Diana, This really is interesting, maybe we could have a connection! My grt. grandfather, and his 2 bro. in laws all lived in Omaha for a few years too. I do know of a niece that came to live with my grandfather's family, Minni Prus, which a cousin of my father's has told me. She died and was supposedly buried in the German cemetery in Plainview, NE but I can't find any record of that back in 1898 or so. But I don't recall a nephew coming I think this lady did say a brother to this girl came to Omaha but have tried to trace that too. Their mother had died in Germany and the father did not have means to care for them. I don't know what the cause of death was for Minni. I live in Omaha and have not found anything and have checked. Plainview, Ne is my original home town so I have searched it. I don't know how they could have been related to this grt. grandfather either, it could be on many sides. My grt grandfather's family Hinrich Lorenz b. 1846, his wife Louise Kuhl, as follows: his parents, Detlev Holm Lorenz and wife Christina von Stamm (her second marriage) Their children: Anna, Detlev Holm married Antje Dresen,Matthias, Peter, Christina, and my grt. grandfather Hinrich. (Christina married a Hans Graves and lived in Co. Bluffs, IA, but don't know anything about the rest. The first marriage of Christina also had 5 children: Antje,Friedrich,Thoms,Trienke married twice,and Hans. So really could be any of these families. This info from Detlev's death record. I have communicated with many of Christina, the child's family, in IA too. Then the Wulf family was Nicolaus Wulf b. 1846, wife Amalia Kuhl, Nicolaus's family : parents Claus of Hennstedt and Catharina Husted Wulf (of Delve) Magdalena and Claus Johann died as infants, Catharina Magdelena married Johann Mueller, Maria, Nicolaus - my grt grandfather, Hermann came to OH, Ferdinand Dierck supposedly came to OH too but can't trace him for sure. Some of the Wulfs changed the spelling to Wolf and was sometimes in Germany Wulff. This info from Claus's death record. I have communicated with Hermann's family still in Ohio. I had a researcher get most of this info for me since the Family History Center has not filmed this area. They have a film that is like a church census which is what I started with. Then the researcher went from there. I do need to see if I can get some more records as I have some holes in my tree that are still not filled. Any connections let me know, I will let the sting attached so we can look back, Jan Kokrda in Omaha Your message: I just read my Great Grandfathers story again and on his immigration records it has him going to Illinois. and in his story it has them ending up in Omaha, Nebraska living with and Uncle for two months. and in Nebraska is were his sister left her son with him and then disappeared. From their he went to Minnesota, Washington State, Idaho and back to Washington State were he died in Spokane, Washington. So the Uncle must have moved to Nebraska, your story of your Family in Illinois and them moving to Nebraska is so much the same story in my Great Grandfathers story. Your Family went to Nebraska in 1880 and my Family in 1883. ( maybe we are related and maybe not, but it sounds fishy) I got Johan Peters birth date from the record my cousin Rose has, I think it was a vaccination record and he was age 11 in 1835. and I got Webka Margaretha ? from her head stone in Leland, Idaho. I will have to email Rose and see what she thinks about this. Diana Howell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Kokrda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] Peters Family > Diana, > > I have been searching and reading your e-mail about Peters family and > trying > to piece it to my ancestors from the Hennstedt and Schlichting area. > And I did have a great grandfather that lived in Illinois from 1872-1881. > His name was Hinrich Lorenz. He was related to Carstens, Wulfs, > and Kuhls in the Hennstedt area. He had many older Lorenz siblings of > which > I have never been able to trace as only 2 came to the US that I know > about. > But somewhere I have something that has a Peters as a baptism sponsor or > something but have looked through and can't find it. > > I have this website which contains census from S-H and maybe you can piece > together some info for your family. I did find all my ancestors listed > since I knew where they came from. Where did you find the info for the > birth records of Webka and Johan? > > Hinrich Lorenz's wife was a Kuhl, Hinrich being from Schlichting, and in > the > Wulf line Nicolaus Wulf was married to a Kuhl also and the Wulf's were > from > Hennstedt. So we are searching from the same area. Lorenz's came to > Chicago and were married there, Wulf's went to Pt. Clinton, OH and then > all > came to Nebraska around 1880. > > This is the census website that has many Peters from this area. Put in > Hennstedt in first location think it is dorf - place. The year can be set > too and > the 1860 yeaar is about the last that had most info on Peters. We wish it > was completed further. But it is something to work with if you know more > about your Peters family. This is the website : > http://danishgenealogy.homestead.com/danishgenealogy.html Go to the > bottom > where it is listed as > Schleswig-Holstein Census. > > Janis Lorenz Kokrda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry and Diana Howell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:52 PM > Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] Peters Family > > >> Hoping some one has New info on the Peters Family >> >> My G - G - GrandMother Webka Margaretha (Family Name Unknown) born Aug >> 1835 Germany, was married to Johan Peters born about 1824 in >> Schleswig-Holstein and died their. >> >> Webka and her children got a letter from an Uncle in Illinois in the >> USA,( we don't have the name of the Uncle and don't no if he was a Peters >> or some one from Webka's family) so they departed in two groups Webka and >> sons Claus Hinrich born 17 Aug 1866 in Hennsted and Peter born 1876 and >> Daughter Alwine born 1865 and her son Amiel George born 21 Jan 1884, >> departed Hamburg, Germany and Le Havre, France on the ship Westphalia and >> arrived in the USA on 27 Mar 1883 in New York. >> >> Her son Hans Johan born 1857 and Daughter Louise Kathrina born 16 Dec >> 1860 >> came on a different ship. ( I can't find records ) Louise married John P. >> Behrens in St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota on the 22 Oct 1883. John P. Behrens >> was born 8 Oct 1853 Schleswig-Holstein too, So they may have been on the >> same ship to the USA. >> >> Hans Johan Peters disappeared after he got to the US. and Alwine Peters >> Disappeared and left her son Amiel George Peters to be raised by her >> Brother Claus Hinrich Peters. >> Claus changed his name to Henry Claus Peter after entering the US. He >> married Antonie Marie Hickstein in Washington State, she was born 2 Dec >> 1881 in Pyritz, Pomerania to August Hickstein and Caroline Houk and >> immigrated to the USA, August had died in Germany he was in the Army, >> Caroline came to live by her brother in Washington State in the US. >> >> Diana Howell >> ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >> http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 3772 (20090116) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 3414 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. 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Jan, I have not got anything back from Rose yet. Maybe she if looking in her records. If only we could find the last name of Webka we would have are answer. I would like to pay to get more info from Germany, but can't at this time. Hay sales have not been good this winter, Farming is not what is use to be so maybe this summer I can have this done. Diana Howell in Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Kokrda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] Peters Family > Diana, > > This really is interesting, maybe we could have a connection! My grt. > grandfather, and his 2 bro. in laws all lived in Omaha for a few years > too. > I do know of a niece that came to live with my grandfather's family, Minni > Prus, which a cousin of my father's has told me. She died and was > supposedly buried in the German cemetery in Plainview, NE but I can't find > any record of that back in 1898 or so. But I don't recall a nephew coming > I think this lady did say a brother to this girl came to Omaha but have > tried to trace that too. Their mother had died in Germany and the father > did not have > means to care for them. I don't know what the cause of death was for > Minni. I live in Omaha and have not found anything and have checked. > Plainview, Ne > is my original home town so I have searched it. I don't know how they > could have been related to this grt. grandfather either, it could be on > many sides. > > My grt grandfather's family Hinrich Lorenz b. 1846, his wife Louise Kuhl, > as follows: his parents, Detlev Holm Lorenz and wife Christina von Stamm > (her second marriage) > Their children: > > Anna, Detlev Holm married Antje Dresen,Matthias, Peter, Christina, and my > > grt. grandfather Hinrich. (Christina married a Hans Graves and lived in > Co. Bluffs, > > IA, but don't know anything about the rest. The first marriage of > Christina also > > had 5 children: Antje,Friedrich,Thoms,Trienke married twice,and Hans. So > > really could be any of these families. This info from Detlev's death > record. > > I have communicated with many of Christina, the child's family, in IA too. > > Then the Wulf family was Nicolaus Wulf b. 1846, wife Amalia Kuhl, > Nicolaus's family : parents Claus of Hennstedt and Catharina Husted Wulf > (of Delve) > > Magdalena and Claus Johann died as infants, Catharina Magdelena married > Johann > > Mueller, Maria, Nicolaus - my grt grandfather, Hermann came to OH, > Ferdinand > > Dierck supposedly came to OH too but can't trace him for sure. Some of > the Wulfs > > changed the spelling to Wolf and was sometimes in Germany Wulff. This info > from > > Claus's death record. I have communicated with Hermann's family still in > Ohio. > > I had a researcher get most of this info for me since the Family History > Center has not filmed this area. They have a film that is like a church > census which is what > I started with. Then the researcher went from there. I do need to see if > I can get some more records as I have some holes in my tree that are still > not filled. > > Any connections let me know, I will let the sting attached so we can look > back, > > Jan Kokrda in Omaha > > > > > > Your message: > I just read my Great Grandfathers story again and on his immigration > records > it has him going to Illinois. and in his story it has them ending up in > Omaha, Nebraska living with and Uncle for two months. and in Nebraska is > were his sister left her son with him and then disappeared. From their he > went to Minnesota, Washington State, Idaho and back to Washington State > were > he died in Spokane, Washington. > > So the Uncle must have moved to Nebraska, your story of your Family in > Illinois and them moving to Nebraska is so much the same story in my > Great > Grandfathers story. > > Your Family went to Nebraska in 1880 and my Family in 1883. ( maybe we are > related and maybe not, but it sounds fishy) > > I got Johan Peters birth date from the record my cousin Rose has, I think > it > was a vaccination record and he was age 11 in 1835. and I got Webka > Margaretha ? from her head stone in Leland, Idaho. > > I will have to email Rose and see what she thinks about this. > > Diana Howell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Kokrda" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] Peters Family > > >> Diana, >> >> I have been searching and reading your e-mail about Peters family and >> trying >> to piece it to my ancestors from the Hennstedt and Schlichting area. >> And I did have a great grandfather that lived in Illinois from 1872-1881. >> His name was Hinrich Lorenz. He was related to Carstens, Wulfs, >> and Kuhls in the Hennstedt area. He had many older Lorenz siblings of >> which >> I have never been able to trace as only 2 came to the US that I know >> about. >> But somewhere I have something that has a Peters as a baptism sponsor or >> something but have looked through and can't find it. >> >> I have this website which contains census from S-H and maybe you can >> piece >> together some info for your family. I did find all my ancestors listed >> since I knew where they came from. Where did you find the info for the >> birth records of Webka and Johan? >> >> Hinrich Lorenz's wife was a Kuhl, Hinrich being from Schlichting, and in >> the >> Wulf line Nicolaus Wulf was married to a Kuhl also and the Wulf's were >> from >> Hennstedt. So we are searching from the same area. Lorenz's came to >> Chicago and were married there, Wulf's went to Pt. Clinton, OH and then >> all >> came to Nebraska around 1880. >> >> This is the census website that has many Peters from this area. Put in >> Hennstedt in first location think it is dorf - place. The year can be >> set >> too and >> the 1860 yeaar is about the last that had most info on Peters. We wish >> it >> was completed further. But it is something to work with if you know more >> about your Peters family. This is the website : >> http://danishgenealogy.homestead.com/danishgenealogy.html Go to the >> bottom >> where it is listed as >> Schleswig-Holstein Census. >> >> Janis Lorenz Kokrda >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry and Diana Howell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:52 PM >> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] Peters Family >> >> >>> Hoping some one has New info on the Peters Family >>> >>> My G - G - GrandMother Webka Margaretha (Family Name Unknown) born Aug >>> 1835 Germany, was married to Johan Peters born about 1824 in >>> Schleswig-Holstein and died their. >>> >>> Webka and her children got a letter from an Uncle in Illinois in the >>> USA,( we don't have the name of the Uncle and don't no if he was a >>> Peters >>> or some one from Webka's family) so they departed in two groups Webka >>> and >>> sons Claus Hinrich born 17 Aug 1866 in Hennsted and Peter born 1876 and >>> Daughter Alwine born 1865 and her son Amiel George born 21 Jan 1884, >>> departed Hamburg, Germany and Le Havre, France on the ship Westphalia >>> and >>> arrived in the USA on 27 Mar 1883 in New York. >>> >>> Her son Hans Johan born 1857 and Daughter Louise Kathrina born 16 Dec >>> 1860 >>> came on a different ship. ( I can't find records ) Louise married John >>> P. >>> Behrens in St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota on the 22 Oct 1883. John P. >>> Behrens >>> was born 8 Oct 1853 Schleswig-Holstein too, So they may have been on the >>> same ship to the USA. >>> >>> Hans Johan Peters disappeared after he got to the US. and Alwine Peters >>> Disappeared and left her son Amiel George Peters to be raised by her >>> Brother Claus Hinrich Peters. >>> Claus changed his name to Henry Claus Peter after entering the US. He >>> married Antonie Marie Hickstein in Washington State, she was born 2 Dec >>> 1881 in Pyritz, Pomerania to August Hickstein and Caroline Houk and >>> immigrated to the USA, August had died in Germany he was in the Army, >>> Caroline came to live by her brother in Washington State in the US. >>> >>> Diana Howell >>> ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >>> Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >>> http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature database 3772 (20090116) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >> We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. >> SPAMfighter has removed 3414 of my spam emails to date. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> The Professional version does not have this message >> >> >> ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >> http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 3428 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message