That's an excellent response. Might pay off! :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Lawlor" <marthalawlor@cox-internet.com> I'm not sure what "a/a" means after Margaretha Rohwedder in your posting. However I do have a Margaretha Rohwedder, daughter of Marx Johannsen Rohwedder and Catherine Dethmann.

I'm not sure what "a/a" means after Margaretha Rohwedder in your posting. However I do have a Margaretha Rohwedder, daughter of Marx Johannsen Rohwedder and Catherine Dethmann. Marx and Catherine emigrated from Gaushorn, Diethmarchen, Schleswig-Holstein in 1852 with six or seven children. Margaretha was the first one born in the USA, in Cook County, Il in 1854. So she may be a namesake of another Margaretha Rohwedder. In some information that came from a researcher in Germany there is a Margareta Rohwedder born 31 March 1820 in Wrohm Ksp.,Tellingstedt,Holstein. She is the sister of the above mentioned Marx Johannsen Rohwedder. Let me know if you think this connects. I'll be happy to send you what info I have. Martha Lawlor Georgetown, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony@Martens" <martens@ihug.com.au> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Von-der-Geist > I am searching for the following names and towns in the county of > Dithmarschen, if anyone can help on confirmation and or family members > researching the same names and towns. That is without passing the buck to > some lame U.S. website. > > Names and Towns are as follows; > > Eggert MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH > Margaretha ROHWEDDER of a/a > > Jurgen Hinrich MARTENS of Lieth bei Heide SH, born; 1825 > Heinke Margaretha SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH, born; 1822 (or SCHOODT) > > Claus SCHODT of Wesseln bei Heide SH > Anna Catherina ROHOTE of a/a > > Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTENS of Leith bei Heide SH, born;1846 > > Regards > Tony Martens > > (and in German) > Sorry if my german is a bit off, I am very rusty. > Ich suche nach den folgenden Namen und den Städten in der Grafschaft von > Dithmarschen, wenn jedermann auf Bestätigung und oder den Familie > Mitgliedern helfen, welche kann die gleichen Namen und Städte erforschen. > Das ist, ohne den Dollar zu irgendeiner lahmer Vereinigte Staaten Web site > zu führen. > Namen und Städte sind wie folgt; > Eggert MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH > Margaretha ROHWEDDER von a/a > Jurgen Hinrich MARTEN/S von Lieth bei Heide SH, geboren; 1825 > Margaretha SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide SH, geboren; 1822 (oder SCHOODT) > Klaus SCHODT von Wesseln bei Heide > Anna Catherina ROHOTE von a/a > Johann Hinrich Nikolaus MARTEN/S von Leith bei Heide SH, geboren;1846 > > Respekt > Tony Martens > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm >

Liebe Mitleser, Geburt 04.11.1784 in DÜRRMENZ/Württemberg JOHANN GOTTLIEB WILHELM als uneheliches Kind: Eltern: Anna Maria REINHART, * 21.03.1756 ebd., + 25.03.1819 ebd. Johannes WILHELM, Schreiner, * 03.07.1760 ebd. auch bei der Konfirmation wird der Vater wie oben angegeben. Kirchengemeinde Süsel/Ostholstein, Heiratsregister 22.12.1811 : Johann Gottlieb Mei(y)er, Schustergesell zu Süsel, des weil. Hauswirth Johann Hinrich Mei(y)er und Anna Maria geb. Reinhart zu Dürrmenz im Württembergischen ehel. Sohn und Christina Frederica Block(en) zu Süsel, des weil. Böttchers Claus Hinrich Block und Anna Catharina Elisabeth, geb. Weden Die Zwischenzeit Konfirmation - Heirat liegt im Dunklen. Hinweise erwünscht und Ratschläge für das weitere Suchen erwünscht: : Wo lernte Johann Gottlieb Mei(y)er das Schusterhandwerk? Zunftunterlagen eventueller beteiligter Zünfte? Läßt sich eine eventuelle Wanderschaft finden? Wo? Wie? Warum und wo wurde der Name von Wilhelm in Mei(y)er gewechselt? Wo wurden die ersten Kinder des Schustergesellen geboren? Gibt es Nachweise über die Tätigkeiten des Schustergesellen in Süsel? Wie und wo erwarb man früher das Heimatrecht (Süsel oder Bentfeld in Ostholstein)? Gibt es Steuerlisten oder andere Nachweise der Ortschaften Süsel oder Bentfeld in Ostholstein? Rechtliche Abhandlung einer Namensänderung/Adoption im 19. Jahrhundert? Eine Genehmigung zur Heirat Johann Gottlieb Mei(y)er, Schustergesell mit Christina Frederica Block(en) zu Süsel erteilte das Amtshaus in Plön 30.11.1811. Gibt es noch Archivalien dieses Amtshauses? Bei möglicher Hilfestellung bitte wenden an: Gerhard Meier e-mail: Marianne.Meier@t-online.de Mit freundlichen Grüßen Klaus Riecken

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn" <rlevy1@bigpond.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: [S-H-RTS] BRENTZELL-UHLENHOFF > LOOKING FOR : > > CONRAD MARTIN BRENTZELL > BORN LAUENBERG 1788 > > MARIE SOPHIE UHLENHOFF > BORN LAUENBERG 1796 > > thankyou Robyn Levy...Australia > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

Liebe Familienforscher, Ich bekam folgende Anfrage und möchte sie weitergeben. Ich fand dazu unter Ellisisland Kummerfelds, die ich Ron sandte. Vielleicht hat jemand zu den Kummerfelds in Schönberg eine Verbindung? Jede Hilfe bitte direkt an Ron hoofbiz@blackfoot.net Gruß Klaus Riecken www.Riecken-online.de ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Kummerfeldt To: Klaus.Riecken@t-online.de Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:38 AM Subject: Kummerfeldt Hello Klaus A friend forwarded me your email since I too am a Kummerfeldt. I know very little about my ancestors. My father William (now deceased) was born in America. His father Johannes came to the USA from Schleswi-Holstein early in 1900, perhaps1901 or 1902. I do believe that it was a sailing ship that they came over on. I am interested in hearing from you. Regards Ronald Kummerfeldt

Dear Dean, my comment to your research for the birthplace of Claus Rohwedder is: "Von-der-Geist" probably means "Von der Geest". As you know that the County of Dithmarschen is devided into the flat area called "Marsch" and the hilly area called "Geest". Some towns have had different administrations like Meldorf-Marsch and Meldorf-Geest. So the name Geest gives not a town name. As you can see from my list of Rohwedder-emigrants in http://genealogy-sh.com/timm/index.htm that Rohwedder families lived in some towns of Dithmarschen County. The passenger lists of the port Hamburg show the last residence of the emigrants, not the birthplace. Gro?enrade belongs to the parish of Suderhastedt. Therefore my recommendation is to start your research at Suderhastedt and continue at the parishes along the border between Marsch and Geest, like Meldorf, Nordhastedt, Burg in Dithm. and Albersdorf. Good luck Klaus Timm -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: G. Dean Rohweder [mailto:rohwedgd@dpc.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2004 05:22 An: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: [S-H-RTS] Von-der-Geist I have an obituary that includes information about a Claus Rohwedder, born March 17, 1845 in Von-der-Geist. I can not find any reference to Von-der-Geist. The obituary also states that he immigrated to American in 1866 and from the ships register for the Germania we find a: C. Rohwedder, age 21, from Grossenrade which I believe is S.E. of Meldorf. He was a stone mason and he could have been living at Grossenrade when he emigrated from Schleswig-Holstein....which could explain the difference. Can anybody help me with deciphering the reference to Von-der-Geist. Danke Dean Rohweder

LOOKING FOR : CONRAD MARTIN BRENTZELL BORN LAUENBERG 1788 MARIE SOPHIE UHLENHOFF BORN LAUENBERG 1796 thankyou Robyn Levy...Australia

I have an obituary that includes information about a Claus Rohwedder, born March 17, 1845 in Von-der-Geist. I can not find any reference to Von-der-Geist. The obituary also states that he immigrated to American in 1866 and from the ships register for the Germania we find a: C. Rohwedder, age 21, from Grossenrade which I believe is S.E. of Meldorf. He was a stone mason and he could have been living at Grossenrade when he emigrated from Schleswig-Holstein....which could explain the difference. Can anybody help me with deciphering the reference to Von-der-Geist. Danke Dean Rohweder

Hi folks, I am still searching for available records for my husband's great grandparents who immigrated in 1870-71. Henry (Probably Heinrich) Langrehr came in 1870 but we have not found him on the Hamburg Ship manifest lists. Ida Marie Heidemann Langrehr came in 1871 with three children. We have found her on the Hamburg lists which say she came from Elmshorn. Can someone give me an idea about what records might be available from Elmshorn for this period other than the church records and census records filmed by the Latter Day Saints? We don't know whether either of them were born in Elmshorn, but their children might have been. Did they need to get permission to leave the country? Are their employment records? Anything else? Here is what we have been able to put together so far from U.S. census records and the Hamburg ship manifest: 1. HEINRICH HENRY2 LANGREHR (UNKNOWN1) was born Abt. February 1840 in Hamburg, Germany. He married IDA MARIE HEITMANN Abt. 1860 in Germany, daughter of UNKNOWN HEITMANN. She was born Abt. July 1839 in Possibly Elmshorn, Holstein, Germany. Children of HEINRICH LANGREHR and IDA HEITMANN are: i. WILHELMINA MINNIE3 LANGREHR, b. Bef. 25 June 1864 ii. HEINRICH HENRY LANGREHR, JR., b. Abt. 1866. iii. UNKNOWN LANGREHR, b. Abt. 1868. iv. WILHELM LANGREHR, b. Abt. 1870. v. UNKNOWN LANGREHR, b. Abt. 1872. vi. ANNIE LANGREHR, b. Bef. 25 June 1874, New Jersey. vii. JOHN LANGREHR, b. Bef. 25 June 1875, New Jersey; m. MARY NN, Abt. 1890. viii. CHARLES LANGREHR, b. March 1877, New Jersey. ix. HENRY LANGREHR, JR., b. Bef. 25 June 1878, New Jersey; m. ALICE UNKNOWN; b. Abt. 1879. x. DOROTHY JOSEPHINE LANGREHR, b. 20 June 1880, *33 Bonner Ave, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ; d. 15 October 1947, *Cranston, Providence, RI; m. JOHN V. SCHNEIDER, 03 March 1899, *Jersey City, Hudson, NJ; b. 05 April 1875, *Raritan, Somerset, NJ; d. 12 January 1935, *502 Wellington Ave., Cranston, Providence, RI. xi. LOUIS LANGREHR, b. November 1881, New Jersey; d. Bef. 1968; m. MARY T. MAIER/MEYERS, Abt. 1903; b. 10 March 1883, New Jersey; d. January 1968. We will be traveling to Europe this May/June and would like to visit Elmshorn. Anything there we can do research with? Thanks for any help. Dotty Sprague Cole Lake Mary, Florida, USA

Liebe Familienforscher, durch Zufall bekam ich in die Hand: Otto Neumann, Itzehoe Das holsteinische Gut Nütschau in: Heimatkundliches Jahrbuch für den Kreis Segeberg, 1981, S 70 - 82 Viele Grüße klaus Riecken www.Riecken-online.de NAMEN: im Dorfe SÜHLEN: Erbpächter Timm Riecken Hinrich Drewes Johann Riecken Bauernkathen von: Bauernvogt Timm Riecken Johann Riecken Hinrich Riecken Hinrich Drews, Hinrich Drews Hinrich Drews Erbpachtmüller Detklev Cornelsen Erpächter Claus Riecken Hans Drews Handwerker und Käthner: Hans Hinrich Riecken Johann Korn Johann Hinrich Drews Christian Riecken Claus Ramm Einwohner Detlev Martens Schuster Trencktrog DORF VINZIER Erbpächter Hans Hinrich Kröger Timm Riecken Peter Hinrich Sorgenfrei Johann Riecken Weber Hagemann Hans Ralfs Peter Reimer, Krüger Hans Joachim Riecken Peters, Öl- und Graupenmüller Joh. Friedrich Rothe, Bäcker Joch. Friedrich Ehlers, Nebenwohnung Hans Voß, Erbpächter J. H. Pölsen, Erbpächter, Hofkrüger Johann Peter, Erbpächter, Höker Jürgen Alb. Saß Erbp., Hofschmidt Claus Danger Peter Schöttler Hans Detl. Bargmann, Erbpächter Hans Hinrich Schacht, Erbpächter J.H. Grube, Erbp., Zimmermann Jürgen Lüer, Witwe, Seideler Müller Klingenberg Michel Heuer Schuldenlast des Gutes Nütschau 1791: Auflistung von Gutsangehörigen, die noch Geld zu bekommen haben: Holländer Jacob Petersen Handlungsbedienter Zwilgmeyer Schiffbaumeister Hans Hennings zu Neustadt Schmied Jürgen Albrecht Saß, Nütschau Holzwächter Müller Dienstboten Haushälterin Margaretha Sophia Rickern Küchenmädchen Catharina Ehlers Hausmädchen Maria Elisabeth Jessen Viehmädgen Gretje Deisters (Hühnermagd) Jäger Roß Gärtner Johann Christian Daniel Sch+mann Bedienter Christian Möller Vogt Rieken Kutscher Claus Wulffen Bauknecht Hans Jürgen Wendt Kuhhirte Gäde Schweinehirte Dürkop Holländer Petersen Meyereidirne Catharina Petersen Meyereidirne Christine Schusler Weiter folgt ein Erbpachts-Contract (Breitenburger Archiv) als Wiedergabe Weiter folgt: Die Bedingungen, unter welchen das Adelige Gut Nütschau an den Meistbietenden verkauft werden soll. ICH HABE KEINE WEITEREN KENNTNISSE. Gruß Klaus Riecken

Hello Ivan, My grgrandfather was friends with a Baron Detlev von Liliencron in Hamburg - Rahlstedt, where he died and is buried a few feet away from my kin's grave. This Detlev was born in 1844 in Kiel, died 1909. I have a little booklet on him in German. He was Soldier, Vogt in Pellworm and Kellinghusen and a much revered Poet. I have his birth certificate printed in a book, easy to read. I realize that he is not the one you are looking for, but thought that there might be a connection. He could have been a namesake of a relative 2 generations before? If your Detlev died in 1749 he was only about 25 years old. I wonder how he became Rittmeister and Master of Schirnau at such an early age. Inherited the lot? I went to familysearch but somehow only came up with what I had. I wonder how Ron did get 13 Liliencron's. I know someone who might be able to give me more info backwards on my Detlev . Am going to Germany in 5 weeks. Let me know what you think. Margarete Crossland AZ

Liebe Familienforscher, 1692 gab es einen Wilken Thede, Amtsschneidermeister in Plön. Er wird in der Plöner Schoß-Liste 1692 genannt Sohn Hans Ernst Thede starb 27.8.1695 in Plön. Wilken Thede war verheiratet mit Dorothea Eleonora NN welche als Wittwe am 4.10.1692 in Plön den Bürgermeister und Schneidermeister Andreas Londen heiratet. Mehr ist nicht bekannt. Gibt es Hinweise oder aber direkte weiterführende Informationen? Vielen Dank im voraus. Mit freundlichen grüßen Klaus Riecken www.Riecken-online.de

Go first to your area FHC. If not there, go to http://go.to/hessen, Research 101. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <SLL260A@aol.com> Any help greatly appreciated. Have never researched outside of U.S. before.

Have just received naturalization papers of my great-great-uncle and it states he was born in Massen or possibly Masson Germany. Family stated they were from Schleswig Holstein. Need help finding out where this is and what step to take next. Hoping information on this uncle will lead me to his family and thus my grandfather's information. Looking for information on Michael Pieper (Pfeiffer? and wife Louise Gorse (?) Pieper b:8 January 1826 Children Charles b: 8 Dec 1859, Herman b: ? Albert b: 26 Feb 1865, and Ferdinand b: 1846, and Hannah b: unk. Michael died in Germany and Louise married Ernest Wendt b: 25 Jan 1849. Ernest, Louise and Albert traveled to the US arriving New York from Hamburg 15 Sep 1884 on the SS Lessing. Any help greatly appreciated. Have never researched outside of U.S. before. Thank you - Susan.

Would like info on John/Johann Becker b. 1802/03 Holstein. Wife Dora ? b. 1802/03, and son Henry/Henriech b. 1834 Holstein. Thank any one for any help. I seem to have hit a brick wall with this family. Joan

I have the same basic problem as the Riss researcher with my great grand parents, Henry Lotz and Geesche Mohn. There is a death notice in the local newspaper for Henry but no death certificate and no idea who his parents might be or where he came from other than the census which says "Holstein". Geesche has both a death certificate with her father's name and a death notice so there is some clue for her. What provides hope at this point is that I have found a prospective brother for Henry by just reading through the census one name at a time where Henry lived. I have searched the U. S. census and the ship passenger lists at NARA, California death index, death notices in local newspapers, etc. etc. If you are interested in the details of my search check either of the web links noted below. The places I've looked and the methods I've used. There might be some ideas. I have identified records that should add important details, but they are in California and I am in Virginia and I can't get anyone's attention in California to retrieve the records. This is a work in progress and there are likely to be some updates in the next week or two. This from my research and not from the stuff in California:-( Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://sdmbizlists.home.infionline.net/LotzGene.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~smcleod/LotzGene.html genealogy@broadrunit.com

I am trying to find information on my gggrandmother Sophia (Lizzie) Riss born May 1819 in Germany. I don't have her maiden name or where she lived in Germany. On the 1900 census in Ransom, Illinois she was listed as a widow who had 4 children all living and was living with her daughter Eliza & son-in-law Carl Joachim Gernentz. She died 19 May 1903 & buried in Allen cemetery in Ransom, Illinois. Death certificate showed just date of birth and death. No obituary filed. Would appreciate any help. She is my "brick wall." Mary Lou

ivan nichols wrote: > Hello group, > > I'm hoping that someone might be able to point me to an internet > source where I might find information concerning von Liliencron. > > The one I am interested in was the owner of the Gut Schirnau > (Bünsdorf, Eckernförde) in 1782. A plaque at Schirnau reads > 'Dettlev:Baron v. Liliengron 1782' > www.familysearch.org has 13 entries for the surname Liliencron, mostly from Germany and Denmark. However none of these matches with your person of interest. Good luck Ron Martell Microsoft MVP http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

I am searching for information on WULF family dating to mid 1800's in Schulbusch. There were two brothers, Fred and August. I believe Fred's full legal name was Asmus Herman Fredinand Wulf, but I am not certain that is the correct order. I also am not certain if it was "Fredinand" or "Ferdinand" - it could have been mis-spelled. Fred was born circa 1854, left Germany at age 15 to go to sea, and settled in Oregon USA circa 1889. He married in 1891. I have no information other than this about his parents or past family in Germany.

Hello group, I'm hoping that someone might be able to point me to an internet source where I might find information concerning von Liliencron. The one I am interested in was the owner of the Gut Schirnau (Bünsdorf, Eckernförde) in 1782. A plaque at Schirnau reads 'Dettlev:Baron v. Liliengron 1782' I did find this information at Google: Detlev VON LILIENCRON BERUF: Rittmeister und Herr zu Schirnau GEBURT: 21 Jun 1725 TOD: 1749 Vater: Paul Adalbert VON LILIENCRON Mutter: Dorothea Ölgard RANTZAU Any ideas for further searches? Regards from Ivan Nichols ..