I have some Mohn's in my family back to the 1600s but they are from Switzerland. Do you go back that far? Valerie sdmperlists@broadrunit.com wrote: I haven't posted for awhile. I'm still trying to find where my great grandfather, Henry (Heinrich) Lotz came from in Holstein. I have some circumstantial evidence that indicates he had two brothers or otherwise close relations in California at the same time. I have not found parents or origin for any of the three as yet other than Holstein. I am close to exhausting the possible sources. I haven't gotten Jacob's death certificate as yet and there is an obit for Henry I need to send for. I had hoped to get copies of Frank and Jacob's declarations of intent to become a citizen, but these were filed in the state court in San Francisco. All of these records were lost in the 1906 earthquake and fire. You will notice that I have found Frank and Henry in the ship passenger arrival lists at the National Archives. Maybe there are departure records in some European Archive? I do have my great grandmother's origin which is Seestermuehe, Holstein, Germany. This is a small place near Elmshorn. Are there parish records or census lists for this place? Where would these be found? Everyone left for America before 1870 so I'm not interested in records after that date. My great grandmother's name could be Laura Augusta Mohn. Most records name her Geesche Mohn. In the 1880 census she is Augusta and in the 1900 census she is Laura. Details on this web page: http://sdmbizlists.home.infionline.net/LotzGene.html Descendants of Frank Lotz 1 Frank Lotz b: Jan 1843 Holstein, Germany d: 6 Jun 1921 Santa Clara Co Alms House, Santa Clara Co, CA Immigration: 20 Sep 1865 Age 19, Occ Laborer, Embark: Marseilles; Debark: New York; Ship: Germania, H. Ehlers master Naturalization: 30 Apr 1873 Lotz, Franz; Vol. 13, P-4468; US DC SF .. +Catherine Diestel b: Mar 1853 Holstein, Germany m: 12 Sep 1874 in San Francisco, CA d: 31 Mar 1920 San Jose, Santa Clara Co, CA Immigration: 28 Aug 1867 Age 22; Embark: Bremen, Debark: New York; Ship: Laura .... 2 Martha Lotz b: Abt. 1875 California d: 30 May 1910 Alameda Co, CA ........ +Adolph Lorsbach b: Bet. 1879 - 1881 m: 25 Mar 1893 in San Francisco, CA d: Bet. 9 Apr 1926 - 9 Apr 1928 Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Son Lorsbach b: 20 Jul 1895 Fruitvale, Oakland, Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Daughter Lorsbach b: 15 Jan 1897 Fruitvale, Oakland, Alameda Co, CA .... 2 Frank John Lotz b: 27 Dec 1876 California d: 10 Mar 1944 San Francisco, CA ........ +Susan S Flinn b: 22 Aug 1874 Pennsylvania m: Abt. 1903 d: 2 Jun 1962 San Francisco, CA Father: Edmond Flinn Mother: Catherine Turner .......... 3 Helene C Lotz b: Abt. 1904 California .............. +Elwood Ericksen b: 8 Oct 1897 California m: Abt. 1927 d: 13 Dec 1966 San Francisco, CA .......... 3 Frank John Lotz b: 10 Oct 1906 San Francisco, CA d: 4 Nov 1956 Los Angeles, CA Descendants of Jacob Lotz 1 Jacob Lotz b: Jan 1841 Holstein, Germany d: 11 Mar 1905 Alameda Co, CA Immigration: 1863 Naturalization: 30 Apr 1873 Vol. 13, P-4469; US District Court San Francisco; Witnesses: John H. Bester and Franz Lotz .. +Annie Kolin b: Sep 1842 Holstein, Germany m: 7 Mar 1869 in San Francisco, CA d: 10 Mar 1877 San Francisco, CA .... 2 Annie H Lotz b: 28 Feb 1869 d: 11 Aug 1950 Alameda Co, CA ........ +Hiram P Preston b: Mar 1863 Canada m: Abt. 1888 d: 17 Mar 1907 Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Dean Bradley Preston b: 10 Jan 1890 California d: 1 Jun 1947 Alameda Co, CA .............. +Norma C b: Abt. 1900 New York m: Bet. 1910 - 1920 Descendants of Henry Lotz 1 Henry Lotz b: 15 Jan 1845 Holstein, Germany d: 23 Sep 1899 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Immigration: 2 Oct 1865 Age 17, Occ Farmer; Embark: Marseilles; Debark: New York; Ship: Allemannia, N. Trautmann master .. +Geesche Mohn b: 14 Jul 1845 Seestermuehe, Holstein, Germany m: Abt. 1871 in San Francisco, CA d: 28 Jul 1921 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Father: Andreas Mohn Mother: Margaret ? Immigration: 6 Jun 1870 Age 19; Embark: Bremen, Debark: New York; Ship: Weser .... 2 Laura Lotz b: 6 Aug 1876 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA d: 12 May 1943 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, CA .... 2 Lena Lucille Lotz b: 25 Jan 1878 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA d: 6 May 1944 Oakland, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA ........ +John Daniel McLeod b: 22 Apr 1873 Pictou Co, NS d: 10 Mar 1959 Veterans Hosp, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA Father: Charles Harrington MacLeod Mother: Hannah McLeod .......... 3 George Robert McLeod b: 12 May 1908 Oakland, Alameda Co, CA d: 20 Mar 1991 Silver Spring, Montgomery Co, MD Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://smcleod.home.infionline.net/ genealogy@broadrunit.com ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm