I just read the message I sent. The fingers were working faster than the brain. Catharina Sophia STARKEN was from Hamburg, but I think more likely Neumunster, Born: 3 Dec. 1951 Died: 2 Mar. 1937 in Chicago, Illinois USA Obviously Catharina was not born 3 Dec 1951. It should have read 3 Dec 1851. While she was a special lady, even she couldn't have been born after she died. Lois Mack Schill her embarrassed great-granddaughter