Hello Ivan, My grgrandfather was friends with a Baron Detlev von Liliencron in Hamburg - Rahlstedt, where he died and is buried a few feet away from my kin's grave. This Detlev was born in 1844 in Kiel, died 1909. I have a little booklet on him in German. He was Soldier, Vogt in Pellworm and Kellinghusen and a much revered Poet. I have his birth certificate printed in a book, easy to read. I realize that he is not the one you are looking for, but thought that there might be a connection. He could have been a namesake of a relative 2 generations before? If your Detlev died in 1749 he was only about 25 years old. I wonder how he became Rittmeister and Master of Schirnau at such an early age. Inherited the lot? I went to familysearch but somehow only came up with what I had. I wonder how Ron did get 13 Liliencron's. I know someone who might be able to give me more info backwards on my Detlev . Am going to Germany in 5 weeks. Let me know what you think. Margarete Crossland AZ

I have an obituary that includes information about a Claus Rohwedder, born March 17, 1845 in Von-der-Geist. I can not find any reference to Von-der-Geist. The obituary also states that he immigrated to American in 1866 and from the ships register for the Germania we find a: C. Rohwedder, age 21, from Grossenrade which I believe is S.E. of Meldorf. He was a stone mason and he could have been living at Grossenrade when he emigrated from Schleswig-Holstein....which could explain the difference. Can anybody help me with deciphering the reference to Von-der-Geist. Danke Dean Rohweder

Dear Dean, my comment to your research for the birthplace of Claus Rohwedder is: "Von-der-Geist" probably means "Von der Geest". As you know that the County of Dithmarschen is devided into the flat area called "Marsch" and the hilly area called "Geest". Some towns have had different administrations like Meldorf-Marsch and Meldorf-Geest. So the name Geest gives not a town name. As you can see from my list of Rohwedder-emigrants in http://genealogy-sh.com/timm/index.htm that Rohwedder families lived in some towns of Dithmarschen County. The passenger lists of the port Hamburg show the last residence of the emigrants, not the birthplace. Gro?enrade belongs to the parish of Suderhastedt. Therefore my recommendation is to start your research at Suderhastedt and continue at the parishes along the border between Marsch and Geest, like Meldorf, Nordhastedt, Burg in Dithm. and Albersdorf. Good luck Klaus Timm -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: G. Dean Rohweder [mailto:rohwedgd@dpc.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2004 05:22 An: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: [S-H-RTS] Von-der-Geist I have an obituary that includes information about a Claus Rohwedder, born March 17, 1845 in Von-der-Geist. I can not find any reference to Von-der-Geist. The obituary also states that he immigrated to American in 1866 and from the ships register for the Germania we find a: C. Rohwedder, age 21, from Grossenrade which I believe is S.E. of Meldorf. He was a stone mason and he could have been living at Grossenrade when he emigrated from Schleswig-Holstein....which could explain the difference. Can anybody help me with deciphering the reference to Von-der-Geist. Danke Dean Rohweder

I am searching for the following names and towns in the county of Dithmarschen, if anyone can help on confirmation and or family members researching the same names and towns. That is without passing the buck to some lame U.S. website. Names and Towns are as follows; Eggert MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH Margaretha ROHWEDDER of a/a Jurgen Hinrich MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH, born; 1825 Heinke Margaretha SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH, born; 1822 (or SCHOODT) Claus SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH Anna Catherina ROHOTE of a/a Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTENS of Leith bei Heide SH, born;1846 Regards Tony Martens (and in German) Sorry if my german is a bit off, I am very rusty. Ich suche nach den folgenden Namen und den Städten in der Grafschaft von Dithmarschen, wenn jedermann auf Bestätigung und oder den Familie Mitgliedern helfen, welche kann die gleichen Namen und Städte erforschen. Das ist, ohne den Dollar zu irgendeiner lahmer Vereinigte Staaten Web site zu führen. Namen und Städte sind wie folgt; Eggert MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH Margaretha ROHWEDDER von a/a Jurgen Hinrich MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH, geboren; 1825 Margaretha SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide SH, geboren; 1822 (oder SCHOODT) Klaus SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide Anna Catherina ROHOTE von a/a Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTEN/S von Leith bei Heide SH, geboren;1846 Respekt Tony Martens

I'm not sure what "a/a" means after Margaretha Rohwedder in your posting. However I do have a Margaretha Rohwedder, daughter of Marx Johannsen Rohwedder and Catherine Dethmann. Marx and Catherine emigrated from Gaushorn, Diethmarchen, Schleswig-Holstein in 1852 with six or seven children. Margaretha was the first one born in the USA, in Cook County, Il in 1854. So she may be a namesake of another Margaretha Rohwedder. In some information that came from a researcher in Germany there is a Margareta Rohwedder born 31 March 1820 in Wrohm Ksp.,Tellingstedt,Holstein. She is the sister of the above mentioned Marx Johannsen Rohwedder. Let me know if you think this connects. I'll be happy to send you what info I have. Martha Lawlor Georgetown, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony@Martens" <martens@ihug.com.au> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Von-der-Geist > I am searching for the following names and towns in the county of > Dithmarschen, if anyone can help on confirmation and or family members > researching the same names and towns. That is without passing the buck to > some lame U.S. website. > > Names and Towns are as follows; > > Eggert MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH > Margaretha ROHWEDDER of a/a > > Jurgen Hinrich MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH, born; 1825 > Heinke Margaretha SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH, born; 1822 (or SCHOODT) > > Claus SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH > Anna Catherina ROHOTE of a/a > > Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTENS of Leith bei Heide SH, born;1846 > > Regards > Tony Martens > > (and in German) > Sorry if my german is a bit off, I am very rusty. > Ich suche nach den folgenden Namen und den Städten in der Grafschaft von > Dithmarschen, wenn jedermann auf Bestätigung und oder den Familie > Mitgliedern helfen, welche kann die gleichen Namen und Städte erforschen. > Das ist, ohne den Dollar zu irgendeiner lahmer Vereinigte Staaten Web site > zu führen. > Namen und Städte sind wie folgt; > Eggert MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH > Margaretha ROHWEDDER von a/a > Jurgen Hinrich MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH, geboren; 1825 > Margaretha SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide SH, geboren; 1822 (oder SCHOODT) > Klaus SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide > Anna Catherina ROHOTE von a/a > Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTEN/S von Leith bei Heide SH, geboren;1846 > > Respekt > Tony Martens > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm >