It took two weeks to travel from Hamburg to New York with a stop in Le Havre. In a message dated 7/6/2004 11:58:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mike Bartlett" <barbbartlett@comcast.net> writes: >I have a Hungarian kin that travelled from Hamburg in the winter of 1853/54. >He boarded another ship in Liverpool that departed January 15th 1854.  I >could not find his tracks in the Hamburg Passenger Lists.  Would Hungarians >have been tabulated?  How long does it take to get from Hamburg to >Liverpool?  I would think a week or two tops.  I am still trying to riddle >this one out. > >Mike in WA > > >==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: >http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > >

I have some Mohn's in my family back to the 1600s but they are from Switzerland. Do you go back that far? Valerie sdmperlists@broadrunit.com wrote: I haven't posted for awhile. I'm still trying to find where my great grandfather, Henry (Heinrich) Lotz came from in Holstein. I have some circumstantial evidence that indicates he had two brothers or otherwise close relations in California at the same time. I have not found parents or origin for any of the three as yet other than Holstein. I am close to exhausting the possible sources. I haven't gotten Jacob's death certificate as yet and there is an obit for Henry I need to send for. I had hoped to get copies of Frank and Jacob's declarations of intent to become a citizen, but these were filed in the state court in San Francisco. All of these records were lost in the 1906 earthquake and fire. You will notice that I have found Frank and Henry in the ship passenger arrival lists at the National Archives. Maybe there are departure records in some European Archive? I do have my great grandmother's origin which is Seestermuehe, Holstein, Germany. This is a small place near Elmshorn. Are there parish records or census lists for this place? Where would these be found? Everyone left for America before 1870 so I'm not interested in records after that date. My great grandmother's name could be Laura Augusta Mohn. Most records name her Geesche Mohn. In the 1880 census she is Augusta and in the 1900 census she is Laura. Details on this web page: http://sdmbizlists.home.infionline.net/LotzGene.html Descendants of Frank Lotz 1 Frank Lotz b: Jan 1843 Holstein, Germany d: 6 Jun 1921 Santa Clara Co Alms House, Santa Clara Co, CA Immigration: 20 Sep 1865 Age 19, Occ Laborer, Embark: Marseilles; Debark: New York; Ship: Germania, H. Ehlers master Naturalization: 30 Apr 1873 Lotz, Franz; Vol. 13, P-4468; US DC SF .. +Catherine Diestel b: Mar 1853 Holstein, Germany m: 12 Sep 1874 in San Francisco, CA d: 31 Mar 1920 San Jose, Santa Clara Co, CA Immigration: 28 Aug 1867 Age 22; Embark: Bremen, Debark: New York; Ship: Laura .... 2 Martha Lotz b: Abt. 1875 California d: 30 May 1910 Alameda Co, CA ........ +Adolph Lorsbach b: Bet. 1879 - 1881 m: 25 Mar 1893 in San Francisco, CA d: Bet. 9 Apr 1926 - 9 Apr 1928 Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Son Lorsbach b: 20 Jul 1895 Fruitvale, Oakland, Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Daughter Lorsbach b: 15 Jan 1897 Fruitvale, Oakland, Alameda Co, CA .... 2 Frank John Lotz b: 27 Dec 1876 California d: 10 Mar 1944 San Francisco, CA ........ +Susan S Flinn b: 22 Aug 1874 Pennsylvania m: Abt. 1903 d: 2 Jun 1962 San Francisco, CA Father: Edmond Flinn Mother: Catherine Turner .......... 3 Helene C Lotz b: Abt. 1904 California .............. +Elwood Ericksen b: 8 Oct 1897 California m: Abt. 1927 d: 13 Dec 1966 San Francisco, CA .......... 3 Frank John Lotz b: 10 Oct 1906 San Francisco, CA d: 4 Nov 1956 Los Angeles, CA Descendants of Jacob Lotz 1 Jacob Lotz b: Jan 1841 Holstein, Germany d: 11 Mar 1905 Alameda Co, CA Immigration: 1863 Naturalization: 30 Apr 1873 Vol. 13, P-4469; US District Court San Francisco; Witnesses: John H. Bester and Franz Lotz .. +Annie Kolin b: Sep 1842 Holstein, Germany m: 7 Mar 1869 in San Francisco, CA d: 10 Mar 1877 San Francisco, CA .... 2 Annie H Lotz b: 28 Feb 1869 d: 11 Aug 1950 Alameda Co, CA ........ +Hiram P Preston b: Mar 1863 Canada m: Abt. 1888 d: 17 Mar 1907 Alameda Co, CA .......... 3 Dean Bradley Preston b: 10 Jan 1890 California d: 1 Jun 1947 Alameda Co, CA .............. +Norma C b: Abt. 1900 New York m: Bet. 1910 - 1920 Descendants of Henry Lotz 1 Henry Lotz b: 15 Jan 1845 Holstein, Germany d: 23 Sep 1899 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Immigration: 2 Oct 1865 Age 17, Occ Farmer; Embark: Marseilles; Debark: New York; Ship: Allemannia, N. Trautmann master .. +Geesche Mohn b: 14 Jul 1845 Seestermuehe, Holstein, Germany m: Abt. 1871 in San Francisco, CA d: 28 Jul 1921 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Father: Andreas Mohn Mother: Margaret ? Immigration: 6 Jun 1870 Age 19; Embark: Bremen, Debark: New York; Ship: Weser .... 2 Laura Lotz b: 6 Aug 1876 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA d: 12 May 1943 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Roselawn Cem, Livermore, CA .... 2 Lena Lucille Lotz b: 25 Jan 1878 Livermore, Alameda Co, CA d: 6 May 1944 Oakland, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA ........ +John Daniel McLeod b: 22 Apr 1873 Pictou Co, NS d: 10 Mar 1959 Veterans Hosp, Livermore, Alameda Co, CA Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA Father: Charles Harrington MacLeod Mother: Hannah McLeod .......... 3 George Robert McLeod b: 12 May 1908 Oakland, Alameda Co, CA d: 20 Mar 1991 Silver Spring, Montgomery Co, MD Burial: Mountain View Cem, Oakland, CA Steve McLeod Broad Run, Virginia http://smcleod.home.infionline.net/ genealogy@broadrunit.com ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm

I have a Hungarian kin that travelled from Hamburg in the winter of 1853/54. He boarded another ship in Liverpool that departed January 15th 1854. I could not find his tracks in the Hamburg Passenger Lists. Would Hungarians have been tabulated? How long does it take to get from Hamburg to Liverpool? I would think a week or two tops. I am still trying to riddle this one out. Mike in WA

Thanks for your surgestion! I might as well be right. I know it´s written "Naurnburg" in the 1900-census of Oslo (Kristiania), and that´s the only clue on her place of birth that I have. You can see the family here: http://www.rhd.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=bosted&ftaar=1900&spraak=no rsk&kommnr=0301&kretsnr=151&bostnr=0046&leilnr=02. What Germany-list would Sachsen-Anhalt be? Cathrine :-)

Hi Dena, As far as I am aware, Humber is as English as the Humber river that goes back into antiquity. However, it pronounces equally well in German, so it could have a German equivalent. If you have not checked www.humber-genealogy.com, there's a host of info there. Good hunting. BIll Jones.

There is www.Saxony roots.com, though I don't know how good it is. Best, Bill Jones.

I´m a norwegian lady and new to this list, and I hope anyone will be so kind to help me find information about my great-grandmother, Auguste Amalie Ludwig (Ludrvig), born April 17, 1849. Possibel place of birth is Naurnburg (Nürnberg?) - Bavaria. She married Nils Fredrik Just b. 1859, Christiansand, Norway. They got two sons: Sigurd Harald Just b. 1891 and Sverre Brynjulf Just b. 1892 - both born when the family was in Lübeck. I believe the parents got married in Germany, possibly in Lübeck, as well. N.F. Just was a trader and was doing business in Germany. They went to Oslo, Norway, some time before 1900. Auguste Amalie Just, born Ludwig, died in Oslo 1937. I´m the granddaugther of Sverre Brynjulf Just. I have his baptismal certificate that says that he was christened in the evang.-lutherischen St. Marien Kirche in Lübeck on October 12, 1893. The wintesess was: Johan Franz Just, Clara Hempel, Juline Just and Axel Fhörnlöf. Does enyone know who Clara Hempel and Axel Fhörnlöf are as well? I do hope that anyone have knowledge about Auguste Amalie Ludwig and her family! Thanks! Kindly regards Cathrine Just, Oslo

Hi, I am new to this list. I believe I have just found the birth place or the place that my ancestor once lived. His name is Conrad Humber born 1829 in Boren, Germany. I do not know when he immigrated to America or if he was with other members of his family when he immigrated. He was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1862, that is where his son John was born and in Bloomer, Wisconsin in 1880 (possibly before 1880). He married Cunigunda Hetzler date and place unknown. She came from Hemhophen which is a completely different district than Boren, so I think they married after they were both in the U.S. Can somebody please tell me about this area and if there are anymore Humber families there? Humber could have a different spelling. Thank you for your time, Dena P.S. I always thought Humber was an english name. Conrad Humber was Catholic

Could it be Naumburg, southwest of Halle, in Sachsen-Anhalt? It hs an interesting cathedral and some old churches. But definitely not in Bavaria. Good hunting, Bill Jones.

Oops...I goofed....I meant to send this to Klaus personally. I haven't been with this group very long and I noticed it just as soon as I hit the send button. Sorry. Sharon

Hi Klaus, Thanks for the information. It is helpful, since I couldn't find it on the map either. I thought maybe i.d.Lund meant "in the south" or south of Schobuell....like perhaps an unincorporated area that just took the name of a local farm???? The Norwegians were great on this procedure! So why do they put i.d. in front the the name, Lund? Some year we hope to get to Germany and visit these areas of our ancestors. My sister and I have been working on the Norwegian side the past few years and we took a trip to Norway in 2001 after we had completed our research. We started on the German side about two years ago, but last year everything was put on hold when my son was dignosed with cancer and died 6 months later. So now I am getting back to research again. But we have a lot to research before we take the trip. We are pushing for 2006!!!! Thanks again. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Klaus Struve [mailto:struvekla@compuserve.de] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:10 AM To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Scholbull Parish Hi Sharon, Lund is listed as a village, being part of larger Schobuell, in 1890. In 1962, mail to Lund had to go via Hockensbuell. I guess Lund is the name of a handful of buildings between Schobuell and Hockensbuell. Nowadays probably no more than the name of a street. The people of Lund worshipped in Schobuell. They were supposed to, anyway. A map scale 1 : 150,000 does not show Lund. It must be tiny. Greetings from the "Old Country", Klaus (Struve) in Kiel, SH www.rootdigger.de sharon olson schrieb: > I have family: Petersen, Volquarts, Steffensen, Frerot in the Scholbull, > Holebull and Hockbull areas in the Schobull Parish. In the church records > of this parish, there are some records that are not noted as taking place at > Schobull, Holebull or Hockbull, but i.d. Lund or sometimes i.d.Lundt. Can > anyone tell me what this i.d. Lund(t) stands for? Thanks. > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm

Hi Sharon, Lund is listed as a village, being part of larger Schobuell, in 1890. In 1962, mail to Lund had to go via Hockensbuell. I guess Lund is the name of a handful of buildings between Schobuell and Hockensbuell. Nowadays probably no more than the name of a street. The people of Lund worshipped in Schobuell. They were supposed to, anyway. A map scale 1 : 150,000 does not show Lund. It must be tiny. Greetings from the "Old Country", Klaus (Struve) in Kiel, SH www.rootdigger.de sharon olson schrieb: > I have family: Petersen, Volquarts, Steffensen, Frerot in the Scholbull, > Holebull and Hockbull areas in the Schobull Parish. In the church records > of this parish, there are some records that are not noted as taking place at > Schobull, Holebull or Hockbull, but i.d. Lund or sometimes i.d.Lundt. Can > anyone tell me what this i.d. Lund(t) stands for? Thanks. > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm

Please check out the Bremer County, Iowa genweb site - two members of the local genealogical society recently made available obits from the German Phoenix newspaper. More information on the web site. Karlyn Lyn_ Batdorf wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how accessible obituaries are. I'm hoping to find obituaries that were posted to German newspapers for Germans living in Iowa. I have three sets of immigrant great grandparents born in Germany that I would like to find more info on. I believe I know the general area they came from. Any info, resources or researchers names that can help me is much appreciated. > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm

Can anyone tell me how accessible obituaries are. I'm hoping to find obituaries that were posted to German newspapers for Germans living in Iowa. I have three sets of immigrant great grandparents born in Germany that I would like to find more info on. I believe I know the general area they came from. Any info, resources or researchers names that can help me is much appreciated.

I have family: Petersen, Volquarts, Steffensen, Frerot in the Scholbull, Holebull and Hockbull areas in the Schobull Parish. In the church records of this parish, there are some records that are not noted as taking place at Schobull, Holebull or Hockbull, but i.d. Lund or sometimes i.d.Lundt. Can anyone tell me what this i.d. Lund(t) stands for? Thanks.

Hello Dagamr, My family lines come from the village of Hornerkirchen and Bokel and Appen areas. These names are in the early 1700's. Regards, Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dagmar Swihart" <icsboss@msn.com> To: <SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] Family ties > Hello Gordon, > > I have Bornholdt and Voss families. Please be more specific on the family you are looking for. > > My Bornholdt family is from the Steenfeld, Kreis Rendsburg and Oersdorf, Kreis Rendsburg area. > My Voss family is from the Steenfeld and Bendorf, Kr. Rendsburg. Please let me know if you have any connection to that region and those families. > > Greetings from sunny California > Dagmar Swihart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gordon R<mailto:jafer@cox.net> > To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@ro otsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:20 PM > Subject: [S-H-RTS] Family ties > > > Families of RIEBER, BAAS, MOOREGE, BORNHOLDT, FRUEDENBURG, SCHULTE, VOSS, HAASE, SCHULTE, SOOST, HAUSCHILD. Looking for any living families connected to these names. I have many names and places on these from older research. Mostly from the areas just north of Hamburg. > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm<http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm> > > > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm >

Good evening to all... I recently discovered an ancestor who's origins were Schleswig-Holstein region. In her son's baptism record, Margaretha Loose is listed as having a birthdate of 26 May 1805 in Wewelsfleth. That is all I know of this ancestor. Is there some kind soul with access to records of this town/village/city who might be able to locate her birth record? In her death, she is listed with a religion of: Lutheran. I don't know how far a distance this locale is from the Hamburg area... She lived her final years as first: with Ockershausen, Johann Peter Martin in Hamburg and second: the Hamburg Poorhouse Thank you in advance for any suggestion and/or information! Jeannette Harper Orangevale CA Researching: Brand, Dittmer, Franke, Franzen, Hopp, Mai, Neander, Pimsner and so much more http://www.budlink.us/

Hello Gordon, I have Bornholdt and Voss families. Please be more specific on the family you are looking for. My Bornholdt family is from the Steenfeld, Kreis Rendsburg and Oersdorf, Kreis Rendsburg area. My Voss family is from the Steenfeld and Bendorf, Kr. Rendsburg. Please let me know if you have any connection to that region and those families. Greetings from sunny California Dagmar Swihart ----- Original Message ----- From: gordon R<mailto:jafer@cox.net> To: SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: [S-H-RTS] Family ties Families of RIEBER, BAAS, MOOREGE, BORNHOLDT, FRUEDENBURG, SCHULTE, VOSS, HAASE, SCHULTE, SOOST, HAUSCHILD. Looking for any living families connected to these names. I have many names and places on these from older research. Mostly from the areas just north of Hamburg. ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Eine Erklaerung von Fachbegriffen und die Regeln der SH-ROOTS finden Sie hier: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm<http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/regeln.htm>

Hello to all - I am researching the name LENKERSDORF, as my mother-in-law is the daughter of ARNOLD LENKERSDORF, born January 21, 1903. He was born around the Kiel area. He immigrated to America in the mid-1900's. He had a sister, Margaret and a brother, Carl Rudolph. I am now in the throes of completing an Ancestry Chart and I seeking assistance. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Deb Strezenec

With Ankesheil we ended up finding the spelling Hankshile in the 1850 Census. Fortunately a friend added the H in her search or we never would have fnd it. With Wulf we almost missed it when someone added a t to obtain Wulft which was way down the passenger list records. It was purely accidental that I hit on it. You should see what they do with the family Wleike when trying to read the old German handwriting. Remeber the American making a census entry of recording apassenger list puts down what he or she thinks they heard. If you ask a bunch of Germans having the surname Ankesheil who they are they would respond that we are the Ankesheiln. That is why we have 8 families in the New Orleans area with the plural formfor their last name. When writing home some Wolf familes added the plural form for the family and then were refered to as Wulves by translators. :-) Lots of luck.. Eugene M. Wengert wrote: > >> Len, > > > I checked Germans to America and there is none with the name > Auchenberg or even close to that--any other ideas on spelling? > > > Eugene Wengert > Emeritus Professor, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison > President, The Wood Doctor's Rx, LLC > 2872 Charleston Drive > Madison, WI 53711-6503 > 608-271-4441 > Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@UWAlumni.com > www.WoodWeb.com > > ==== SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Technical Terms and Rules of the S-H-ROOTS: > http://www.genealogy-sh.com/faq-sh-roots/index.htm > > > . >