Great news! Tom Gannon Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> Sender: schleswig-holstein-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:32:39 To: <schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Yes, I have...a lot of the names overlap.  Regardless, you have found my Iowa family, lol.   :D - Kelly ________________________________ From: Sandra Tennyson <lnstennyson@att.net> To: schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 11:29:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Have you tried www.familysearch.org?  There are 62 Magbier's listed.  Possibly one of the records will give you some clues.   Sandra   --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> wrote: From: Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 10:11 AM Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia).  He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I assume this is the mother of Betty Weinbeck (CHS 52). You might want to forward this to her. She is not on-line but here is mailing address. Betty (Weinbeck) Barnes 749 W. Rd 4N Chino Valley, AZ 86323 (928)636-1631 Maybe Jann Hansen would set up a file at the Historical - never hurts to hold on for someone in the family to get interest in their heritage after everyone is gone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kearney" <mikejkearney@hotmail.com> To: <schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist > > My ancestors, John and Anna Duhr Weinbeck sailed from Hamburg on May 12, > 1885 and arrived in New York on May 25, 1885 on the ship Westphalia. If > you are interested, I have a history of the ship. Anna came from the town > of Tielen, near Erfde in Schleswig. Most of her family came to Clinton, > Iowa where their descendants live today. Is any of this of interest to > you? > > Michael J. Kearney > 200 5th Avenue South #304 > Clinton, Iowa 52732 > www.MikeKearney.org > Kearney@alum.wustl.edu > >> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:11:12 -0700 >> From: k.hanrahan@att.net >> To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that >> Seemingly does not Exist >> >> Hello. One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - >> Westphalia). >> He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa. Census >> records >> show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this >> family >> (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ). Worse, >> the >> surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier. >> >> >> Suggestions? >> ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >> http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestors, John and Anna Duhr Weinbeck sailed from Hamburg on May 12, 1885 and arrived in New York on May 25, 1885 on the ship Westphalia. If you are interested, I have a history of the ship. Anna came from the town of Tielen, near Erfde in Schleswig. Most of her family came to Clinton, Iowa where their descendants live today. Is any of this of interest to you? Michael J. Kearney 200 5th Avenue South #304 Clinton, Iowa 52732 www.MikeKearney.org Kearney@alum.wustl.edu > Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:11:12 -0700 > From: k.hanrahan@att.net > To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist > > Hello. One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia). > He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa. Census records > show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family > (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ). Worse, the > surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier. > > > Suggestions? > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Kelly,           By any chance do you know if they went by another name? My husbands grandfather camer over with the last name of Koch with his first wife. He then went by Larsen in all other documents here in the States. Because of the naming pattern issues, I looked at all names that he could possibly go by. His father was Jens Christian Larsen, so when looking for my husbands grandfather, I also checked for him under Jensen as well.   Carla --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> wrote: From: Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 8:11 AM Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia).  He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Teva, Thank you very much for this suggestion!   It may also help with another German/Prussian branch I am researching...or trying to research, lol. As for your challenge with Anna Meier/Meyer/Maier, I completely sympathize, as I have a Thomas Moore brick wall in another branch of my family tree...circa Revolutionary War (-but no pension record making a definitive connection-) and of French descent. :D - Kelly ________________________________ From: Teva Scheer <tjscheer@gmail.com> To: schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 11:44:54 AM Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Actually, you're lucky to be researching the name Magbier, even though it can be spelled in a number of ways. I have one ancestor I will never be able to find: Anna Meier/Meyer/Maier. There are only several thousand girls of the same age with the same name. And, she is variously described on the census enumerations as being from Germany or from Switzerland. So feel fortunate! My suggestion: Look for a church that served the German population in the Iowa town where your ancestor settled. Most German immigrants attended German-language churches for at least the first generation after arriving in North America. The pastors of these churches tended to keep excellent records, and these records have usually been microfilmed, available in the local library. In some cases the records are still at the church. I have had excellent luck in identifying the home German villages by using these records, because the death and marriage records usually list exactly where the immigrants were born. Teva Scheer -----Original Message----- From: schleswig-holstein-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:schleswig-holstein-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kelly OHanrahan Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:11 AM To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia). He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually, you're lucky to be researching the name Magbier, even though it can be spelled in a number of ways. I have one ancestor I will never be able to find: Anna Meier/Meyer/Maier. There are only several thousand girls of the same age with the same name. And, she is variously described on the census enumerations as being from Germany or from Switzerland. So feel fortunate! My suggestion: Look for a church that served the German population in the Iowa town where your ancestor settled. Most German immigrants attended German-language churches for at least the first generation after arriving in North America. The pastors of these churches tended to keep excellent records, and these records have usually been microfilmed, available in the local library. In some cases the records are still at the church. I have had excellent luck in identifying the home German villages by using these records, because the death and marriage records usually list exactly where the immigrants were born. Teva Scheer -----Original Message----- From: schleswig-holstein-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:schleswig-holstein-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kelly OHanrahan Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:11 AM To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia). He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I have...a lot of the names overlap.  Regardless, you have found my Iowa family, lol.   :D - Kelly ________________________________ From: Sandra Tennyson <lnstennyson@att.net> To: schleswig-holstein-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 11:29:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist Have you tried www.familysearch.org?  There are 62 Magbier's listed.  Possibly one of the records will give you some clues.   Sandra   --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> wrote: From: Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 10:11 AM Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia).  He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried www.familysearch.org?  There are 62 Magbier's listed.  Possibly one of the records will give you some clues.   Sandra   --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> wrote: From: Kelly OHanrahan <k.hanrahan@att.net> Subject: [SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS] How to Research a Surname that Seemingly does not Exist To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 10:11 AM Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia).  He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions? ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello.  One of my ancestors arrived in NY on Dec 12 1872 (ship - Westphalia).  He, his wife and their children eventually settled in Iowa.   Census records show a variety of locations as place of birth for various members of this family (Holstein; Schleswig; Prussia; Germany...probably all true ).    Worse, the surname is nearly unsearchable, e.g., Magbier.  Suggestions?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VikingGnome Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/6405.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, unfortunately they have never been microfilmed or copied. The records can be "viewed" at the appropriate parish. I assume this means you cannot write and have them research, locate, and copy for you. Somebody has to go there to find the records needed. See Progenealogist addresses for various Lutheran Church Parishes within Schleswig-Holstein. http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/schleswig/schlparish.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Friends -- I am looking for information and ancestors for: Dittmer Vieths, b. 11 Dec 1780, Prasdorf, Holstein; presumed to have died before June 1849, because his wife emigrated to America at that time. Wife: Abel Schnoor, b. 1787, Prasdorf, Holstein Their 4 sons emigrated to America 1839-1849 and settled in Scott County, Iowa. Eldest son, Asmus Vieths, b. 21 March 1807, Holstein, is reported to have returned to Holstein sometime after 1870 and died in Lubeck, 1875 I have info on the 4 sons and their families in the U.S., if anyone is looking for them. Thank you! Sally

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Have Heinrich Bass born 14 May 1864, Holstein and Dorothea Wulf born 21 Feb 1876, Holstein. Heinrich was a "hide inspector for the German Government. Records say they were married in China in 1904 and left China about 1919 returning to Germany. Would love to find more info on them, seems like an interesting story. Why were they in China? Who were their parents? Believe they eventually settled in Seattle, Washington. Would appreciate any advise as to best place to follow up. Records I have found were in German and my German is limited to "O Tannenbaum", and "ach du lieber", (Grandpa's expression). Any help? Helene

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WilliamBillEngelke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/2356.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks I like to trade info. My e-mail is billandmary2@cox.net. Bill Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cheekymalone Surnames: Hoppensack Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/2356.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill, sorry it has taken me awhile to get back to you. I would love to trade information, and will email you the information I have. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: a4x4mom Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/6405.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you! I will look into that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cwitze Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/6405.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Depending exactly where and when in S-H, I've found good stuff here: http://www.ddd.dda.dk/ddd_en.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Contact your closest LDS library.....they have many (but not allL) SH records.....those North of the river are listed under Denmark. J

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VikingGnome Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.schleswig.general/6405.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Luthern Church Records in Schleswig-Holstein are not available online. Addresses of the various parishes can be found at http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/schleswig/schlparish.htm I surmise that somebody has to go look at the records and that lookups and copying by the church archives are not available. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.