is possible that Hannah was his 2nd wife Listed in a much larger will was the following, word for word: will of Matilda MONTGOMERY dated 23april1846. will written in jan, 1846 township of Porter Ohio dev; children of my deceased brother Abraham MONTGOMERY $1 each annually until 14 years.: mother Hannah MONTGOMERY, my interest in Mills situated on Pine creek: my niece Catherine M. LACROIX, nephew William LACROIX, a sister Melissa MCKEE. with John M> BERRY and Uri NURSE. AA paper in file, not dated or identified, has the names Ellis MONTGOMERY 1, Josephine MONTGOMERY 2, Hannah MONTGOMERY 4Elizabeth MONTGOMERY 5, Homer MONTGOMERY 6, William H. MOTGOMERY 6.(total 24) (my Note it could be the amounts given to the ch (probably children) of testators dec'd bro Abraham, showing their ages from 13-8.) will; of Hannah MONTGOMERY on 12oct1849 written 3sept1849 all to Melissa MCKEE who is also exec. witness Constantine FULLER and George W. FLANDERS it also ahow where MONTGOMERY"S had papers as guardians of the LACROIX children. ill check other 2 books and get bacl. aol has shuit down on me once and want to get this sent before it happens again and i loose all this and have to do it again.:) sincerely maggie coughlan cogger 48@aol.com

Regarding Pleasant WEBB family. On 1850 Census Ohio, Fayettte coounty the following WEBB family is depicted: Father: JohnsonWEBB born about 1810 Wife: Nancy ??? born about 1810 Daughter : Permelia WEBB born 23 Dec. 1836, Southern Ohio : died 22 Dec 1919 Shelby County Ohio Could this WEBB family be connected to your Pleasant WEBB ??? jJim Purnell mijnarf@aol.com

Can anyone supply additional information about Pleasant Webb and his family. Does anyone know who his parents were? Help? Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about 1762?. In 1880 his son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland. It is believed that he died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1803 he was in Scioto/Ross County, Ohio area and was said to be a notorious character, said to be a Tory during the Revolutionary War. Pleasant was in Greenup County, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830, he did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. A writeup on Scioto County, Ohio states that in 1803 Pleasant Webb murdered a man named Squires at the Licks and the salt boilers drove him away from Licks after his crime. It appears that Pleasant went into Greenup County, Kentucky. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown (Margaret?) BLACKWELL had the following children: James WEBB, Elias WEBB, Hanley WEBB, Aden WEBB, Temperance WEBB, William WEBB, Margaret WEBB, Sarah (Sally) WEBB, and Baker WEBB. ---------------------------------------------------------- Larry D. Loiselle dit Venet larry.loiselle@lords.com http://www.realtime.com/~moshabel

Passing along the tip.

The Probate court will have the birth & death certificates from 1867 at least, until 1908, December I think. After that most counties set up a Health dept to among other things, register the births & Deaths and forward the copies to the State dept of Health, Dept of Vital Statistics. So if you don't find the record at one (the cheapest) try the other.. My Great Grandfather's death certificate in 1920 couldn't be found at State VS, but when I walked into the Ross Co. Dept of Health and asked for a copy, they went and got it like they knew it was there! (he must have fallen the other way across the county line because most of the other "kin" were in Pike Co.) (actually he died in Richmondale, I was just being funny...) In OHIO Birth & Death records are SUPPOSED to be public records but the "officers of the court" can make it very difficult for you to look at them yourself. At OS=VR, they will xerox the certificate after you look up and give them the page & vol number (most of the time you must make an appointment to search their records and they will give you a 3 1/2 hours appointment in about two weeks time) After they let you look at the xerox copy, you must give it back to them usually they tear it up in front of you. If you wish a copy, you must pay them, they will make another copy, certify it if you wish (and are willing to pay for it) and mail it/them to you. Franklin County Health Dept told me that you have to make an appointment with the County Commissioners (I must say thought that you can obtain the copies while you wait and they don't charge for uncertified copies if you just ask for a few at a time) ...other counties are not as difficult, but all MUST give you some type of access, even if it is like Lawrence Co. used to be and they'd let you look One afternoon a week and there was no place to lay the books you had to stand and hold the book and try to make your notes, or sit on the floor in the hallway to look. I believe that is not the case now. Sorry, I didn't intend to get off on this again.... Carol