This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kVC.2ACE/3499.2 Message Board Post: Verna, the town where Heinrich Giese was born is correctly spelled Schönberg and is located in the administrative district (in German: Kreis) of Plön in Holstein. Krokau is located in the same "Kreis". Note that both Schleswig and Holstein belonged to Denmark until 1864. Heinrich Giese was thus born in Schönberg, Holstein, Denmark, and Peter Giese in Krokau, Holstein, Denmark. I think you might find the following web page useful (English at the bottom of the page): http://www.kirchenkreis-segeberg.de/familienforschung/index.html Robert