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    1. [S-H-RTS] Truchsess
    2. Don Buchwald

    3. I've been doing German research (especially German nobility) for about 10 years and I don't ever recall coming across a title of Truchsess. Can you tell me what the equivalent English is? For example, Koenig is King, Koenigin is Queen, Graf is Count or Earl, Graefin is Countess. Or did you mean that Truchsess is a name, like von Buchwald or von Ahlefeldt, etc.? Assuming it is a title of nobility, how would one translate: Franz Eusebius, Graf Truchseß? Does this mean Franz Eusebius was given two titles -- Count and ?? Is Truchsess perhaps more common in Austria? Don Buchwald ----- Original Message ----- From: <Waldtraute@webtv.net> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] I'm searching for.... > Hello,Truchsess is a german title of nobility. > > servus,tschuess,baba austrian by > chance, AMERICAN by CHOICE, > VIENNESE FOREVER > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

    03/04/2004 01:44:45
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Truchsess
    2. Michael Kohlhaas

    3. Hello, Truchseß (Truchsess) was the chairman of a court-administration (today civil-servant?), as well a supervisor of the dinner-table. etymology: truhtsaesze i.e. [old-Germ.=Germ.=Engl.] truht= Trupp=troop and sazo=sitzen=to sit A supervisor of a little troop. Sasse: a place of possession, yard or a person who lives on a this place Regards Michael

    03/05/2004 12:32:27
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Truchsess
    2. Don Buchwald

    3. Thanks for the explanation, Michael. It doesn't sound as though Truchsess would be considered a title of nobility, though, if the equivalent is civil servant. Don Buchwald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kohlhaas" <MKohlhaas@t-online.de> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Truchsess > Hello, > Truchseß (Truchsess) was the chairman of a court-administration > (today civil-servant?), as well a supervisor of the dinner-table. > etymology: truhtsaesze i.e. [old-Germ.=Germ.=Engl.] truht= Trupp=troop > and sazo=sitzen=to sit > A supervisor of a little troop. > Sasse: a place of possession, yard or a person who lives on a this place > > Regards > Michael > > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > >

    03/04/2004 03:54:56