In a message dated 7/19/00 11:46:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JFHawthorn@aol.com writes: << These families all lived in the Ware Shoals (Donalds) area and attended the Greenville Presbyterian Church. (Many are buried there) >> Do you know if Greenville Presbyterian Church and Old Greenville Presbyterian Church are the same church? I have been looking for one of my gg-grandmothers who is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church. The name that I have is Elizabeth James Dunn Swancey. I am not absolutely certain that she was a Dunn who married a Swancey or the other way around. Her second husband was Preston James Butler. Elizabeth is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian. Preston James Butler is buried with his first wife at Good Hope Baptist in Saluda Co. Any help would be appreciated. Suzanne Collins Matson

Suzanne, You and I have corresponded before regarding our Holtzclaws. I saved your email from late July since I saw the name Dunn which is another of my lines. The Dunns are from a paternal line whereas the Holtzclaws are a maternal line. I'm behind in my emails, but today I finally had a chance to research Elizabeth James Dunn Swancey. I don't know if you have received any answers to your email before this, but I wanted to let you know that I have an Elizabeth Dunn married to a John Swaney. I'm fairly sure this must be your Elizabeth although I do not have a birth or death date and no other marital info. Elizabeth's parents were: James Dunn b. Sept. 8, 1809 d. Sept. 8, 1835 He is listed as living in the Abbeville Dist. and buried in the Greenville Presbyterian Cemetery. Many of my Dunns are buried there, and since many of them were very early residents of the area and buried there I think the "Old" Greenville and the Greenville Presbyterian Cemetery are one in the same. James wife was Nancy Caroline Calvert b. 1813 -- no death date. Their children were: Ally Ann b. 1831 Jane Elizabeth Margaret James' father wasWilliam Dunn, Sr. b. 1777 d. April 03, 1856 m. Aisly or Ally Richey b. 1778. William's father was James Dunn b. 1734 Ireland d. Jan. 11, 1805 Abbeville Dist., buried in the Greenville Presb. Cemetery. James had a very early land grant in the area. I hope this information will be of help. Sharon Lloyd SCMATSON@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/00 11:46:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > JFHawthorn@aol.com writes: > > << These families all lived in the Ware Shoals (Donalds) area and attended > the > Greenville Presbyterian Church. (Many are buried there) >> > > Do you know if Greenville Presbyterian Church and Old Greenville Presbyterian > Church are the same church? > > I have been looking for one of my gg-grandmothers who is supposed to be > buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church. The name that I have is Elizabeth > James Dunn Swancey. I am not absolutely certain that she was a Dunn who > married a Swancey or the other way around. Her second husband was Preston > James Butler. Elizabeth is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian. > Preston James Butler is buried with his first wife at Good Hope Baptist in > Saluda Co. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Suzanne Collins Matson > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM

Sharon, Hello, I am Sheryl Rowell Townsend. I too have a Holtzclaw line. I descend from William G. Kirk and Rhody Catherine Holtzclaw. My William and Rhody were married in Tallapossa Co. AL I believe that Rhody Catherine Holtzclaw was born in Alabama. William was born in Tennessee. His son Joseph Green Kirk was my great-grandfather and was born in Alabama in 1848. In search of my Holtzclaw line. Would like to hear from you, sheryl -----Original Message----- From: R & S L [mailto:dar@pe.net] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 2:25 PM To: SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGREENW] Elizabeth Dunn Suzanne, You and I have corresponded before regarding our Holtzclaws. I saved your email from late July since I saw the name Dunn which is another of my lines. The Dunns are from a paternal line whereas the Holtzclaws are a maternal line.