Hi Doc Martens, there is none Census for Heide/Meldorf for the year 1840-1850 online. If you want to help you can contact me by eMail. AKVZ e.V. Peter Voß ************************************************************* D-24109 Kiel, Bergenring 6, Germany Phon: +49 (431) 6612627 Mobil: +49 (171) 1846775 eMail: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Internet: http://www.akvz.de Internet: http://www.Voss-Archiv.de ************************************************************* Fingerprint: CF:A1:82:C0:82:E3:00:71:7F:EC:90:E7:EF:7D:G7:FD ************************************************************* ausgehende eMails sind Norton AntiVirus 2003 geprüft! _____________________________________________________________ Bitte fördern Sie die Arbeit des AKVZ e.V. durch eine Spende! Näheres hierzu siehe: http://www.akvz.de/ger/spendenD.html

Hi Marilene, 1.st Census was taken in 1803 - next one in 1835. NO Census for 1815 AKVZ e.V. Peter Voß ************************************************************* D-24109 Kiel, Bergenring 6, Germany Phon: +49 (431) 6612627 Mobil: +49 (171) 1846775 eMail: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Internet: http://www.akvz.de Internet: http://www.Voss-Archiv.de ************************************************************* Fingerprint: CF:A1:82:C0:82:E3:00:71:7F:EC:90:E7:EF:7D:G7:FD ************************************************************* ausgehende eMails sind Norton AntiVirus 2003 geprüft! _____________________________________________________________ Bitte fördern Sie die Arbeit des AKVZ e.V. durch eine Spende! Näheres hierzu siehe: http://www.akvz.de/ger/spendenD.html

In a message dated 10/8/2003 1:04:32 AM Central Daylight Time, ron@onlinehelp.bc.ca writes: > >>I have the Germans to America CD covering German arrivals from 1850 > >>to 1888. The actual volumes go later than this, but I do not have an > >>index. To do a look-up, I need name and birthdate and any other > >>passengers. > I am looking for the Surname of ADAM that emmigrated during this time period. Carl Ernst Joseph ADAM, born- November 6, 1834; his wife Carolina (STAPPENBECK) ADAM born - March 24, 1836; their children: Marie Clarida ADAM born - January 13, 1866; Fritz George Johannes ADAM born -January 14, 1869; Nicko Adolph Julius ADAM born - October 6, 1872; Agnes Anna Alvina ADAM born- October 6, 1872; Nicoline Sophia Helene ADAM born - December 1, 1874. All of the above except for Carl was born in Staberdorf, Fehmarn Island, Germany. There was one other sister who died in 1873. Based on the last child's birth I know they left Germany sometime after 1874 and based on Nicko's marriage know they were in Iowa in 1895. Thank you, Vicki qwestforpeace@aol.com

Dear Listers, Please do not buy the Genealogy book about Schwabstedt, because you can order it on microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake. Then, you can search it at a branch library near you. If I remember correctly, you need to pay attention to patronymic surname changes. I helped a woman research it several years ago. In fact, we started research in Husum, but we soon discovered that we should be searching parishes in Kreis Husum and not the city of Husum. I was happy that we did search Husum first though, because I found one of the missing brothers to my Justus KALKBRENNER of Heide. I looked up Sipsdorf in Meyer's Gazetteer and it said to look under Luebbersdorf. Both these localities are in Kreis Oldenburg. Hopefully, this will be of some help to you. As for the listers interested in FRAHM in Meggersdorf, my ancestress Christina FRAHM was born in Meggersdorf about 1696. Her father was Hinrich FRAHM of Meggersdorf, whom I think was buried on 21 Aug 1733 in Berghusen. The Meggersdorf records were housed in the parish of Berghusen. The Family History Library has Berghusen on microfilm, but there are gaps (Luecke) for some of the years during the 1700's. Please do not write to me asking for me to search these records during the 1800's, but write to the pastor in Berghusen. The FHL only has films for the 1700's. Also, I cannot take time to research your family from Germany before 1850, when the Hamburg Passenger Lists begin and the GERMANS TO AMERICA volumes begin. I have only a little time to help you, because I am researching my own family, my husband's and a few clients only on Monday, Wednesday and Friday due to health reasons. Karla Nurnberg P.S. I am happy to help, when I can. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Looking for Heinrich Vinke born in or near Schoenberg Propstei in Nov. 1846, he had a brother Peter and a sister Dora. I think his father may have been Hans. They came to USA around 1865, but I have not been able to verify this family story. Looks as though the name was originally Finke, still researching this. Would like to know more about his parents and siblings and if Finke is the correct spelling. thanks mary

I have done some research using the Germans to America printed volumes, the FTM CD transcription of G to Am, and the microfilmed manifests at NARA. It is my understanding that G to Am used the manifests in Europe and not those in the U.S. as a source. Does anyone know for sure about the G of Am source? This may be important as the manifests for Bremen were destroyed in WW2 and only the Hamburg manifests still exist. NARA, of course, has the arrival information. Germans to America does not cover dates before 1850. The National Archives does NOT have an index for New York passengers for the years 1847 to 1897 so Germans to America is likely the only source for these years. If you know the date and port of arrival then you can find the manifest at NARA. The FTM CD has all individuals sorted by surname while the printed volumes are by year so each has some utility. But you still need to look at the original manifest to be sure you have the right person or family. My great grandfather, Henry Lotz, died just months before the 1900 census so I don't have an arrival year. H., Henry, or Heinrich Lotz is not an uncommon name so I had many candidates even after narrowing the years down based on birth date and census. Henry is in the 1880 California census and his wife, my great grandmother, Geesche, is in the 1900 census. However, they met and married in San Francisco. I've found a prospective brother of Henry's, Frank Lotz, in the 1880 California census who is also in the 1900 census and that supplied a year and I found H. Lotz and Fritz Lotz in G to Am and in the NARA manifests leaving Marseilles on different vessels and arriving in New York only ten days apart in 1865. The census is the only indication I have that tells me they were from Holstein. It is important to find the original manifest so you can see who else was on the vessel. This might provide more family members and this can confirm that you have the right person from G to Am. I have a large number of Swiss ancestors from Canton Bern. These are also in G to Am. I found several in the FTM CD and thought I had a match, but when I looked at the NARA manifest it was obviously a different family; same surname and many of the same first names but the ages and many of the siblings did not match. I did confirm many of the Swiss ancestors as a whole group arrived together in New Orleans. Finding one of this group in G to Am and then looking up the NARA manifest for that person, supplied a couple dozen more people that I was looking for. I have the FTM CD of G of Am for 1850 to 1874. I don't have the second disk for dates after 1874. I don't have access to the printed volumes, at least not easily, as I would have to go to the Library of Congress to see these. I have to go to the Archives for the manifests. Trips to downtown D.C. do not occur often and I tend to have a long list of to-dos. One thing I found in these trips is the use of the copy machine. It is a lot faster to make copies of census sheets at NARA and pages from books at the LC than to try to transcribe them on the spot. The study and transcriptions can be done later at home when time is not as constrained. You can find more detail at: http://sdmbizlists.home.infionline.net/LotzGene.html and http://sdmbizlists.home.infionline.net/SchindlerGene.html Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://smcleod.home.infionline.net/ genealogy@broadrunit.com

Hi Susan, have just gone through my back log of E Mail. I would not be surprised if your Kruse's are from Hohenhorst, that is if you mean the one between Gnissau and Ahrensbök. My Kruse's are from that area and lived on a farm in the Wildkoppel. The area is considered Hohenhorst (still). I do not have Friedrich or Catharina Magdalena Kruse in my tree but then I doubt that I have all the siblings rounded up. If you care to respond with dates, please before 13 Oct, since I am practically on my way to Germany. I am curious, Margarete C., AZ

Dear all, I wanted know if I may find The Census of these villages on-line ? Thanks in advance, Marilene Paulella

Anna HARMS, born March 3, 1816 in Schleswig, married Johann ELSEN (DOB and place unknown). Arrived in Davenport, Iowa area in the 1850's. He died before 1861. Anna HARMS gave place of birth as "Schleswig" on all censuses. Their daughter was Johanna Margaretta HARMS, who also gave place of birth as "Schleswig". She was born February 25, 1837. She married Carl Schroeder in Davenport area in 1857. They moved to Nebraska by 1870. Many thanks your help. Cindy

"Bev MacLeod" <jandbmacleod@actewagl.net.au> schrieb: Is the 1803 Census for Rendsburg also online, please? Hi Beverley, as soon as possible ... Peter Voß ************************************************************* D-24109 Kiel, Bergenring 6, Germany Phon: +49 (431) 6612627 Mobil: +49 (171) 1846775 eMail: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Internet: http://www.akvz.de Internet: http://www.Voss-Archiv.de ************************************************************* Fingerprint: CF:A1:82:C0:82:E3:00:71:7F:EC:90:E7:EF:7D:G7:FD ************************************************************* ausgehende eMails sind Norton AntiVirus 2003 geprüft! _____________________________________________________________ Bitte fördern Sie die Arbeit des AKVZ e.V. durch eine Spende! Näheres hierzu siehe: http://www.akvz.de/ger/spendenD.html

In a message dated 10/6/2003 11:10:13 PM Central Daylight Time, jfrahm@colby.ixks.com writes: > Margaretha FRAHM born ca 1828-29 don't know spouse --her parents Claus > FRAHM &Margaretha Luise ANDRESEN > > I have a Margaretha Frahm, dtr of Hans Hinrich Frahm and Catharina Mahrt prob born prior to 1820...she had at least one sister, Wiebke Frahm. From Meggerdorf. Any possible connection... Thank you, Vicki

Siehe: http://www.akvz.de/dwl/840C6215K.htm please view: http://www.akvz.de/dwl/840C6215K.htm Peter Voß ************************************************************* D-24109 Kiel, Bergenring 6, Germany Phon: +49 (431) 6612627 Mobil: +49 (171) 1846775 eMail: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Internet: http://www.akvz.de Internet: http://www.Voss-Archiv.de ************************************************************* Fingerprint: CF:A1:82:C0:82:E3:00:71:7F:EC:90:E7:EF:7D:G7:FD ************************************************************* ausgehende eMails sind Norton AntiVirus 2003 geprüft! _____________________________________________________________ Bitte fördern Sie die Arbeit des AKVZ e.V. durch eine Spende! Näheres hierzu siehe: http://www.akvz.de/ger/spendenD.html

In a message dated 10/5/2003 10:41:36 AM Central Daylight Time, duf@ntplx.net writes: > Maternal lines include: Teden (Theden, Tede), Johannsen, Ehlers, Führen, > Thororsten, Timmen, Schillhorn, Heesch, , Möller, Harms, Lohman, Hollm, > Gathje, Hack, Jessen, Scheel, Behrens, Böye, Rasmus, Mohn, Bielenberg. > Gary, I have a Dorothea Rasmus as one of my brick walls. Vicki

Here is the information and surnames I am researching. My great grandmother was Weibke JOHANNSEN B- October 22, 1875 - Meggerdorf, S-H Baptized - December 15, 1875 in Lutheran Church in Bergenhusen M- March 27, 1835 - Boone, Iowa to Nicko Adolph Julius ADAM (who was from Fehmarn Island Germany) D- March 15, 1936 and is buried in Glenwood, Cemetary, Ogden, Iowa She arrived in Ellis Island on March 20, 1894 at age of 19, single, on board ship Rhaetia from Hamburg Germany and apparently without any other family members. Her parents were: Johann JOHANNSEN B-Jan 31, 1835 - Meggerdorf, S-H Baptized Feb 1, 1835 at home (he was illegitimate and his father was the husband of his mother's sister) M-November 21, 1871 -Meggerdorf, S-H to Christina Marie KOLL (who was from Nueboem, S-H) D- October 1, 1895 - Meggerdorf, S-H Buried on October 5, 1895 in Bergenhusen, S-H Christina Marie KOLL B-April 21, 1849 - Nueboem, S-H Baptized - May 6, 1849 in Lutheran Church in Hollingsteadt, S-H D- April 11, 1922 - Meggerdorf, S-H Buried on April 15, 1922 in old cemetary, east side They had the following children: 1) Catharina 2) Wiebke 3) Doris 4) Hans 5) Christina 6) Johann 7) Anna 8) Emma Johann's parents were: Johann JOHANNSEN (all that I know about him was that he was Catharina FRAHM's brother in law (married to her sister Wiebke FRAHM) at the time of the birth and at the time of the birth was residing in Rendsburg. He also had at least one younger brother and one older sister.) Catharina FRAHM (all that I know about her is that her parents were Hans Hinrich FRAHM who was a farmer from Meggerdorf and Catharina MAHRT) Christina's parents were: Hans Hinrich KOLL a resident of Neuboem, S-H and Dorothea RASMUS Any information anyone has that might tie into this is greatly appreciated. Also be interested in anyone with different surnames also in the Meggerdorf area since it's my understanding this is a very small village...some names found as witnesses on baptisms of these family are: Hinrich PLOEHN, Landmann in Meggerdorf; Mrs. Wiebke KOLL in Meggerkoog; Spinster Anna KOLL in Meggerkoog; Thies Johannsen FRAHM from Meggerdorf; Spinster Hans Hinrich FRAHM from Meggerdorf; Spinster Catharina BRENDENBECK from Meggerdorf; Christina HAALBECK in Neuboerm; Peter KOLL; Maria COHRT in Hollingstedt. Thanks, Vicki Bright qwestforpeace@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kVC.2ACE/2878.2879.2887.2 Message Board Post: What are the chances that you may have a Phyllis weise in your family line. I do not have birth or death dates, but I can tell you that she passed somewhere between 1964 to 1969. Phyllis was aloas married to a Harlan Gilson. Thank You Carrie

I have just learned that my g-grandparents, Nels Nelson and his wife Dorothea (Hansen) Nelson immigrated to Middlesex County, NJ (port of NY, presumably) in 1876. They had a daughter, Hannah, age 8, and a son, Hans Peter, age 4, and Dorothea was pregnant at the time. She may have delivered the third child on the ship, but I'm not sure. His name was Carl Louis and I know that he was born in 1876. If your offer applies to this vague a request, I'd appreaciat anything you can find. Kathryn Jensen Jewett

Hello to Keith Freese, I have a book on "Schwabstedt--5000 Jahre Schwabstedter Geschichte", by Hans Meyer. Dr. Meyer was a practicing physician in Schwabstedt for 35 years, and his book is well crafted. A bookstore in Husum had no reference on it, but I was able to get a copy in a little store in Schwabstedt. It is printed in German. My ancestors in Schwabstedt were the Jacobs family. My g-grandfather, Juergen Naeve married Anna Jacobs, and they came with grandfather, Marx Naeve, to Iowa in 1868. Harvey Martens in Des Moines, Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freese, Keith" <keith.freese@navy.mil> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Book Request > Ladies and Gentlemen: > > Have received a copy of "Topographie des Herzogthums Schleswig" by Johannes von Schröder (1854). I believe I have located Schwabstedt on pages 466-467, but am unable to locate Sipsdorf. Does anyone know what page this might be on, so I can get it translated? Thanks. > > V/r, > Keith Freese > > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > The Frequently_Asked_Questions web-site can be found at: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

Drat, it doesn't seem to be a match. My Margaretha Frahm was born 1834 and her parents are Jacob Frahm and Anna Magdalene Deertz. Thank you for your response, though Kathryn Hetherington ----- Original Message ----- From: Janice Frahm To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] roll call: Peters,Oettchen, (Oetjen), Bormann,Schweizer Kathryn, Margaretha FRAHM born ca 1828-29 don't know spouse --her parents Claus FRAHM & Margaretha Luise ANDRESEN Margaretha has at least 3 siblings - Sara, Claus, and Jacob C FRAHM Does this seem to match your information? Also have August PETERS born 1851 - no information about his parents Janice Frahm jfrahm@colby.ixks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: MICHAEL HETHERINGTON <skywriter1@msn.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] roll call: Peters, > PETERS > Heinrich Friedrich Peters (1831) born Garding, married Margaretha FRAHM (Oldenswort), his father Hinrich Friedrich Peters > Kathryn Peters Hetherington > skywriter1@msn.com > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > The Frequently_Asked_Questions web-site can be found at: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== The Frequently_Asked_Questions web-site can be found at: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm

Dear Keith, The village SIPSDORF in the estate LUEBBERSDORF in the church parish OLDENBURG is in Holstein. So you need the "Topographie der Herzogtümer Holstein und Lauenburg, ........" of Johhanes von Schröder u. Herm. Biernatzki, (this are two books) at page 464 of the second book. Regards, Hans Peter Voss

SURNAMES I am researching - KRÜCK, PIENING, KÖSTER BRICKWALLS : *Elsabe Margaretha PIENING and *Hinrich KRÜCK -- parents of Paul Diederich KRÜCK whose christening record is below. I don't know their birthplaces, parents or ages. *Diedrich PIENING and *Dorothea geb KÜHL. -- know nothing. *Corporal Israel Christian KÖSTER -- know nothing. Im Taufbuch der Christkirche Rendsburg-Neuwerk (diese Kirch war die fur die Garnison) heisst es im Jahr 1801 No. 33, geboren 5. Marz, getauft 8. Marz 1801: Paul Diederich KRÜCK , unehelich, der Elsabe Margaretha PIENING hieselbst, angeblich mit dem Musqu(etier) Hinrich KRÜCK von der 2. Musqu. Compag(nie) Oldenburgischen Regiments. Elsabe Margaretha PIENING may have married Corporal Israel Christian KÖSTER in Rendsburg in 1802, and they may have had a daughter Johanna Margaretha KÖSTER born abt. 1804. If that marriage took place, her parents may have been Diedrich PIENING and Dorothea geb KÜHL. Paul Diederich KRÜCK married Catharina Dorothea LASS from Arnis at Eckernförde on 14 Jan 1827, and they had 5 children : Carl Dietrich, geb. 14 Nov 1825 at Kiel [Carl Dietrich KRUCK, my greatgrandfather, migrated to Australia in 1863] *Dorothea Henriette Christina KRÜCK geb about 1827 at Eckernförde *Anton Friederich KRÜCK geb 1829 *Beata Katrine KRÜCK geb about 1831 *Margarethea Friedrica KRÜCK geb about 1833 (Margaretha married *Peter Wilhelm BJERGSTED on 18 June 1856 in Copenhagen) I would like to trace any descendants of Carl Diedrich KRÜCK's siblings listed above. Thank you. Beverley Australia