Ancestors Emily E. ZIMMERMAN m Henry RINELY in Ross Co. They owned property down Infirmary Road across the road from the Fairgrounds. I seem to remember that Emily's parents came from MD. Were they Andrew and M. Dresbach ZIMMERMAN? Did Emily have a brother Obadiah? I have a copy of the will from the Archives in Chillicothe. I have found another RINELY in Pike County - Peter RINELY. Were Henry and Peter siblings, related at all? Anyone with knowledge about these two families - please correspond. Related families: MACE, RIDGWAY Thanks, Susan Noel

Thanks to all who replied on the Athens county question, there is definately a connection, finding out things right now, will share with you too. The more I find the more puzzles, very interesting. Judy Lee

Thank you from the bottom of my heart, everyone, who replied to my census and mortality question. I saved them all. Was interesting to get just a few different responses. Will keep perusing them all, and will check out that example. There is so many nice people on this server, I just had to wake y'all up. ha. ha. Sincerely, Judy Lee

A Mortality Schedule Example -- Mortality schedules were recorded with each US Federal Census. This is why they are available in years like 1850, 1860, etc. One of the most noticable differences between mortality schedules and death record vitals from probate court are precinct and household information. To give you a better idea how this works, I'll use the 1870 Greenup County, KY Census and Mortality Schedule to give you both a visual and online example. If an individual died between 1 Jul 1869 and 30 June 1870 before and after the 1st of the year of the census, they should appear in the Mortality Schedule for that Census year. Connect to http://www.getaway.net/dsmith/mortality/1870/greenup.htm as an example. This is the 1870 Greenup Co., KY Mortality Schedule. Scroll down to the FIELDING surname and note that this family had a bad 1869-1870 year! You can be assured that each FIELDING is part of the same household since they all are listed from Precinct 5, Household 145 For those of you who don't want to make the connection, the deceased family members include John, age 15, died Oct 1869 of inflam of bowels; Maggie, age 4, died Feb 1870 of fever; and Owen, age 43, died Dec 1869 as he was thrown from a handcar on the RR. To find the associated family in the 1870 Greenup County, KY Census, you would jump to Precinct 5 and to household 145. Do that now by going to http://www.getaway.net/dsmith/vanbibber/1870grco.html. This is the 1870 Greenup Co., KY Census online (may take a few minutes to load as it's nearly 1 MB of text). Once again for those that don't want to bother with the connections, I'll list the output below. Household 147/145 FIELDING Margaret, 42 Patrick, 20 Mary, 22 James, 11 Henry, 13 Fannie, 09 You should note that Margaret is listed as the head of household and that Patrick is her son. If you hadn't already consulted with the Mortality Schedule, you would probably be wondering things like * Who is/was Margaret's husband * Why isn't he listed as the head of household * Who (if any) where children missing in ages between 20 and 13? The Mortality Schedule would answer all these questions. Thanks, Darrell Smith P.S. I only used the Fielding example because it was a good one. I do not have additional information on this family line. <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Darrell L. Smith dsmith@mis.net

There is a web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohathens/

There was a census for 1860, however many of the county lines changed between 1860 and 1870 post war. So you may have trouble finding relatives because the countiy lines changed - not because they moved. The 1890 census was mostly destroyed in a fire in 1921. What wasn't destroyed by the fire itself had severe water damage. There is very little of it left at all. The 1890 veteran's census was taken for statistical purposes at first, but since the original census is gone, most rely on it to locate families during that year. The 1890 census lists the veteran if they were still living, gives their mailing address city/state, and lists and present medical conditions related to military service. If the veteran is not living it often lists the widow who received the pension-if they are still living. Look in the files/microfilm for the location that the veteran enlisted - not their 1890 location. jk

According to the Handy Book for Genealogists, the mortality schedules usually cover (if they're available) 1850, 1860, 1880 and are supposed to include anyone who died 1 July, to 30 June before & after the 1st of the year of the census. i.e. 1 July 1859-30 June, 1860 Not all survived and not all are published. Hope this helps Carol ----------

Judy Lee, A census was conducted in the United States every 10 years beginning in 1790. Except for a few rolls, the 1890 census was destroyed by fire. Someone may check me if I am wrong but the mortality index is a list of persons who died the year before the census was taken. Ralph Scioto-Valley-OH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > Scioto-Valley-OH-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 159 > > Subject: Gen. Question, Years 1860 and 1890 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:08:05 -0400 > From: "Judy Lee Nichols" <dreamer7@bright.net> > To: Scioto-Valley-OH-L@rootsweb.com > > I was told that there wasen't any censuses done in these 2 decades, 1860 & > 1890. > > 1890, because they did the Civil war one then. I am pretty sure for this > one. > > Was there one that I am not aware of done in 1860, statewide? Or a special > one for Ross County, maybe bookform. > > Would anyone have access to this information. > > Also, this might sound dumb, but what is a mortality index, I suppose, its > a list of all people who lived and gone, and I think there is one on Ohio > or maybe a county for the period of 1860. Well anyway, the reason I am > asking, is I thought I seen one on Ohio, that costs money to buy, and I am > one who believes genealogy should be free. or at least capped at a certain > level. > > I bought the familytreemaker long time ago, and returned it because I > thought it costs too much, then I asked for one for x-mas and got it, and > for a long time couldn't find anything on it, til recently, of some > ancestors in SHelby county, but you know, now they got bundles 8-12 and 13 > thr 17, for 59.95 each; I haven't bought , so thats more money to boot, if > you want to access these, plus all the subscribtion things on net. > > I suppose some libraries loan genalogy cds, but ours doesn't in Logan > county. > > Would anyone have access to this info, the mortality index question, before > I got sidetracked. ha. ha.. > > I graciously thank you. > > Judy Lee Fry-Nichols > > Good day, y'all -- Ralph Hayes searching among others Hayes, Earles, Clonch, 10533 Crestridge Ct, NW Sullivan, Arthur, Thacker, Blankenship, Dillon, Albuquerque, NM 87114 Stubbs, Maddock, Hite, Doss, Elix and Booker alternate e-mail may be sent to rlhayes@juno.com My ancestor must be in a witness protection program! Whoever said Seek and Ye shall find was NOT a genealogist!

Is there a mail server or a genealogy hotspot page for Athens county, the only thing I have seen is Genealogy chapter for Athens county. Thanks, Judy

I was told that there wasen't any censuses done in these 2 decades, 1860 & 1890. 1890, because they did the Civil war one then. I am pretty sure for this one. Was there one that I am not aware of done in 1860, statewide? Or a special one for Ross County, maybe bookform. Would anyone have access to this information. Also, this might sound dumb, but what is a mortality index, I suppose, its a list of all people who lived and gone, and I think there is one on Ohio or maybe a county for the period of 1860. Well anyway, the reason I am asking, is I thought I seen one on Ohio, that costs money to buy, and I am one who believes genealogy should be free. or at least capped at a certain level. I bought the familytreemaker long time ago, and returned it because I thought it costs too much, then I asked for one for x-mas and got it, and for a long time couldn't find anything on it, til recently, of some ancestors in SHelby county, but you know, now they got bundles 8-12 and 13 thr 17, for 59.95 each; I haven't bought , so thats more money to boot, if you want to access these, plus all the subscribtion things on net. I suppose some libraries loan genalogy cds, but ours doesn't in Logan county. Would anyone have access to this info, the mortality index question, before I got sidetracked. ha. ha.. I graciously thank you. Judy Lee Fry-Nichols Good day, y'all

My great grandmother was ANNA NICHOLS born in IRONTON,LAWRENCE CO, OHIO. She married Samual Steen (don't have a date or place as no marriage record is found in Lawrence Co.) and in 1900 they had a daughter Alma Irene Steen born in Franklin Co, Ohio ( No birth record yet located there). Looking for leads, ideas or information on NICHOLS families in the area.

This is my brick wall. Any information on any of these names is greatly appreciated. Surnames: Shufflin, Collins, Hatch, Nicholson, Seay, Strayer, Bohen, Smithberger, Murphy, Johnson, Prudy, Patton, Sullivan, Green, Neville, Reilly, Jones Dates: 1793 - 1960's 1 James SHUFFLIN Born: Abt. 1793 +Nancy Ann UNKNOWN Born: Abt. 1791 2 Jane SHUFFLIN Born: Abt. 1837 2 Terry SHUFFLIN Born: Abt. 1815 (1840 Allegany Co.,NY; 1850 Wyoming Co., NY) 2 James SHUFFLIN, Jr. Born: Abt. 1829 2 John SHUFFLIN Born: 1831 in New York Died: 1915 +Nancy COLLINS Born: in Ireland 3 Francis Sylvester SHUFFLIN Born: 1860 Died: March 31, 1938 +Olive Leah HATCH Born: January 22, 1871 in Fagundas, PA Married: January 17, 1893 in Pittsburgh, PA Died: December 08, 1937 in Elk Township, Noble County, OH 4 Paul Henry SHUFFLIN Born: June 21, 1907 in Marietta, OH Died: January 1974 +Helen NICHOLSON Born: October 26, 1915 Died: January 1991 4 Francis Wilfred SHUFFLIN Born: 1896 Died: 1968 +Marguerite Helen SEAY Born: 1894 Died: 1960 5 Theodore SHUFFLIN Born: 1921 Died: 1921 5 Patricia Annette SHUFFLIN Born: 1922 +Harold Harrison STRAYER, Jr. Born: 1921 5 Jeanne Elizabeth SHUFFLIN Born: 1925 +Richard Thomas BOHEN Born: 1922 Died: 1967 4 Nancy Leah SHUFFLIN Born: 1910 4 John Hatch SHUFFLIN Born: 1894 Died: 1966 +Elinor SMITHBERGER Died: 1966 5 Thomas Smithberger SHUFFLIN Born: 1920 +Kay JOHNSON 5 Michael F. SHUFFLIN Born: 1926 +Martha MURPHY 5 Robert John SHUFFLIN Born: 1931 +Delores PRUDY 3 Matthew Vincent SHUFFLIN Born: December 22, 1870 in Wyoming County, NY Died: April 23, 1937 in Marietta, Washington County, OH +Maud PATTON 3 Ann SHUFFLIN Born: 1853 Died: 1927 +Henry SULLIVAN 3 Thomas SHUFFLIN Born: 1855 Died: 1922 +Mary GREEN 3 Christopher SHUFFLIN Born: 1858 +Mary SULLIVAN 3 John SHUFFLIN Born: 1862 +Margaret NEVILLE 3 Mary Theresa SHUFFLIN Born: 1865 Died: 1929 +John REILLY 3 Michael Bonaventure SHUFFLIN Born: 1867 Died: 1937 +Genevieve Eighmy JONES

Heather: Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Here is what info I have on Stephen's family. Hope you or someone can help me out with any of the names: Stephen STEWART, b: abt 1784 in Scioto County, OH, d: 1867 in Massac County, IL, married on 23 Mar 1813 in Scioto County, OH, to Caroline DIDWAY, b: 22 Oct 1796 in Belpre, OH, d: 1 Oct 1861 in Massac County, IL. She is buried in our family cemetery in Massac County. Their children were: Levina STEWART married to Joseph KELLEY Julia A. STEWART married to Robert T. RAPOLE Manley L. STEWART Amos STEWART Pernina STEWART Lucinda STEWART Sophia STEWART James L. STEWART William M. STEWART, b: abt 1817 in Scioto County, OH, married to Cynthia CHAPMAN Riley STEWART, b: 9 Feb 1819 in Belpre, OH, d: 5 Mar 1871 in Massac County, IL married to Rebecca DEARMITT (my ggggrandparents) Flora E. STEWART, b: 25 Mar 1833, d:18 Dec 1870, married to Franklin CHICK John P. STEWART, b: abt 1834 in Scioto County, OH, married to Mary C. BOWLES Would appreciate any and all information you can find on any of the above. Kenneth R. Searles Huntsville, KY

Anyone with any information about the RENOUD family from Scioto Co. whatever, please contact me. Have info. to share. Also searching, Bateman, Davis, Emmitt, Gross Miller & Wallrodt all families from the Scioto Valley area. Happy hunting . John Emmitt

I'm drowning in Davis's.......lots of good Biblical names.... Solomon ---- David --- Philemon ---- Ananias and there's a lot of SARAHs.....wives and daughters! Is there anyone out there who can help me sort them out?? For instance -- there's Sarah Ann Davis who married (1843) Joseph Chalfin Their son was Philemon Carey Chalfin...... who were HER parents??? grandparents?? Just "the thing" for a long, lazy, hot summer afternoon!! Phyllis in HOTlanta...a Buckeye transplanted down here in the deep south!

On the genealogical hotspot website for Ross County, the marriage records go up to 1850. I have a book for 1876-1900 for marriages in Ross County. NEED MARRIAGE RECORD BETWEEN 1850 AND 1876. I need someone to please lookup William Darling married to a Hannah Kidney, Richmondale/Ross. She had a child Alvin Darling who only lived a month. She passed away 1-27-1876 with Puerperal Fever according to records. She would have been 18. They would have married between 1850 and 1876. Is there records for this timeframe. It might help solve a mystery. I have been figuring WILLIAM DARLING to have been born circa 1866, but it would have to been earlier, if he married Hannah Kidney. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Judy Lee Fry Nichols I am planning on posting all my information on all these names and more on the internet, I have almost 200 people on FAMILYTREEMAKER. Researching HUGHES, WILKINSON, WILGUS, NICHOLS, Logan & Champaign county. Researching COVAULT, fort Covault or Covault station, cincinnati area. my ancestor was Captain Abraham Covault who was in Revolutionary War. Researching FRY, Miami, Shelby, Greene, Logan, counties Researching BAKER, Germany, Virginia, Shelby county Researching STEELE, SHOEMAKER, DARLING, PETERS, PENWELL, MERRIMAN, BARNHART, HART, CHILDERS, Ross, Jackson, Fayette counties.

AlvinDarling,d. 3-17-1876 age at d., 1 month, cause-croup, Apparently, William Darling, was married to Alvins' mother, Hannah Kidney, in Richmondale, Hannah Darling, d. Jan. 27, 1876, age - 18 years, cause-puerperel fever George W. Darling, d. 5-1-1895 age at d., 5 days, cause-unknown, John Darling, d.Sep. 23, 1891 age at d., 1 month, 7 days, cause-thursh Wm. Jasper Darling, d. Oct. 10, 1885 age at d., 11 days, cause-unknown Darlin, d. Jan 10, 1881, stillborn Darling, d. Jan 25, 1880, deadborn Darling, d. Dec 5, 1881, stillborn Darling, d. Sept. 25, 1895, stilllborn

Carl Frederick SPRAY and family immigrated from Germany in 1845 and settled in Scioto County by 1850. Some of his Sons later established families in at least Athens, Hocking, Gallia and Scioto Counties. Is anyone else out there researching this family? Don Clark Millersville MD

The Dodds family came from Butler, PA to Delaware Co around 1814 or 1815. Lived in Little Mill Creek near the future Edinburg area. Dodds attended the Delaware Presbyterian church but had to cross the Scioto, so then established a meeting house at Darby in Union co. Later several families set up the Presbyterian Church of Radnor in 1816 and went on to other churches. Some families in Scioto Co....Orr and Fry famiies married into Dodds line. Anybody familiar with this or researching these lines? Pattee

The genealogical society sent me marriage records, BOOK COPY of HENRY STEELE and CLARA SHOEMAKER, ON THIS SAME PAGE IS OTHER NAMES, IF YOUR INTERESTED OR RESEARCHING THESE NAMES, I WILL E-MAIL IT TO YOU. MILTON SMALLWOOD AND ANNA BELLEE MAXWELL SAMUEL McNEAL AND MORA MORTIMER CHARLES RILEY AND ?WANDA McCAFFERTY