Hello Listers, I have recently discovered that my ggggf was born in Ratzeburg. It would have been about 1790, since his first son was born in 1817 in Segeberg. Does anybody know where birth, marriage and death records for the town, not the principality, for that period might be stored? Or does anybody know a library, probably in Germany, which has the book: Die Neubürger der Stadt Ratzeburg von 1601 bis 1871, by B. Raute, Lauenburgischer Heimatverlag, Ratzeburg i. Lbg, (1933)? Rgds, Justin Levy (Dublin, Ireland) ============================================================================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ==============================================================================

The first rule of German research is to write to the church in the town, in your case Ratzeburg and Segeberg. You find their addresses using http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm . You need to know their faith (Catholic or Evangelical). Be sure to evaluate the entire page. For books I turn first to http://google.com and type in a few search terms. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Levy, Justin" <Justin.Levy@Jacobs.com> Does anybody know where birth, marriage and death records for the town, not the principality, for that period might be stored? Or does anybody know a library

Dear Joachim, I belong to the German Genealogical Group and we have interesting lectures at our monthly meetings. We also receive a monthly newsletter! One piece of information that we were told is that if you are looking for military information, you have to look for it at the location where the person mustered out of the service. I do not know how you find out where they were when they left the military, but that is where you have to search! Good luck to you! Ghyll

============= Hello Listers, who knows where to find further informations on the german anti-aircraft forces during ww II on scicily. And what kind of course the soldier might have joined in 1943 in Halle / Saale. The 'Wehrmacht Auskunftstelle' WaST in Berlin couldn't help me much. They only told me start - end of service. Joachim =============== Researching military records in the U.S. isn't any easier. The military records center in St. Louis said they did not have any records at all for my grandfather who collected a pension based on his service. I found him in the Marine Corp muster roll at the National Archive in Washington, DC. If the German military kept a periodic accounting of the men in each unit and filed that away then that is probably where you will have to look. That Marine muster roll I looked through is on microfilm and is not indexed. I looked through it one month and one name at a time till I found my grandfather in Company A, 1st Marine Battalion, at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba in June and July 1898. You may have to do something similar. Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://smcleod.home.infionline.net/ genealogy@broadrunit.com

Du sollst http://www.feldgrau.com/ versuchen, auch http://google.com. "flak-schule", und "WK II Flak auf Sizilien" :-) Don

If they don't have it they can get it at amazon.de :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <krdokken@usinternet.com> How do you get a copy of this book? Who's selling it? Can you get it through Amazon.de?

Thanks for the translation, Now the question is... How do you get a copy of this book? Who's selling it? Can you get it through Amazon.de? Katharine ----- From: "Don Watson" ----- Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Re: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-D Digest V03 #234 ----- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:05:39 -0600 Hallo in die Runde, Hello in the circle, in der Ahrenburger Zeitung ist ein Artikel, der ein neues Buch beschreibt, dass evtl. auch für den einen oder anderen von uns interessant sein könnte: "Herrzogtum Lauenburg - das Land und seine Geschichte", der aktuelle Forschungsstand auf 832 Seiten, ist im Wachholtz Verlag erschienen und kostet 48 Euro. In the Ahrenburger Newspaper is an article concerning a new book which could be of interest to one or more of us. It is "Herzogtum Lauenburg - The Land and its History." It is 832 pages, published by Wachholtz Publishing, and costs about 48 European Euros. Leif Ganert ----- Original Message ----- From: "KayDee" <krdokken@usinternet.com> > For those of us that do not speak German but have an interest in > Lauenburg, Can someone please translate this posting into English?

Hello Lister New lister here post intrests Lutje/Lutge Mid 1800's back wards. Also can any one tell me where Ellyon Haven is It appears on a 1901 census as the place of birth for a Martin Lutge living in Grimbsy. Any information will be much appreciated. Regards Steve __________________________________________________________________ Stephen Goldsmith ICQ#: 152971949 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________________________

Hello Katharine you could read about a new book: "Herzogtum Lauenburg - das Land und seine Geschichte", der aktuelle Forschungsstand auf 832 Seiten, ist im Wachholtz Verlag erschienen und kostet 48 Euro. Lauenburg -the land and history, all what they found in archives you can read on 832 pages, to pay for the German book 48 Euros. Regards Klaus ----- Original Message ----- From: "KayDee" <krdokken@usinternet.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Re: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-D Digest V03 #234 > > For those of us that do not speak German but have an interest in > > Lauenburg, Can someone please translate this posting into English? > > > Thank you, > > Katharine > > > > > > Subject: > > [S-H-RTS] LAUENBURG > > From: > > Klaus.Riecken@t-online.de (Klaus Riecken) > > Date: > > Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:40:07 +0100 > > To: > > SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >ich leite weiter > >Gruß > >Klaus Riecken > >www.Riecken-online.de > > > >Hallo in die Runde, > > > >in der Ahrenburger Zeitung ist ein Artikel, der ein neues Buch beschreibt, dass evtl. auch für den einen oder anderen von uns interessant sein könnte: "Herrzogtum Lauenburg - das Land und seine Geschichte", der aktuelle Forschungsstand auf 832 Seiten, ist im Wachholtz Verlag erschienen und kostet 48 Euro. > > > >gez. Leif Ganert > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Leif.Glanert@t-online.de > >To: Plenum AGGSH > >Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:08 AM > >Subject: [AGGSH] Lauenburg > > > >______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

Hallo allerseits, hat jemand eine Idee wo ich Informationen zur deutschen Flak auf Sizilien im WK II finden kann und welchen Lehrgang die Person 1943 in Halle an der Saale gemacht hat? Bekannte Einheit: 2. Batterie Reserve Flak-Abt. 606 Die WaST hat leider keine ausreichenden Auskünfte geben können. Zu Lehrgängen haben die überhaupt nichts gesagt. Gruß Joachim Hello Listers, who knows where to find further informations on the german anti-aircraft forces during ww II on scicily. And what kind of course the soldier might have joined in 1943 in Halle / Saale. The 'Wehrmacht Auskunftstelle' WaST in Berlin couldn't help me much. They only told me start - end of service. Joachim -- Joachim Lietz +++ Hollwisch 10 +++ D - 24148 Kiel Motto: nihil sine ratio est

Richard: I don't think there is a connection here. Thank you anyway for your reply. Jerry Ingram _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

Klaus: Much to my disappointment, I cannot read or speak German. Thanks you anyway. Jerry Ingram _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio

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Dienstag, den 09.12.03: Jürgen Kawalek, Bibliothekar an der Schleswig-Holsteinischen Landesabibliothek: Familienschriften, Stammtafeln und Literatur in der Vereinsbibliothek Liebe Mitglieder, liebe Interessenten ich mache auf die Veranstaltung unseres Vereins aufmerksam. Beginn: 19:00 Uhr Königsweg 103 Kiel Viele Grüße Klaus Riecken

Hi to you Jerry, I have a Dorothea Kruse, born 1798 in Schl.-Holstein. Maybe she`s yours? Best regards from Schl.-Holstein, Hans (W.Selken) http://www.genealogy-sh.com/selken http://www.aggsh.de "Sharon Ingram" <ingramusa@hotmail.com> schrieb: > This is my first message to this particular site. > > I am looking for information on my great great grandfather JOHANN or JOHN > LOTH and his family. This family emigrated from S-H to America in 1857 from > Dersau, Schleswig-Holstein through Hamburg. They immigrated to Kendallville, > Indiana and then moved further west in the U.S. JOHANN married DORTHEA > KRUSE. They had four children, FREDRICKA, MARIE, WILHELM and CARL prior to > leaving Germany. This was a protestant family. Where would civil and church > records for Dersau be located in S-W? I understand using the LDS library, I > just need to know WHERE the records might have been housed. I would also > appreciate any additional information on the LOTH family in Dersau or that > area. Thank you. > > Jerry Ingram

This is my first message to this particular site. I am looking for information on my great great grandfather JOHANN or JOHN LOTH and his family. This family emigrated from S-H to America in 1857 from Dersau, Schleswig-Holstein through Hamburg. They immigrated to Kendallville, Indiana and then moved further west in the U.S. JOHANN married DORTHEA KRUSE. They had four children, FREDRICKA, MARIE, WILHELM and CARL prior to leaving Germany. This was a protestant family. Where would civil and church records for Dersau be located in S-W? I understand using the LDS library, I just need to know WHERE the records might have been housed. I would also appreciate any additional information on the LOTH family in Dersau or that area. Thank you. Jerry Ingram _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

> For those of us that do not speak German but have an interest in > Lauenburg, Can someone please translate this posting into English? Thank you, Katharine > > Subject: > [S-H-RTS] LAUENBURG > From: > Klaus.Riecken@t-online.de (Klaus Riecken) > Date: > Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:40:07 +0100 > To: > SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > >ich leite weiter >Gruß >Klaus Riecken >www.Riecken-online.de > >Hallo in die Runde, > >in der Ahrenburger Zeitung ist ein Artikel, der ein neues Buch beschreibt, dass evtl. auch für den einen oder anderen von uns interessant sein könnte: "Herrzogtum Lauenburg - das Land und seine Geschichte", der aktuelle Forschungsstand auf 832 Seiten, ist im Wachholtz Verlag erschienen und kostet 48 Euro. > >gez. Leif Ganert > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Leif.Glanert@t-online.de >To: Plenum AGGSH >Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:08 AM >Subject: [AGGSH] Lauenburg > >______________________________ > > >

Hallo in die Runde, Hello in the circle, in der Ahrenburger Zeitung ist ein Artikel, der ein neues Buch beschreibt, dass evtl. auch für den einen oder anderen von uns interessant sein könnte: "Herrzogtum Lauenburg - das Land und seine Geschichte", der aktuelle Forschungsstand auf 832 Seiten, ist im Wachholtz Verlag erschienen und kostet 48 Euro. In the Ahrenburger Newspaper is an article concerning a new book which could be of interest to one or more of us. It is "Herzogtum Lauenburg - The Land and its History." It is 832 pages, published by Wachholtz Publishing, and costs about 48 European Euros. Leif Ganert ----- Original Message ----- From: "KayDee" <krdokken@usinternet.com> > For those of us that do not speak German but have an interest in > Lauenburg, Can someone please translate this posting into English?

Try the language translation programs at http://members.cox.net/hessen/language.htm :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Ingram" <ingramusa@hotmail.com> Much to my disappointment, I cannot read or speak German. Thanks you anyway.

I to am searching the Frahm connection. My Ggrand mother was Anna Margaret Frahm from the town of (Dransau) I believe that is the correct spelling. She married John Peter Kohl from Laboe. Might this be a connection