Hi, Please check the website you show on your email. I receive message "cannot be found" either by clicking your meesage or by copy and paste into URL ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChoCompany@aol.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:25 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Island of Foehr > Hello, > I have about 6,000 ancestors from the Island of Foehr on my website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccho/Cards/WC_TOC.HTM > > Most of the information came from church records. If you know your ancestors > came from the island, the information may already be on my site. The people > from this island emigrated primarily to New York, Iowa, and California. I > believe many also went to South America and Australia. In the 1800's many of the > men were sailors and sea captains, so they sailed all over the world. If > anyone has additional information about the island, pictures, stories etc., > please email me. > > Carol > California > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

Liebe Listenleser, ich erhielt heute von Hans Peter Voss die folgende Nachricht/den Hinweis. Ich danke im Namen der SHFam für dieses bisherige Ergebnis und die geleistete Arbeit. Ich erhoffe mir von vielen Mitgliedern das Einreichen Ihrer Ergebnisse oder die Beteiligung an der Aufarbeitung des C-Bestandes (Nachlässe in der Bibliothek der SHFam). Wer Interesse hat, sich über den C-Bestand zu erkundigen, gehe zu: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/SHFam//bibliothek.html und wähle bestandc.txt (300kB) Es handelt sich um eine Auflistung vom ehemaligen Mitglied Johannes Witt, die er uns dankenswerter Weise zur Verfügung stellte. Viele Grüße Klaus Riecken, Kassenwart der SHFam e.V. Hallo in die Runde, In der Zusammenarbeit (Indizierung des Bestandes C der SHFam e.V.) von der SHFam e.V. und der AGGSH e.V. haben wir bereits 9.419 Personendaten online: http://www.aggsh.de/shfam/index.html MfG - Hans Peter Voss

Hallo, Listmembers, yes, is has been very quiet in the last weeks or so. here is my querie; Johann Lüdemann, * about 1697 in Neuenbrook ?, ? 19. August 1757 in Grönland. We have no details about his wife at all. He must have been married because there are two sons: 1. Jacob Lüdemann, * 21. May 1730 in Grönland ? 5. January 1805 in Neuenbrook oo 11. May 1786 Trina Bollen, * 3. January 1766 in Heiligenstedten ? ??? 1850 in Herzhorn 2. Peter Lüdemann. We have no dates at all. Is there anybody that has more information on Johann Lüdemann and his wife and maybe also on the parents of Trina Bollen. Her father was Johann Bollen ( no dates ) Her mother was Magdalena Piening ( 1739 - 1780 ) We would be grateful for any correspondence in this matter It can also be in the German language. Tschüss, Hannes Jansen jansens@omcs.com.au

I was able to obtain birth,marriage and death copies from Kiel, Flensburg and Elmshorn by writing to the churches and sending as much information as I had on my great-grandparents, they all send me the copies( for a price) and often send me information of some of the relatives, also the archives on those cities have been very helpful. One thing I have on my favor all of them were pastors and their and professors. Hope this helps. Ida Francke Hall Burbank,Ca.

Hans Peter Thankyou for this information. SAD very sad, we only have 75 years hold on ours here. And for people whose family gone that is to long. Susi in San Diego, Ca SusiCP@aol.com

Hi all, In the hopes that something new has turned up, I'll post again. I'm looking for information on the special imperial cavalry contingent from Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf sent to help the during the War of Spanish Succession. They fought in today's southern Germany and also in Alsace-Lorraine. My ancestor was the cavalry captain Georg Andreas HARTWIG, born about 1666, died 1736 in Birkenau, Kreis Heppenheim, Hessen. We believe he was not from S-H (he was a lieutenant in Wolfenbüttel in 1701, but we don't have any further information about origins). He had a number of children during his time in the military (1703-1712), but I don't know where to find any of their birth records. Ideas? Rose Green Hallo List, als einige Zeit seit ich geschrieben habe schon vorbeigegangen ist, versuche ich es nochmal. Ich suche Information über einen besonderen Reichskontingent von Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorf im spanischen Erbfolgekrieg (1703-1712). Mein Vorvater, Georg Andreas HARWTIG, war Rittmeister und Kompaniechef. Wir glauben, dass er NICHT aus S-H stammte (1701 war er Leutnant in Wolfenbüttel, aber mehr wissen wir nicht). Als er Rittmeister für S-H-G war, ist ihm mehrere Kinder geboren, aber ich weiss nicht, wo ich solche Dataien herausfinden kann. Ideen? Grüße aus Charleston, Süd Karolina, USA Rose Green _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/

Hello Susi, I have used the wrong words! What I wanted to say is: It is not allowed to research relatives by using the church books and/or the civil registry records in the time frame 1876 until today. I list the law in parts: === A - Civil registry office The right to have issued the documents and/or provision of information from the register is limited to those relatives of direct ascending or descending lineage. Siblings, children of siblings, siblings of parents or grandparents and other distant relatives of the specific person, do not belong to the group of people given access to these documents, unless they can prove to authorities to have a legal interest. If an applicant needs these documents and/or information not for a legal claim, but for private research purposes, then legal interest cannot be implied from article 5 of the Basic Law; the right to free research is limited when it involves third parties. Only with appropriate consent by the individual, the spouse and/or the ancestors or descendants can an applicant, who does not belong to this group of relatives, be issued a document or other information pertaining to this person. B - Church records With the empirical law on registration of births, marriages and deaths the meaning of the church book as official register expired as of 1.Januar 1876. The entries in the church books since then, only record the official religious acts; therefore issue of official documents is exclusively done by the Civil Registrar's Office. Access to thus permitted only if the inquiry refers to religious actions. Additionally, several different criteria must be fulfilled for the use of church books prior to 1876: - The entry refers to the individual, their spouse or ancestor. (para. 9 (1) ArchivG) - or - The person can make a legal and valid claim regarding an entry - or - The use serves a concrete scientific or community service project Because genealogical research serves exclusively personal interests and not documentation of religious acts, the use of church books after 1876 for this reason is not permitted. (Exception: Proof that official Civil Registry documents were lost or destroyed) === A more detailed text to this is online here: http://www.genealogy-sh.de/E/law.htm === Regards, Hans Peter Voss

Good Morning I have just read the information supplied by Hans-Peter Voss. I qualify on all counts: my grandparents lived in Kiel most of their lives ( One set of grandparents from before the First War, and the second from just after the First War.) Yet I cannot get any information from any record officer in Kiel. There should be records since all the grandparents died between 1946-1980 Any suggestions? Rolf.

Searching for my great grand-mother KELTING, she is listed in the USA after 1852 in various records with given names of Henrietta, Clementine and Catharine, in one instance all name are given. She married Gustav, Karl, Adolph [von] Mechow. He was stationed in Rendsburg, Schleswig-Holstein where he signed documents as a Lieutenant as v. Mechow. He married Kelting some time in 1850-51 and came to the USA. In US 1880 census records Henrietta Kelting lists her origin as Hamburg. I am looking for Birth Records for Kelting. Marriage records for both of them. And immigration records. If anyone has information on either of these ancestors - I would appreciate hearing from you. Gustav von Mechow was born in Lauban Prussia in 1828 to Hienrich Wilhelm v. Mechow and Johanna Friederick Sonderop. Thanks. Ted Have a Great day & Praise the Lord for all he has done for us! Ted Have a Great day & Praise the Lord for all he has done for us!

Dear Members, It seemed to be very quiet on this list at the present time. But we have 668 subscribers at the present time! So feel free to post some info about your family-research - maybe someone has the same ancestors as you. Post the names of your ancestors, the name of the villages and a time frame of your search too. I did this in the last days on a German Mailinglist, and found a new long distant relative. He sent me a lot of info about distant relatives, of whom I did never know anything before (the research of relatives is not allowed in Germany, so I had no chance to find them without the help of distant relatives). I wish you luck in your research. By the way - I have a new layout on some of my websites: My family-tree is here: http://home.t-online.de/home/hans-peter.voss/voss/e/index.htm My sites about genealogy in Schleswig-Holstein are here: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/index.htm and here: http://www.hans-peter-voss.de/gen/e/index.htm Regards, Hans Peter Voss - Listowner SH-ROOTS

Hans Peter Voss Please explain Germany does not allow research of family? Susi

Klaus Riecken, thank you for this website. It is one youcan loose yourself in. Some stories of my ancestors make more sense now. Komplizierte Geschichte! I appreciate any link that comes my way, don't spend much time surfing. Thank you again Margarete C. AZ

Dear Max Guldberg, Heidenreich, Heydenreich or Heydenryke are old farmer families of the Krempermarsch area since 500 years. If you want to find old documents of the family you must look for old estate contracts in the Schleswig-Holstein Archives of Schleswig. An old beautiful Heydenreich farmhouse of 1711 was rebuilt in the farmhouse museum of Molfsee near Kiel. Klaus Timm

whould love a copy of what you have, to put in my OTHER SKOW"S folder.... today I would say we are not connected but who knows what may connect us tomorrow. I have the decndants of my Martin but nothing on his immediate family .... but I am willing also to share what I have. thanks again Esther ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Bentley" <RBentley@inreach.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Re: #24, SKOW/SKOV/SCHOU > Esther: > > I have a Martin SKOW in my tree, too, but he was U.S. born (Iowa, 1872), > "baby" brother of: Jorgen Nissen, my grandfather Nis, Theodor, and > Christian, who were all born in Oster Lindet. Their mother was Kirsten > Marie MIKKELSEN (b. abt. 1840, place not yet known), 2nd wife of Jorgen > Nissen SKOV, who was born in Bjerning, 1804. > The elder Jorgen had an earlier wife, Anne Dorthe WIBORG, and that union > produced about 14 children - all born in Bjerning - including two Marens > (b. 1830 & 1835) but no Martin. > My elder Jorgen appears to be the first to use the SKOV / SKOW / SCHOU > name. He was son of Nis Lauesen (b. 1751, Bjerning) and a Catharine > Marie Christensdr. > Earlier than that becomes confusing, but Nis Lauesen appears to be the > son of Laue Nissen (b. 1730, Bjerning) and a Maria Pedersdr. > My research had had me coming across "those other Iowa Skows" for some > time now. I regret that I haven't kept better track of them. I'd be > happy to share the details of "my" SKOWs if you're interested. > > --RB > Martinez, CA > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > >

Esther: I have a Martin SKOW in my tree, too, but he was U.S. born (Iowa, 1872), "baby" brother of: Jorgen Nissen, my grandfather Nis, Theodor, and Christian, who were all born in Oster Lindet. Their mother was Kirsten Marie MIKKELSEN (b. abt. 1840, place not yet known), 2nd wife of Jorgen Nissen SKOV, who was born in Bjerning, 1804. The elder Jorgen had an earlier wife, Anne Dorthe WIBORG, and that union produced about 14 children - all born in Bjerning - including two Marens (b. 1830 & 1835) but no Martin. My elder Jorgen appears to be the first to use the SKOV / SKOW / SCHOU name. He was son of Nis Lauesen (b. 1751, Bjerning) and a Catharine Marie Christensdr. Earlier than that becomes confusing, but Nis Lauesen appears to be the son of Laue Nissen (b. 1730, Bjerning) and a Maria Pedersdr. My research had had me coming across "those other Iowa Skows" for some time now. I regret that I haven't kept better track of them. I'd be happy to share the details of "my" SKOWs if you're interested. --RB Martinez, CA

Liebe Leser und Interessierte des Themas "Kolonisten" in Schleswig-Holstein, Unter http://www.geschichte.schleswig-holstein.de/themadesmonatsindex.htm gibt es einen beitrag zu diesem Tema. Gruß Klaus Riecken www.Riecken-online.de

Hi Rich My great-grandfather Martin Skow (plus numerous spellings of last name) come from Haderslev area here is what I have.. I have parents name according to LDS but no siblings.... does he fit any where with you? Martin Nielson SKOV1,2, born 24 Sep 1846 in Anslet, Fjelstrup, Haderslev, Denmark; died 7 Apr 1920 in Armstrong, Iowa. He was the son of 12. Mads SORENSEN SKOV and 13. Maren HANSDATTER. He married 7. Kyestine Marie Jorgensen 2 Jun 1877 in Sabula, Iowa. Kyestine Marie Jorgensen/Johnson, born 6 Jan 1851 in Christianfeldt, Allo, Denmark; died 5 Jan 1935 in Armstrong, Iowa ( at home ). I have complete names on children of Martin and Kyestine. I am eagerly awaiting your reply Esther Tripp LuVerne, Iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Bentley" <RBentley@inreach.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: [S-H-RTS] SKOW/SKOV/SCHOU Hello: New to list. Anyone else working SKOW/SKOV/SCHOU name in Haderslev? I'm particularly interested in Jorgen Nissen SKOV b: Bjerning 1804, m: Anne Dorthe Wiborg 1827. After 14? children and passing of 1st wife, he settles in Oster Lindet with 2nd wife, Kirsten Mikkelsen in 1862. After 4 more sons born there, family emigrates, arrives USA 1871. --RB ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm

My Grandparents came from Bargum Schleswig Holstein in 1882. He also was born in 1852 and probably came because of the wars. His wife was Paulena Hansen born in Denmark .Johannson was change to Hansen in USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Rains" <blessedmomof8@bellsouth.net> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 3:34 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] New to list My ancestors came from Schleswig/Holstien, the Pohl family. And I've always thought Pohl sounded very German, but my family also states that they are most definitely Danish! What I do know is that during the time that Hans Jacob Fredrick Pohl was a young man there was a war (and from research, it seems as though this piece of land has been in dispute for ages upon ages), and he refused to fight against his own people (he was born in 1853). So, he left Denmark at age 18 for New York. Name: Pohl, Jacob Frederik Occupation: Landmand Age: 18 Destination: New York Contract no.: 405800 Registration date: 6/6/1872 Last res. parish: ? Last res. county: - Slesvig Last residence: Slesvig Destination country: USA Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State Name of ship: Indirekte IDcode: I7273P0505 He went to Iowa and married Johanna Hansen. He is found in Hampton, Franklin Co., Iowa. He goes back to Denmark to visit family when he is 33: Name: Pohl, Jacob Occupation: Købmand Age: 33 Destination: New York Contract no.: 99700 Registration date: 3/28/1887 Last res. parish: ? Last res. county: - Amerika Last residence: Amerika Destination country: USA Destination city: New York City Destination state: New York State Name of ship: Hekla Remarks: ANM: Hekla. IDcode: D8587P3201 And during this visit he is given a week to gather his things and visit and told he may not ever return by the government. As far as we know, he never returned home. I don't know who the parents of Johanna Hansen are, but the baptisms of their children are recorded at the Trinity Lutheran Church in Franklin Co., IA. Their oldest son is my grandmother's father, Hans Sophus Jacob Pohl. My grandmother is 93 and still living. She recently gave me pictures of her parents, and I would like to be able to have a few more things to tell her about her own family before she goes on to be with Jesus! Blessings, Jill Watters Rains ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm

Hello: New to list. Anyone else working SKOW/SKOV/SCHOU name in Haderslev? I'm particularly interested in Jorgen Nissen SKOV b: Bjerning 1804, m: Anne Dorthe Wiborg 1827. After 14? children and passing of 1st wife, he settles in Oster Lindet with 2nd wife, Kirsten Mikkelsen in 1862. After 4 more sons born there, family emigrates, arrives USA 1871. --RB

Is there a village in Lauenburg which begins with "Hanse" or "Hansz". On the manifest of the Vandalia leaving Hamburg on May 4th, 1872 the village is difficult to read. I am looking for my Wille family. Heinrich born abt 1821 and Elisabeth born 1852. They were Lutheran. Thank you, . Marlene Sioux Falls, SD