Hi Glenda, We do have the name of Gotlieb in our family. I dug out a little info. Johann B. Scheer (John) born in 1812, His wife Maria (Mary) and beside the name I have written Catharine with a ?. She was born 1813. They had 7 children. Heinrich Born 1842, Elise born 1845, Wilhelm born 8/11/1850 - I have a note to get his Birth Certificate - He was also the twin to my great grandmother - Christina Marie born 8/11/1850, died 6/25/1917, buried in Big Springs, Mo at St. James Cemetery. She married A. Friederick H. Hillebrand. Then there was Garrett born 1853, Louise born 1854 and Lewis born 1856. This was found in Warren Co. census. This is our great grandmother Hillebrand's family. We have Bahr's , Hildebrand and Beckmann names in our family. If any of this helps let me know. Thanks Judy A _JASell2@aol.com_ (mailto:JASell2@aol.com) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)