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    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Giekau-Mineola Workshop about here
    2. gordon R
    3. Hello Gary, Could you add these families? Wilhemina Giese born 11 Apr 1852 and died 12 Aug 1917 Avoca, Ia Married Heinrich Wolf(e) 14 Sep 1882 in Germany. Hinrich Voss born 1660 in Appen. Married Trina. Had one son Johann Joachin Voss born ca 1690 at Appen, married 1715 to Anna Kroger born 1690. They had one daughter Anna Catharina Voss born 1723 and died 1764. Married 1748 to Marten Freudenberg of Heidrege. August Wolf(e) born 1830 and died 1913 at Avoca Ia. Married to Carolina Baumann born 25 Dec 1838 and died 11 Dec 1908 at Avoca. Regards, Gordon Rieber 3401 7th Ave CB, Ia 51501 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Huffner5@aol.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Giekau-Mineola Workshop about here > Dear Group: > Just 4 more days before the Giekau,Holstein-Mineola, Iowa Family > History Fair. > First I would like to thank everyone that has helped me with this project, I > would like to name names but sure as the dickens I would forget someone. > Several German researchers have sent information, maps and census records and > history of the area and Schleswig/Holstein. Many family members have sent family > charts of their family surname and descendancy charts. To date 155 have > pre-registered and who knows how many are just going to show up without > registration. > If someone wants to send me an E-mail about your family that you are > researching from either the Giekau area or Schleswig/Holstein that involves one > of these family names I will put it on the board and on the family table for > all to see. > The names are: Bichel, Carstens, Dorhman, Dorman(n), Dose, Doose, Dohse, > Ehlers, Giese, Hammer, Hansen, Jurgens (was Jurgensen), Kay, Kahl, Kruse, > Lamp, Lau, Loof, Luth, Matthiensen, Möller(Miller), Müller,Nagel,Nipp, Rohrberg, > Roenfeld, Roenfeldt, Scheel, Schoening, Schroeder, Schutt, Steffens, > Strohbehn, Stumpf, Thiering, Vohs, Voss, Wiese,Wolf,Wulf. > There may be more but this is what we have so far with a Giekau, > Mineola connection. There will be two sections for display one with each of the > above families with a table for pictures, artifacts and genealogy material, the > other part will be tables for the Friends and Neighbors of Giekau families to > display just genealogy information. This table could have information on it > from Selent Church District, Lutjenburg Church District, and the Probstei area. > If you want to have something on one of the tables it is not to late. Send it > to me and I can print it off. > Thank you again for all your help, > Gary Schoening > 204 Harolds Drive > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm >

    06/23/2004 11:38:43
    1. Giekau-Mineola Workshop about here
    2. Dear Group: Just 4 more days before the Giekau,Holstein-Mineola, Iowa Family History Fair. First I would like to thank everyone that has helped me with this project, I would like to name names but sure as the dickens I would forget someone. Several German researchers have sent information, maps and census records and history of the area and Schleswig/Holstein. Many family members have sent family charts of their family surname and descendancy charts. To date 155 have pre-registered and who knows how many are just going to show up without registration. If someone wants to send me an E-mail about your family that you are researching from either the Giekau area or Schleswig/Holstein that involves one of these family names I will put it on the board and on the family table for all to see. The names are: Bichel, Carstens, Dorhman, Dorman(n), Dose, Doose, Dohse, Ehlers, Giese, Hammer, Hansen, Jurgens (was Jurgensen), Kay, Kahl, Kruse, Lamp, Lau, Loof, Luth, Matthiensen, Möller(Miller), Müller,Nagel,Nipp, Rohrberg, Roenfeld, Roenfeldt, Scheel, Schoening, Schroeder, Schutt, Steffens, Strohbehn, Stumpf, Thiering, Vohs, Voss, Wiese,Wolf,Wulf. There may be more but this is what we have so far with a Giekau, Mineola connection. There will be two sections for display one with each of the above families with a table for pictures, artifacts and genealogy material, the other part will be tables for the Friends and Neighbors of Giekau families to display just genealogy information. This table could have information on it from Selent Church District, Lutjenburg Church District, and the Probstei area. If you want to have something on one of the tables it is not to late. Send it to me and I can print it off. Thank you again for all your help, Gary Schoening 204 Harolds Drive Glenwood, Iowa 51534

    06/22/2004 06:44:45
    1. Ehevertrag 1809 / marriage contract 1809 in Holstein
    2. Joachim Lietz
    3. english text below. Hallo in die Runde, mich interessiert nach Erhalt von Kopien aus dem LAS zu einem Ehevergleich von 1809 zwischen dem Hufner Heerde in Braak und seiner 2. Frau aus Farmsen folgende Frage: Wer bestimmte für die Frau (damals 22 J., 1. Eheschließung) und nach welchen Kriterien die Vormünder bei der Abfassung des Ehevergleichs? Die Vormünder kamen in diesem Fall, wie die Ehefrau, beide aus Farmsen. Gleiche Frage gilt aber auch für die Vormünder ihres Stiefsohnes (Sohn des Ehemannes aus 1. Ehe). Von diesen kam einer aus Schönningstedt und der andere ist der Bruder des Ehemannes aus dem Dorf Braak. Überhaupt ist mir neulich beim Blättern in den Protokollen öfter aufgefallen, daß die Frauen häufig einen Vormund oder Curator mithatten, wenn es um Verträge ging. Was hatte so ein Mensch zu tun? Gruß Joachim Hi folks, please forgive me my bad english, but I just got some copies from the Schleswig-Holstein Archieve in Schleswig concerning an marriage contract in 1809 between the Hufner HEERDE in Braack (Amt Reinbek/ southern part of Holstein) and his 2. wife who came from Farmsen (nowadays part of Hamburg). and I want to learn what were the rules for someone to take the guardianship for the bride. Who 'selected' why whom? (The bride and the two guardians came from Farmsen, but I couldn't see a relationship) Same question: who choosed the guardians of her stepson (son of the actual groom). One was the brother of the groom and came also from Braak and again no relationship with the 2nd, who came from a village some Kilometers away. What were the duties of the "Curator" or guardian? regards Joachim -- Joachim Lietz +++ D - 24148 Kiel looking for HEERDE, OHLEN and ELLERBROCK from southern Holstein and BEUCHE, SPRINGER and PUTZING in Sachsen-Anhalt

    06/22/2004 03:06:45
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Gordon R inquiry
    2. gordon R
    3. Greetings John, My forst Bornholdt is Johann born 1649 at Bokel and died 22 Aug 1696 at Bokel. He married anna Mohr born 1663 at Bokel and died 28 Oct 1723. They married 7 Apr 1689. They had at least one son Peter born 1696 at Bokel and died bef 1750. He married Anna Krohn born 1695 at Bokel and died 24 Nov 1734. They married 28 Dec 1719. They had at least one son Peter born 1725 at Hornerkirchen and married 24 Oct 1759 to Margaretha Eggers born 1736 or Bockholt. They had at least one daughter Abel born 1772 and married 24 Apr 1800 to Marx Rieber of Hornerkirchen. Marx is my gggrandfather. Regards, Gordon Rieber ----- Original Message ----- From: <JBornho664@aol.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Gordon R inquiry > Gordon R: > My immigrant grandfather Hans Jürgen Albert Bornholdt *1854 Oha imm abt 1870 > lived NYC to abt 1904 then Philadelphia +1921 Philly. Have much information > about family back to 1500 in Oha, Barmstedt, Renzel, Bilsen. > Am in contact with Hauschildt researcher in Hamburg who has supplied much > information about early Bornholdt members in Holstein. Also have much > information about Bornholdt's who came to America, were descended from them, or married > into the families. > John W. Bornholdt > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm >

    06/21/2004 11:50:30
    1. Gordon R inquiry
    2. Gordon R: My immigrant grandfather Hans Jürgen Albert Bornholdt *1854 Oha imm abt 1870 lived NYC to abt 1904 then Philadelphia +1921 Philly. Have much information about family back to 1500 in Oha, Barmstedt, Renzel, Bilsen. Am in contact with Hauschildt researcher in Hamburg who has supplied much information about early Bornholdt members in Holstein. Also have much information about Bornholdt's who came to America, were descended from them, or married into the families. John W. Bornholdt

    06/21/2004 07:28:40
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Brinhoff, Dittmeyer, Pieper.
    2. susan oliver
    3. --- WJones3606@aol.com wrote: > Susan, > > I sense you may not have gone to the LDS online > info. All three names are > there in abundance, though that still may not mean > the specific ones you are > researching are there. Nevertheless, a visit there > may help you over the brick > wall. I sympathize because I'm stuck relative to > ancestors in SH too. > > Go to htttp://www.familysearch.org. See the second > column headed "Search for > Ancestors", then click on the second bullet down > "Search for your ancestors in > our vast records collections." It's the site of the > Church of the Latter Day > Saints whose objective for decades has been to > collect records worldwide that > will eventually lead back to Adam and Eve. You could > easily get a few hundred > hits from their awesome databases online, a few of > which might be relevant. If > they are, you can get to original sources later, > though it sounds as though > you have some already. > > Good luck, > > Bill Jones. > > PS. Brick walls are there to be climbed over! > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > /www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > Bill Thank you for your reply,I have used family search or the IGI as it is called on the fich over a period of 20yrs and also when first put onto the internet but so far I cannot link my families to the ones on family search on my Schulze line or my Nibbe line, maybe one day the mormans will be allowed access to the lutheran records and then I will be able to access them I have been advised through the list the Lutheran's will not allow the mormans access to their records.I have an address to write to in Altona for a record of my Frederick's birth so I will try that.once again thanks for the advice. Susan. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

    06/21/2004 05:46:42
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Family ties
    2. Rolf von Soosten
    3. Please contact me, ireon@online.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon R" <jafer@cox.net> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:20 AM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Family ties > Families of RIEBER, BAAS, MOOREGE, BORNHOLDT, FRUEDENBURG, SCHULTE, VOSS, HAASE, SCHULTE, SOOST, HAUSCHILD. Looking for any living families connected to these names. I have many names and places on these from older research. Mostly from the areas just north of Hamburg. > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm > >

    06/20/2004 12:36:32
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] (S-H) BRINKHOFF
    2. Sue Wilmes
    3. I'm a bit familiar with the town of Massow as my Gutknecht line is from there. It is a town in Poland today, formerly Pommerania. It is east of Stettin (Szczencio) and north of Stargard. > From: SLL260A@aol.com > Reply-To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:31:50 EDT > To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [S-H-RTS] (S-H) BRINKHOFF > Resent-From: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:31:54 -0600 > > I have reached the proverbial brick wall. Looking for any information on: > > Minnie BRINKHOFF (possibly Wilhelmine) born about 1859. She came to the US > between 1870 and 1880. She married John Michael DITTMEYER in Lincoln, Nebraska > in 1881 and they had a child born abt 1882 named Anton or Charles DITTMEYER > (He later took the names PIEPER). In 1884 she married Charles PIEPER (My > g-grandfather) in Lincoln and moved to Omaha. She died in a fire in their home > in > 1893 and there are no other records of her. Her burial records have no > information. One marriage certificate shows her parents listed as Henry > BRINKHOFF > and Charlotte SEIFERT. Her obituary said she had a sister in Lincoln, a Mrs. > Ehrlich. > > Charles PIEPER was from Massow, Prussia. Family stories indicated the > ancestors were from Schleswig-Holstein and I wonder if Minnie was the one > from the > area. Anyone have any clues? No clues on older census records (1885 Nebraska) > or church records found. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Susan Leighton > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > >

    06/19/2004 03:38:55
    1. Family ties
    2. gordon R
    3. Families of RIEBER, BAAS, MOOREGE, BORNHOLDT, FRUEDENBURG, SCHULTE, VOSS, HAASE, SCHULTE, SOOST, HAUSCHILD. Looking for any living families connected to these names. I have many names and places on these from older research. Mostly from the areas just north of Hamburg.

    06/18/2004 03:20:43
    1. Brinhoff, Dittmeyer, Pieper.
    2. Susan, I sense you may not have gone to the LDS online info. All three names are there in abundance, though that still may not mean the specific ones you are researching are there. Nevertheless, a visit there may help you over the brick wall. I sympathize because I'm stuck relative to ancestors in SH too. Go to htttp://www.familysearch.org. See the second column headed "Search for Ancestors", then click on the second bullet down "Search for your ancestors in our vast records collections." It's the site of the Church of the Latter Day Saints whose objective for decades has been to collect records worldwide that will eventually lead back to Adam and Eve. You could easily get a few hundred hits from their awesome databases online, a few of which might be relevant. If they are, you can get to original sources later, though it sounds as though you have some already. Good luck, Bill Jones. PS. Brick walls are there to be climbed over!

    06/18/2004 02:16:33
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] (S-H) BRINKHOFF
    2. D.S. Wulfman
    3. There are no locations in Germany with the spelling Brinkhoff but there are three with spelling Brinkhof. They are typical in being located either in Lower Saxony of North Rhine Westfalia. E 8 degrees, 1 minute 30 seconds N 52 15' 14" E 9 6' 15 " N 52 12' 8' E 8 19' 32" N 51 42' 15 SLL260A@aol.com wrote: >I have reached the proverbial brick wall. Looking for any information on: > >Minnie BRINKHOFF (possibly Wilhelmine) born about 1859. She came to the US >between 1870 and 1880. She married John Michael DITTMEYER in Lincoln, Nebraska >in 1881 and they had a child born abt 1882 named Anton or Charles DITTMEYER >(He later took the names PIEPER). In 1884 she married Charles PIEPER (My >g-grandfather) in Lincoln and moved to Omaha. She died in a fire in their home in >1893 and there are no other records of her. Her burial records have no >information. One marriage certificate shows her parents listed as Henry BRINKHOFF >and Charlotte SEIFERT. Her obituary said she had a sister in Lincoln, a Mrs. >Ehrlich. > >Charles PIEPER was from Massow, Prussia. Family stories indicated the >ancestors were from Schleswig-Holstein and I wonder if Minnie was the one from the >area. Anyone have any clues? No clues on older census records (1885 Nebraska) >or church records found. > >Any help greatly appreciated. > >Susan Leighton > > > >==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > >. > > >

    06/18/2004 12:31:56
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] (S-H) BRINKHOFF
    2. D.S. Wulfman
    3. The name Seifert is fairly common in the Lander of Saxony (from whence my father-in-law Herbert Seifert came) is believed by some to be associated with mining. Seifen means to wash and Seife means soap . One way to get some insight into where a family arose is to examine the phone listings for the name. You can do this on the net. The more unique the name the better but even with Seifert you may find a trend for a particualr locality in Germany. This is somewhat akin to using your fingers for walking the yellow pages. In a few cases the names of our ancestors were so unique that they left no one behind, e.g. Ankesheil) . Be assured this is not the case with Seifert. Another approach is to examine a good gazzeteer and look for place names which incorporate a surname. I do not recall any hits for Seifert using that method. The name Brink is very common in place names along a line running from Osnabruck to Hannover and unusual much removed. Brinkhoff fits the pattern and I seem to recall there is such a geographical designation although it has been 3-4 years since I did the distribution analysis. Happy hunting, Dave Wulfman SLL260A@aol.com wrote: >I have reached the proverbial brick wall. Looking for any information on: > >Minnie BRINKHOFF (possibly Wilhelmine) born about 1859. She came to the US >between 1870 and 1880. She married John Michael DITTMEYER in Lincoln, Nebraska >in 1881 and they had a child born abt 1882 named Anton or Charles DITTMEYER >(He later took the names PIEPER). In 1884 she married Charles PIEPER (My >g-grandfather) in Lincoln and moved to Omaha. She died in a fire in their home in >1893 and there are no other records of her. Her burial records have no >information. One marriage certificate shows her parents listed as Henry BRINKHOFF >and Charlotte SEIFERT. Her obituary said she had a sister in Lincoln, a Mrs. >Ehrlich. > >Charles PIEPER was from Massow, Prussia. Family stories indicated the >ancestors were from Schleswig-Holstein and I wonder if Minnie was the one from the >area. Anyone have any clues? No clues on older census records (1885 Nebraska) >or church records found. > >Any help greatly appreciated. > >Susan Leighton > > > >==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > >. > > >

    06/18/2004 12:05:17
    1. (S-H) BRINKHOFF
    2. I have reached the proverbial brick wall. Looking for any information on: Minnie BRINKHOFF (possibly Wilhelmine) born about 1859. She came to the US between 1870 and 1880. She married John Michael DITTMEYER in Lincoln, Nebraska in 1881 and they had a child born abt 1882 named Anton or Charles DITTMEYER (He later took the names PIEPER). In 1884 she married Charles PIEPER (My g-grandfather) in Lincoln and moved to Omaha. She died in a fire in their home in 1893 and there are no other records of her. Her burial records have no information. One marriage certificate shows her parents listed as Henry BRINKHOFF and Charlotte SEIFERT. Her obituary said she had a sister in Lincoln, a Mrs. Ehrlich. Charles PIEPER was from Massow, Prussia. Family stories indicated the ancestors were from Schleswig-Holstein and I wonder if Minnie was the one from the area. Anyone have any clues? No clues on older census records (1885 Nebraska) or church records found. Any help greatly appreciated. Susan Leighton

    06/18/2004 10:31:50
    1. von SPREKELSEN
    2. Ron Schmid
    3. Greetings: I am searching for any information on my ggrandfather, Hermann von SPREKELSEN or von SPRECKELSEN from Hamburg. Unknown date of birth. Occupation: mariner. Appointed to H.J. Perlbach &Co. shipping lines in Hamburg, 1887. Appointed Master of ship "Minerva" in 1897. Was Married to TROST, unknown 1st name. Had at least one child in 1874. Emilie my grandmother. Emilie immigrated to America 1894. Ellis Island record date August 13, 1894. Ship "Rugia" Estimated departure date in Hamgurg, July 29, 1894. Have checked LDS records with no results. Cursory search of Hamburg Emigration Records also produced no results. Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thanking you in advance Ron Schmid

    06/17/2004 01:01:17
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Basic info for Holstein
    2. Abbotts East
    3. Hi! I have a little more info now on my Heesch line. They said on the manifest for the ship coming over that they were from Friedrichskoog in Suder Dithmarschen. Steffen Heesch married Anna Marten July 1843 in Ecklak, Suder Dithmarschen, Holstein, Germany. I think he was from Burg and she was from Wilster. Their daughter Maria said she was born in "Friedens the Seventh" on October 10, 1844. Is that a city? My great grandpa Claus was born February 26, 1848, Catharina around 1851 and then a brother was mentioned once - Peter - to be born around 1844 not sure if it was earlier or later. This family has been so difficult to trace! Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated though. Carol jdbentz wrote: > There are both Heesch and Heeschen near Kellinghusen and Sarlhusen, >Holstein. I have information on about six of them.....they are related to >my third great grandfather who was a Wagner. LDS has census records of the >area. If you'll give me more specific names and dates I'll be happy to >check my own records further on both names. \ John >jdbentz@prodigy.net > > > >==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: >http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm > > > >

    06/17/2004 12:54:34
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Dora Bahr 1873
    2. Go to http://familysearch.org, then to the second column headed Search for Ancestors, and click on the second bullet "Search for your ancestors in our vast records collections." It's the site of the Chiurch of the Latter Day Saints who are embarked on a worldwide effort to collect all records leading back to Adam and Eve. Best, Bill Jones,

    06/15/2004 03:01:04
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Part 2 - Early Immigration from the Probstei
    2. Fred & Judy Brauns
    3. I am having a terrible time finding my father-in-law's ancestors supposedly from Schleswig-Holstein. My father-in-law was Franz Brauns, born in Schonberg-on-Strand in January of 1898. His father was Peter August Andreas Brauns, born July 27, 1875, supposedly Schleswig-Holstein. Peter's father was Julius Ernst Andreas Brauns, unknown birthdate, but he married a Louise Schneekloth on November 7, 1874 in Schleswig Holstein. Louise Schneekloth was from Schleswig-Holstein also. How do I go about finding where Peter and Julius were from and who Julius's parents were? Thanks for any help. Judy in North Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: Klaus Struve <struvekla@compuserve.de> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 13, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Part 2 - Early Immigration from the Probstei > Dear members of this list, > here comes the second half of my posting. > > I transcribed and summarized an article from a newspaper of the year 1846. It is not an exact > translation, but it will give you at least 90 % of all information that it holds. > I pasted the complete article into my website > www.rootdigger.de , > you will find it when you click the button "People" and then scroll down a bit. > Most of the persons mentioned below are featured in more detail in my database "Emigrants", > also accessible at : > www.rootdigger.de > > I wish everyone a restful Sunday, with greetings from the "Old Country", > > Klaus Struve, Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein > (genealogical researcher) > > > > Preetzer Wochenblatt Nr. 24, Sonnabend, den 13. Juni 1846 > (Preetzer Weekly Magazine, number 24, of Saturday, 13th June, 1846) > > [summarized by Klaus Struve, www.rootdigger.de] > > page 281 : Of the Probstei, belonging to the monastery in Preetz : > > The Emigration to America > > Apart from these 15 of the parish Schoenberg, there were 7 more from the parish Probsteierhagen : > 16-18) Hinrich Wiese, tailor from Lutterbek, with his wife and a child > 19-21) Asmus Viet, shoemaker from Prasdorf, a brother of the above-mentioned, with his wife and a daughter, 10 years old > 22) his (Asmus') brother-in-law Claus Arp from Laboe. > All of these are heading for Iowa, where they hope to buy land, or, the craftsmen amongst them, expect to find a good income, without buying land. They left the 16th May from Hamburg, arrived safely in Hull, and on the 23rd, set off for Quebec. From there, they will travel on the St. Lorenz River, the Great Lakes, and finally the Mississippi River, that will lead them to their countrymen in Iowa. > > Our best wishes are sent to accompany those who are leaving, and we extend them to those who have already arrived in America. May none of them nourish sanguine hopes, and may none of them build castles in the air ! May they take along with them into the New World the diligence they know, and the good habits and moral values of their native land. May they not forget the saying that is valid in Holstein as well as in America : > "In the sweat of your brow, you shall eat your bread." > And may forthcoming generations give testimony of this. > > Postscript : > > With the last group of Probsteiers traveled, from outside the Probstei : > 1-6) the farm-tenant Schroeder from Matzwitz, with his wife and four children > 7-10) his brother-in-law, Scheel, fisherman from Todendorf, with his wife and two children > 11, 12) his [whose ? Schroeder ? Scheel ?] aged parents-in-law. > These people took along with them a considerable sum of money that will enable them to purchase a good deal of land. > > So it is a total of 49 persons so far who have left the north-east of Schleswig-Holstein for the transatlantic mainland - a remarkable process in the life of our people, whose hearts and minds are touched and excited, and, should the news from abroad continue to be favorable, will entail a much bigger one of its' kind. > > > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

    06/15/2004 03:00:24
    1. Dora Bahr 1873
    2. Dear Listers: I am helping my son-in-law, Hans Brinker, with his German family tree and have traced his 2nd ggmother to your area. We are trying to find anything on the following person: Dora Bahr born 18 Sep 1873 father=Nicholas Bahr mother = Gertrude or Katrina Maas Dora married Hans Christian Hansen in Iowa, USA in 1897 and died over here in 1950. Thank you all for anything you can help me with in finding more about these people. Sincerely, Janice Connell--El Paso, TX Hans Brinker--Phoenix,AZ

    06/14/2004 05:08:28
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] Dora Bahr 1873
    2. larry hodne
    3. What part of Iowa???? ----- Original Message ----- From: <JANICEC6@aol.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Dora Bahr 1873 > Dear Listers: > > I am helping my son-in-law, Hans Brinker, with his German family tree and > have traced his 2nd ggmother to your area. We are trying to find anything on > the following person: > > Dora Bahr born 18 Sep 1873 father=Nicholas Bahr > mother = Gertrude or Katrina > Maas > > Dora married Hans Christian Hansen in Iowa, USA in 1897 and died over here > in 1950. > > Thank you all for anything you can help me with in finding more about these > people. > > Sincerely, > Janice Connell--El Paso, TX > Hans Brinker--Phoenix,AZ > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm >

    06/14/2004 04:41:13
    1. Re: [S-H-RTS] "Altona &Hannover"
    2. Carol & Gil Haycock
    3. Pam. did you ever get a reply to this email. I would be most interested if you did. Many thanks, Carol Haycock in Denver, Colorado > [Original Message] > From: Pam G <pgosl@ev1.net> > To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/19/04 11:42:33 PM > Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] "Altona &Hannover" > > Hello all, > > I have a slightly different question related to this thread, regarding immigrants from the > Altona/Hamburg area, during the time period of Danish rule, did they consider themselves to be > Danish or German, or did it depend on their age, ethnic background, etc. . ?? > > Another question, there seemed to be a fairly high percentage of those from Hannover moving over to > the Altona/Hamburg area in the early 1800's. . .was this more of an ethnic group move or was there > some other political or geographic impetus to cause this?? > > Thanks for any info! Sincerely, Pam G. in CA > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm

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