Hi, To the person with an ancestral line of Schneekloth, please send me the names of people for whom you are looking with that surname. There is a book at the FHL with people with that surname from an area in Eastern Holstein. For the woman, who is looking for a Frahm married to a Deertz, I checked the 1835 census for all Frahms, but I do not remember anyone with the maiden name Deertz. However, some of the married women with not listed with their maiden names. The Bergenhusen parish registers cover a lot of the 1700's and the 1800's and I plan on looking at these on Wednesday to extract more Frahm families. Karla Nurnberg --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grosskruez Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kVC.2ACE/3332.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Don't think I can help...I've told you everything I know. Could you possibly contact your Grosskruez aunts/uncles without stirring up a family hornet's nest? As of 1920 the family name in S-H was spelled without a T.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kVC.2ACE/3332.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I do not know much about my family tree. My father's parents and grandparents are both deceased and my aunts and uncles do not speak with my father, so I do not even know who to ask. My family took the T out of Grosskreutz and now we spell it Grosskreuz. Did your family have the T in the last name? Please help me find my ancestors...I am very curious.

My brickwall has been, trying to find out where my great-grandfather August Meyer, was born in Germany. His birthdate was February 9, 1866, and it was said to be in Schleswig-Holstein. His father's name was Carl Meyer, mother unknown. He came to the United States approximately 1880-1884 at the age of 15. He settled in Muscatine, Iowa where he met his future wife Martha Ikelman, they moved to Denver, Colorado, where Martha's brother lived and they were married November 10, 1891, at St. Patricks Catholic Church, Denver. They lived in Denver for 5 years, next moving to Cordova, Illinois, they lived there for 1 year, and then moved again back to Muscatine, Iowa residing there for 1 1/2 years. August worked at the Button Factory as a foreman. Their Two children Carl Henry Meyer and Gertrude Lillian Meyer were born there. Next they moved to Davenport, Iowa approximately 30 mile from Muscatine. this is where the finally settled and raised their family. August became a Davenport Policeman retiring in 1941. He died March 6, 1946 at the age of 80. Any information would be greatly appreciated. August was a very private person , and spoke nothing of Germany or his family there. Thank you, Marcia

Hi, I am researching CHRISTIANSEN, UDENBYE/UDENBYS, LUELOFF/LULLOFF, VOSS I am mainly looking for information on my GGGGrandparents Jorgen Christiansen Udenbys and Marie Catherine Frederiksen. I have found some christening records for their children from Kegnæs, Aabendraa-Sønderborg, which is a place I am having a hard time finding. They had 14 children from 1840 to 1864. Elene Marie - died as a baby, Marie Catherine (Madsen) born April 30 1840, Christian born Sept 24 1841, Hans born Feb 8 1843, George born May 22, 1844, Christina Marie (Olsen) born Dec 18, 1846, Anna Marie (Jacobsen) born Feb 9, 1849, Catherine Marie (Halvorsen) born Apr 11, 1850, Chrestin born March 12, 1854, Magdalena Sophia (Nelson) born Sept 21, 1854, Anna Margretha (Thortzen) born Oct 29, 1856, Ellen (Anderson) born May 7, 1859, Fred born Oct 31, 1862 and Iver born March 29, 1864 I am also having a very hard time finding immigration information on the children. I know that Christian, Fred, Catherine, Magdalena and Iver immigrated for sure, but I do not know about the others. LUELOFF/VOSS Ludwig (Louis) LUELOFF, son of Frederick Lueloff and Dorothea Sophia LORENZ. Ludwig was born 24 Oct 1823 in Prussia, He was married on 25 Sep 1853 to Wilhelmine VOSS, born 10 Feb 1836 in Germany Gretchen Lulloff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans-Peter Voss" <Hans-Peter.Voss@t-online.de> > Dear Members of the SH-ROOTS-list, > > I invite you to sent a so called roll call about your ancestors and / or > about the dead ends of your research in the next 14 days. > Please list as much information as possible, e.g. full names, birth > places, and names of parents. > Thank you. > Regards, > Hans Peter Voss ; Admin SH-ROOTS-list >

Ghyll, One of the surnames I am researching is LUELOFF. Sometimes the old script is difficult to decipher, I wonder if we may be searching for information on the same name. After seeing your post I will include Lueloss in my searchings and let you know if I find any connection. After coming to America, my Lueloff's changed the spelling to Lulloff. Gretchen Lulloff > My great great great grandparents were Georg Friedrich von Coeverden and Grietje (nee Lueloss). In 1812 my great great grandfather Georg von Coeverden was born in Leer, Germany. He married and settled in Bremen. Does anyone know where they came from and do they have any descendants besides me? > Hopefully,Ghyll

My husband has all of the above surnames in his ancestry, but I cannot make a connection specifically to those mentioned. I have some confusion as to this list. Who is who's parents? Family tree for Asmus and Laura: Asmus and Laura f. Claus STOLTENBERG m. Antje STUHR f.Claus STOLTENBERG m. Esther ARP f.Asmus STUHR m. Antje SINDT f. Claus STOLTENBERG f.Hans ARP f. Hans STUHR f. Juergen SINDT m. Metta LAMP m.Trin STEFFENS m.Antje SCHNEEKLOTH m. Antje SCHOEL Fran Bumann in California

Associated names ARP, LAMP, STEFFENS, STUHR, SINDT, SCHNEEKLOTH, SCHOEL Brick wall! Hans STOLTENBERG b16/5/1841 Ratjendorf near Benfeldt S-H f.Paul m. Trin (?) m 1866 Singleton NSW Barbara DRIES d 1921 Narrabri NSW His daughter married Asmus STOLTENBERG b 29/4/1855 Lutterbek S-H m 1883 Singleton NSW Barbara STOLTENBERG d 1913 Narrabri NSW Asmus sister also came to NSW Laura STOLTENBERG b 23/8/1862 Lutterbek S-H m1 unknown Divorced m2 Caspar Corrodi 1899 Sydney NSW d 1930 Moree NSW Family tree for Asmus and Laura: Asmus and Laura f. Claus STOLTENBERG m. Antje STUHR f.Claus STOLTENBERG m. Esther ARP f.Asmus STUHR m. Antje SINDT f. Claus STOLTENBERG f.Hans ARP f. Hans STUHR f. Juergen SINDT m. Metta LAMP m.Trin STEFFENS m.Antje SCHNEEKLOTH m. Antje SCHOEL Anyone connected?

Hello List, One of my brick wall is my great great grandfather and grandmother. There names are Ernst Denser and Grete Thede. The came to America in March, 1881, They arrived in New York. Ernst Denser was born approx. 1844. We are told that his father owned a "department store," and her father was a school teacher. Ernst and Grete went straight to Nebraska and soon had a child. We are not sure if they had family there. The child was named Carl Peter August Denser. The family did show up in the 1885 census with a different spelling of the last name, Dienser. The census taker wrote his translation of the last name. (my thought). Any information would be great. Thank You, Cindie Hobbs

My wife, who is literate in three languages, thinks the machine translations are hopeless. She does admit that one can get the essence of the source viewed through a prism of very bad grammar. She says the most serious problem is something called in French a "false friend." Don't ask me what the French word is that she used. This is where a word is translated literally from one language to another, but in the context it means something entirely different. There is also the problem such as translating "Venetian Blinds" or "blind Venetian." I once saw the Russian for a hydraulic ram translated as water goat. That is probably an example of a "false friend." In the U.S. there was a popular car named Nova. In English this name implies great power and brilliance. Chevrolet could not understand why they were having trouble selling this car in Mexico until someone pointed out that "no va" means in Spanish "doesn't go." Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://smcleod.home.infionline.net/ genealogy@broadrunit.com "Carole Carlson" <Califkaro@comcast.net> 10/10/2003 11:31 PM Please respond to SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com cc: Subject: [S-H-RTS] Translation Software Slightly off topic: I'd be interested to know of experiences Listers have had using translation software. I have used some sites on line in the past for a few lines to translate another language to English. There are many (nonEnglish) German, Austrian and Czech sites that I'd like to research. I don't speak/read the languages. So I thought there might be software that would do the job fairly accurately. A Google search brought up many choices. One of my Austrian relatives who does not speak English uses translation software which seems to do a reliable job of translating my e-mails to him. Since these lists have so many people with such broad experience, I thought I'd ask for experiences/recommendations. Thanks for any suggestions. Carole Soenke Carlson Sacramento, CA ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== The Frequently_Asked_Questions web-site can be found at: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm

ROLL CALL SCHMIDT, FISCHER Am looking for any information on my Grandmother IDA FELICITA SCHMIDT born 22 Feb 1862 Neumuster (we think) S/H Father NICHOLIA SCHMIDT Mother DOROTHEA ( FISCHER) SCHMIDT. Ida had atleast one sister Born 1858 CATHERINE JOHANNA FISCHER. Thanks Barb in Oregon USA

ROLL CALL CHRISTIANSEN, PETERSEN, HANSEN Am looking for information on my Great Grandfather JENS PETER CHRISTIANSEN was born 21 July 1827 in Auchtrup S/H Leck Parish his father was SONNICH CHRISTIANSEN his Mother CHRISTINA HANSEN CHRISTIANSEN. We found them in the 1855 Flensberg census, with 2 children JENS ADOLPH male age 7 and CHRISTEN male age 1. My Grandfather was born 1860, CLAUS CHRISTIANSEN and his wife IDA FELiCITA SCHMIDT CHRISTIANSEN came to United States in 1884 settling in Iowa. Thanks Barb in Oregon USA

Mit der Bitte um Hilfestellung Gruß Klaus Riecken www.Riecken-online.de ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew To: shfam@genealogy.net Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:24 AM Subject: Mitgliederdatenbank I am not sure if I am even in the right place for this but my name is paul and I am doing my family tree. I had relatives come to Qld Australia in 1866 on the Ship Beausite from Hamburg. I am trying find information on Claus, Anna, Hinrich, Wilhelmine, Detlef and Wiebke Sticken. All of these accept Anna Came to Australia and Detlef and Wiebke as well as their children died on the voyage over. Hinrich and Wilhelmine's daughter Cecelia married my great great Grandfather John Henry Williams in 1895. The Sticken family orriginated from Nordhastedt in Holstein Germany. I am trying to find message boards in Schleswig Holstein to leave messages regarding the Sticken family in the hope that there are still relatives in this area. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Paul

Hello, I am searching for the small sailing ship that went from Bremen to Baltimore, Maryland. JUILUS WILHELM TIMPE born Jan. 1786 in Itzehoe,Schelswig-Holstein, Germany His wifeANNA DOROTHEA ELEANORE ADELHADE THOMAS and son JOHN HENRY MARTIN TIMPE 10 years old at the time they left port 6 Sept.1831. ArrivedDec. 1831. I know your CD records start in 1850 but the books start before that date? Ruth289@aol.com

The books start in 1850. THere is talk about starting earlier at some point. However, it would be easy to search the passenger ship lists (if available for that year) as there would not be too many. Gene At 12:32 PM 10/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, >I am searching for the small sailing ship that went from Bremen to Baltimore, >Maryland. >JUILUS WILHELM TIMPE born Jan. 1786 in Itzehoe,Schelswig-Holstein, Germany >His wifeANNA DOROTHEA ELEANORE ADELHADE THOMAS and son JOHN HENRY MARTIN >TIMPE 10 years old at the time they left port 6 Sept.1831. ArrivedDec. 1831. >I know your CD records start in 1850 but the books start before that date? >Ruth289@aol.com > > >==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >The Frequently_Asked_Questions web-site can be found at: >http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm Eugene Wengert Emeritus Professor, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison President, The Wood Doctor's Rx, LLC 2872 Charleston Drive Madison, WI 53711-6503 608-271-4441 Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@UWAlumni.com www.WoodWeb.com

Dear Listers, I am posting this marriage on this couple in hopes that it is just the thing that someone is searching for. Bernd Ludw. Christian KLEINHAMMER, a shoemaker's helper, son of the late Anton KLEINHAMMER in Preetz and Maria Elisabeth nee MOELLER, who is still living and the unmarried woman/spinster Christiana Magdalena Benedicta PRIEN/PRIEHN, legitimate daughter of Daniel PRIEHN in Preetz and the late Elsabe Margarethe SIWERS/SIEVERS. Frau KLEINHAMMER was a godparent to her two nieces/daughters of her brother, Detlev Wilhelm PRIEN (my ancestor) during the 1770's. She was still living, when her father died in 1784, because she is listed, as one of his survivors. Karla Nurnberg --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Thank you all for your suggestions. Carole Soenke Carlson Sacramento, California USA

Dear members of the mailing lists, The AKVZ e.V. and the transcript of census registers The AKVZ e.V. (Work Circle Census Registers Schleswig-Holstein) wishes to convey here with details of its project to gather census data for Schleswig-Holstein: Transcripts are prepared without remuneration by volunteers. For this task the AKVZ e.V. is soliciting dedicated coworkers !!! The WinKip program, used by our Danish friends for years to transcribe data is now also available in German. An English version is being developed. This program is being used exclusively for the transcripts to ensure that the results are compatible with the Danish data bank, and will be freely available to anyone by way of data bank inquiries. The AKVZ e.V. cooperates with: LAS, the Schleswig-Holstein Provincial Archives; CAU, the Christian-Albrechts University in Kiel; AK, Work Circle Economic and Social History, Schleswig-Holstein; DIS-Danmark, Danish Data Processing; DDA, Danish Data Archive; as well as other scientific and historical institutions. For further information: http://www.akvz.deger/partnerD.html Now the AKVZ e.V. is in a funded position to foster the transcript of census registers, drawing on the resources of the GHSG (Society for Schleswig-Holstein History) and the AK (Work Circle Economic and Social History SH). We are happy to report that up to now we have recruited 44 individuals for active participation in the AKVZ e.V. Nevertheless, we are looking for more volunteers. The immensity of data (some 4.5 million individuals over 8 census cycles - 1769, 1803, 1835, 1840, 1845, 1855, 1860 and 1864) simply requires the division of this project amongst a number of people. Our Danish friends gave us the example. Their 1803 census for Denmark is almost complete. Within their data bank more than 4 million individual data are already available on line. The former duchies Schleswig and Holstein (after that also Lauenburg and the county of Dithmarschen and the duchy of Luebeck) are still "blank spots on the map". Should you be interested in our project, please send us an e-mail at: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Each new coworker will be added to our internal VZ (Census Register) mailing list. During the initial phase this entails the advantage that you are kept informed of our progress and can count on support from this group. In addition, we offer bi-weekly workshops in conjunction with the TV station OK Kiel as a steady support service. An on line forum, a quasi FAQ help line, round out this support service. Further information about the AKVZ is available at: http://www.akvz.de/index.html Dr.-Eng. Kurt Peter Voß, Coordinator, Census Registry and web master of the AKVZ e.V. ************************************************************* D-24109 Kiel, Bergenring 6, Germany Phon: +49 (431) 6612627 Mobil: +49 (171) 1846775 eMail: mailto:K.P.Voss@T-Online.de Internet: http://www.akvz.de Internet: http://www.Voss-Archiv.de ************************************************************* Fingerprint: CF:A1:82:C0:82:E3:00:71:7F:EC:90:E7:EF:7D:G7:FD ************************************************************* ausgehende eMails sind Norton AntiVirus 2003 geprüft! _____________________________________________________________ Bitte fördern Sie die Arbeit des AKVZ e.V. durch eine Spende! Näheres hierzu siehe: http://www.akvz.de/ger/spendenD.html

Hi List, There is much interest in the availability of census records, but it is obvious that there are few transcribers and many census records to be done. How does one overcome this, perhaps members of this list could express their desire that certain areas be done with the encouragement that they will be a part of the effort. This may mean contacting other researchers who need the same census record transcribed and realise that there are available records for that place for a number of years eg 1803, 1835, 1840, 1845 & 1855. Offering to assist in the collecting of the records by hiring LDS films and paying for the hire, photocopying and postage, even where this is not directly available offering to finance someone who can do the hard work but does not have the financial means to do so. Advertising in your local area for someone who is able to read the old German script. this person obviously would need to be paid a fee for his or her work. I have been successful in hiring the film, paying for the photocopies, finding a lovely person in my neighbourhood who is able to transcribe the records and appreciates the money I pay him to do the work which supplements his pension and gives him a extra feeling of worth. Not being able to speak the German language has not been a obstacle to me. There are professional organisations and researchers that appear on this list who I am sure would offer suggestions, welcome assistance and encourage the means of when the transcription is finished a greater coverage to other researchers. I must make aware to readers that all this takes time and for them who do this to have patience. my friendly greetings Wayne Bunning researching the Neukirchen, Segeberg and Gleschendorf areas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ANDRADE YELA SANTACRUZ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kVC.2ACE/2906.1 Message Board Post: I am sorry I am not able to help you with your Reimers family, however it caught my eye that your last name is ANDRADE and that you family lived in Lima. I am researching for the ANDRADE family, who I understand were based in Colombia in the province of Nariño. Nariño and Peru are relatevely close to each other, so I am hoping you have some information about the ANDRADE family. My grandfather, Lisimaco Hipolito ANDRADE, was born on september 1919, the son of Segundo ANDRADE and Eudosia ANDRADE. The paternal grandparents were Jose Basilio ANDRADE and Encarnacion YELA. Maternal grandparents were Jose Maria ANDRADE and Rosenda SANTACRUZ. My grandfather Lisimaco was baptized in the town of Linares, Pasto, Colombia. My grandfather was a sailor who ended up in the coast of Colombia and we don´t know anything about his family at all, as he never spoke about them. As a sailor, he left over 25 children with many different women. If you have any information I would really appreciated. Thx