Thanks Susan for the heads up on that. The further you go back, things change. Thanks again Melanie M

Thanks so much Judy....I have been having trouble with that era cause my Grandfather is African-American, but I don't know about his father. Thanks again Melanie M

I'm sorry I forgot to say this was the census from Edgefield only in 1790. Of course there could be more just trying to be helpful. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCMATSON@aol.com> To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCGREENW] Hillery/Hill Williams > In a message dated 8/20/00 7:55:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > we2camps@bellsouth.net writes: > > << Greenwood was part of Old 96 District in 1790 and I found Some Williams > there. Some of these Williams lived in Campbellton. Leed, Roger, William, > John, Duke, Thomas, and Paul. There was a John (Mollatto) also. I hope this > may even help you get even farther back. One of these men could be Martin > T.'s father. >> > > Also, it might be useful to check Abbeville County. Most of Greenwood County > was formed from Abbeville County in 1897. > > Suzanne Collins Matson > > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > >

In a message dated 8/20/00 7:55:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, we2camps@bellsouth.net writes: << Greenwood was part of Old 96 District in 1790 and I found Some Williams there. Some of these Williams lived in Campbellton. Leed, Roger, William, John, Duke, Thomas, and Paul. There was a John (Mollatto) also. I hope this may even help you get even farther back. One of these men could be Martin T.'s father. >> Also, it might be useful to check Abbeville County. Most of Greenwood County was formed from Abbeville County in 1897. Suzanne Collins Matson

M.M., Greenwood was part of Old 96 District in 1790 and I found Some Williams there. Some of these Williams lived in Campbellton. Leed, Roger, William, John, Duke, Thomas, and Paul. There was a John (Mollatto) also. I hope this may even help you get even farther back. One of these men could be Martin T.'s father. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Roots4real@aol.com> To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: [SCGREENW] Hillery/Hill Williams > I am looking for information on my Great-Grandfather Hillery/Hill Williams. > My Grandfather Martin T. Williams was in Greenwood South Carolina until he > was about 20-25 years old where he moved to Philadelphia, PA. I am guessing > that my Great-Grandfather was born around 1840. Any help that can be given > would be greatly appreciated. > > M. M. Williams > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

I am looking for information on my Great-Grandfather Hillery/Hill Williams. My Grandfather Martin T. Williams was in Greenwood South Carolina until he was about 20-25 years old where he moved to Philadelphia, PA. I am guessing that my Great-Grandfather was born around 1840. Any help that can be given would be greatly appreciated. M. M. Williams

Hi Sharon, I pulled out my notes on Elizabeth. The information came from a Butler cousin. I am trying to verify if she was in fact buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church in Shoals Junction, thus far no success. The cousin has her listed as Elizabeth James Dunn Swancey which was confusing to me. Your note helps me out. Apparently the info was meant to show Elizabeth as daughter of James Dunn who married a Swancey/Swaney. I have her dates (unconfirmed) as born 5 Dec 1835 died 21 Dec 1912 and also that she is buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church. I have not confirmed this yet. I have her listed as the second wife of Preston/Pressley James Butler born 18 Jul 1829 died 11 Mar 1902. He is buried at Good Hope Baptist Church in Saluda Co. with his first wife Georgianna Attaway (1833-1862). Between the two wives, it seems he had 15 known children. Suzanne

Sharon, Hello, I am Sheryl Rowell Townsend. I too have a Holtzclaw line. I descend from William G. Kirk and Rhody Catherine Holtzclaw. My William and Rhody were married in Tallapossa Co. AL I believe that Rhody Catherine Holtzclaw was born in Alabama. William was born in Tennessee. His son Joseph Green Kirk was my great-grandfather and was born in Alabama in 1848. In search of my Holtzclaw line. Would like to hear from you, sheryl -----Original Message----- From: R & S L [mailto:dar@pe.net] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 2:25 PM To: SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGREENW] Elizabeth Dunn Suzanne, You and I have corresponded before regarding our Holtzclaws. I saved your email from late July since I saw the name Dunn which is another of my lines. The Dunns are from a paternal line whereas the Holtzclaws are a maternal line.

Suzanne, You and I have corresponded before regarding our Holtzclaws. I saved your email from late July since I saw the name Dunn which is another of my lines. The Dunns are from a paternal line whereas the Holtzclaws are a maternal line. I'm behind in my emails, but today I finally had a chance to research Elizabeth James Dunn Swancey. I don't know if you have received any answers to your email before this, but I wanted to let you know that I have an Elizabeth Dunn married to a John Swaney. I'm fairly sure this must be your Elizabeth although I do not have a birth or death date and no other marital info. Elizabeth's parents were: James Dunn b. Sept. 8, 1809 d. Sept. 8, 1835 He is listed as living in the Abbeville Dist. and buried in the Greenville Presbyterian Cemetery. Many of my Dunns are buried there, and since many of them were very early residents of the area and buried there I think the "Old" Greenville and the Greenville Presbyterian Cemetery are one in the same. James wife was Nancy Caroline Calvert b. 1813 -- no death date. Their children were: Ally Ann b. 1831 Jane Elizabeth Margaret James' father wasWilliam Dunn, Sr. b. 1777 d. April 03, 1856 m. Aisly or Ally Richey b. 1778. William's father was James Dunn b. 1734 Ireland d. Jan. 11, 1805 Abbeville Dist., buried in the Greenville Presb. Cemetery. James had a very early land grant in the area. I hope this information will be of help. Sharon Lloyd SCMATSON@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/00 11:46:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > JFHawthorn@aol.com writes: > > << These families all lived in the Ware Shoals (Donalds) area and attended > the > Greenville Presbyterian Church. (Many are buried there) >> > > Do you know if Greenville Presbyterian Church and Old Greenville Presbyterian > Church are the same church? > > I have been looking for one of my gg-grandmothers who is supposed to be > buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church. The name that I have is Elizabeth > James Dunn Swancey. I am not absolutely certain that she was a Dunn who > married a Swancey or the other way around. Her second husband was Preston > James Butler. Elizabeth is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian. > Preston James Butler is buried with his first wife at Good Hope Baptist in > Saluda Co. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Suzanne Collins Matson > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM

Charlie: Was the cousin you referred to, the son of Thomas Henderson Stuart (as a small boy I remember him as "T.H." and he drove a the Coronaca school bus), Charles Stuart. If so tell him Buck Free said hello. Buck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Compton <ccompton@coosavalley.net> To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:55 PM Subject: RE: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > Hi Guys: > Buck is right in what he says. I have some details about this cemetery and > church that is really not associated. (but kind of is). > My grandfathers sister, Gertrude Estelle Compton, married Thomas Henderson > Stuart, all, in and of Greenwood. I just got off the telephone with the son > of Thomas Henderson Stuart who repeated the following history as he gave to > me last summer. A short pencil is much better than a long memory ....... > remember that ! Here's what he said to me...again: > > ############## > My grandfather, (Thomas Henderson Stuart's father), gave the land away for > this cemetery to "the community" about 1850. It now belongs to an > association which "keeps it up". The Bethlehem Cemetery was already there > and in place when the Methodist Church built in what is now the cemetery > grounds. (This specifically would be inside the front and slightly to the > left of the entrance). The church really didn't have any association with > the cemetery. In fact, they had a school there at one time. That Church, > the Coronaca Methodist Church, has since moved to Coronaca. The school was > actually before my time. The reason why I know this church was moved is > because my uncle and his wife were married in the Baptist Church because > they were moving the Methodist Church at the time and that was around 1902. > Later, we sold, which really amounted to "giving", about four additional > acres of our place to add to the space of the cemetery to make it bigger. > > > I asked about any Collins he might remember. He said. "I knew some of them > that are buried there...they lived two or three miles below the cemetery and > then there was W. A. Collins who used to live there in Coronaca; might have > had some money. His wife's name was Mitty (Middy?). > > ################ > > > My Great Grandfather (William Berry Compton) and wife P. Alice Day Compton > and some of their relatives (all formerly of Laurens County) are buried > there at this cemetery. A special place for me. My first visit was one year > ago, almost to the day. I want to go back. So who ever asked this question, > thanks for forcing me to make a call to get the whole story again...and this > time I wrote it down! And thanks for caring and ....thanks > > Now, I'll go back to lurking ! > > Charlie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: H.B. Free [mailto:hfree@awod.com] > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:09 PM > > To: SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > > > > > > I don't think there was ever a Church associated with it. There is a > > Bethlehem Methodist Church in Coronaca but, to the best of my > > knowledge, it > > has always been a community cemetery. > > Buck. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Suzanne Collins Matson <SCMATSON@aol.com> > > To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:14 PM > > Subject: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > > > > > > > Posted on: Greenwood Co. SC Queries > > > Reply Here: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood/16 > > > > > > Surname: Collins > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Was there a church associated with Bethlehem Cemetery at some time? If > > > so, what was the denomination? The cemetery is located on Hwy 246 near > > > the intersection of Hwy 246 and Hwy 72 just east of Coronaca. > > > Many of my Collins line are buried there. > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > >

Hi Guys: Buck is right in what he says. I have some details about this cemetery and church that is really not associated. (but kind of is). My grandfathers sister, Gertrude Estelle Compton, married Thomas Henderson Stuart, all, in and of Greenwood. I just got off the telephone with the son of Thomas Henderson Stuart who repeated the following history as he gave to me last summer. A short pencil is much better than a long memory ....... remember that ! Here's what he said to me...again: ############## My grandfather, (Thomas Henderson Stuart's father), gave the land away for this cemetery to "the community" about 1850. It now belongs to an association which "keeps it up". The Bethlehem Cemetery was already there and in place when the Methodist Church built in what is now the cemetery grounds. (This specifically would be inside the front and slightly to the left of the entrance). The church really didn't have any association with the cemetery. In fact, they had a school there at one time. That Church, the Coronaca Methodist Church, has since moved to Coronaca. The school was actually before my time. The reason why I know this church was moved is because my uncle and his wife were married in the Baptist Church because they were moving the Methodist Church at the time and that was around 1902. Later, we sold, which really amounted to "giving", about four additional acres of our place to add to the space of the cemetery to make it bigger. I asked about any Collins he might remember. He said. "I knew some of them that are buried there...they lived two or three miles below the cemetery and then there was W. A. Collins who used to live there in Coronaca; might have had some money. His wife's name was Mitty (Middy?). ################ My Great Grandfather (William Berry Compton) and wife P. Alice Day Compton and some of their relatives (all formerly of Laurens County) are buried there at this cemetery. A special place for me. My first visit was one year ago, almost to the day. I want to go back. So who ever asked this question, thanks for forcing me to make a call to get the whole story again...and this time I wrote it down! And thanks for caring and ....thanks Now, I'll go back to lurking ! Charlie > -----Original Message----- > From: H.B. Free [mailto:hfree@awod.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:09 PM > To: SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > > > I don't think there was ever a Church associated with it. There is a > Bethlehem Methodist Church in Coronaca but, to the best of my > knowledge, it > has always been a community cemetery. > Buck. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne Collins Matson <SCMATSON@aol.com> > To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:14 PM > Subject: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > > > > Posted on: Greenwood Co. SC Queries > > Reply Here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood/16 > > > > Surname: Collins > > ------------------------- > > > > Was there a church associated with Bethlehem Cemetery at some time? If > > so, what was the denomination? The cemetery is located on Hwy 246 near > > the intersection of Hwy 246 and Hwy 72 just east of Coronaca. > > Many of my Collins line are buried there. > > > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Thanks for the great info, Charlie! With contributions like that you shouldn't lurk! It is a beautiful and peaceful place. I was there in April to take pictures of the headstones of my family lines that are buried there. I began thinking about a church being there because of an obituary for John Baldwin who died 15 May 1901 that specifically mentioned the Bethlehem Church cemetery. John Baldwin was the teenage son of Martha Collins (1848-1924) who married (1) ? Baldwin and (2) W. T. Norwood. The Collinses that are remembered by your relative are Buck's line as well as mine. W. A. Collins did live in Coronaca; I believe he owned a store. His wife's name was Mittie Fooshe. Suzanne Collins Matson

I don't think there was ever a Church associated with it. There is a Bethlehem Methodist Church in Coronaca but, to the best of my knowledge, it has always been a community cemetery. Buck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne Collins Matson <SCMATSON@aol.com> To: <SCGREENW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:14 PM Subject: [SCGREENW] Bethlehem Cemetery > Posted on: Greenwood Co. SC Queries > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood/16 > > Surname: Collins > ------------------------- > > Was there a church associated with Bethlehem Cemetery at some time? If > so, what was the denomination? The cemetery is located on Hwy 246 near > the intersection of Hwy 246 and Hwy 72 just east of Coronaca. > Many of my Collins line are buried there. > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > >

Posted on: Greenwood Co. SC Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodObits/2 Surname: Baldwin, Norwood ------------------------- The Greenwood Index May 23, 1901 Accidentally shot himself On the 15th inst., John Baldwin shot and accidentally killed himself at the home of his step father, W. T. Norwood, near Quarry, this county. The young man was cleaning out his gun, a muzzle loader and intended to twist a load out of one barrel. In order to do this he cocked one of the barrels, leaned the gun against the side of the house and went away for something. When he returned he picked up the gun by the barrel and drew it towards him. In doing so the trigger or hammer caught on a nail, causing the gun to go off, and the whole load entered the young man's right side. The nearest physician was sent for immediately, but the unfortunate young man was beyond the aid of medical attention. He died in half an hour after the deplorable accident. He was buried at Bethlehem church the next day. The funeral was attended by a large concourse of sorrowing friends and relatives.

Posted on: Greenwood Co. SC Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood/16 Surname: Collins ------------------------- Was there a church associated with Bethlehem Cemetery at some time? If so, what was the denomination? The cemetery is located on Hwy 246 near the intersection of Hwy 246 and Hwy 72 just east of Coronaca. Many of my Collins line are buried there.

Looking for siblings and father of A. C. Collins (1833-1904). Mother was Mary M. Collins. Two known siblings, Martha and Elizabeth. A. C. Collins lived in the Coronaca community and was very active in the Coronaca Baptist Church. He, Mary and Martha are buried at Bethlehem Cemetery near Coronaca. Suzanne Collins Matson

I am researching the ancestors and descendants of Nathan Chaney who died 1831 in the Ninety Six area. The following children were named in his will: Simeon, Robert, Thomas and a daughter (first name unknown) who married Daniel Hitt. I have information about Simeon (my 3g-grandfather), but very little about Robert and Thomas. I have no information on the daughter except the name of her husband. Simeon was born 1797 in Halifax Co., Va and moved to the Ninety Six area around 1807. He died in 1870 and is buried in the Chaney Family Cemetery. Robert was born c. 1798 according to the census and wife was named Susan. I don't know where he is buried. Thomas may have died in the State Mental Hospital in 1836. I would like to exchange information with others researching this family line. Suzanne Collins Matson

For your information: The following GenConnect boards are available for people researching in Greenwood County, SC: For queries: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood The following boards are for you to share information (and sources please if you have them) with others. Please do not post queries to the following boards: Bible Records http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodBibl Biographies http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodBios Deeds http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/Greenwood Deed Obituaries http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodObits Pensions http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodPens Wills http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/SC/GreenwoodWill If you have any questions or comments about this list, you may always reach me at the following address: SCGREENW-admin@rootsweb.com Now, let's have some fun searching for those elusive (and not so elusive) ancestors! Suzanne Collins Matson

Hello Suzanne, Welcome and best wishes as this list's new Administrator. I'll be unsubscribing under my current e-mail address and immediately re-subscribing under my new e-mail address (<norisun65@yahoo.com>) this weekend. Meantime, I wanted to list the Greenwood area ancestors I'm researching: Seanie (WHITE?)-WALLER (19th century dob & d. 1873); place of burial unknown (my gg grandmother) Nanny & Ellis/Elliott BACKUS (dob, dod & place of burial unknown, possibly Save All cemetery); living in Greenwood area as slaves by 1859. Believed to have been on the John Randolph plantation named Roanoke in Charlotte County, VA until their manumission c. 1846 and re-enslavement shortly thereafter in VA on their way to lands purchased by Randolph for his 350+ manumitted slaves (my gg grandparents) Thomas WALLER of Rte. #2 in Ninety Six/Epworth/Fellowship Township (b. 5/3/1853, d. 5/10/1925); buried old Mount Zion Baptist Church cemetery, Epworth/Fellowship (my g grandfather) Sina BACKUS-WALLER (b. 1859, d. 9/22/1924); buried old Mount Zion Baptist Church cemetery, Epworth/Fellowship (my g grandmother) Sally WALLER-BACKUS (dob unknown (c. 1850), d. 1911); buried Save All cemetery, Greenwood (sister of my g grandfather) James BACKUS (b. abt. 1846 in VA, d. 1905 in Greenwood, SC); buried Save All cemetery, Greenwood (brother of my g grandmother) In addition to information on my ancestors and their slave holders, I am particularly interested in locating the church records of old Mt. Zion Baptist Church as I am certain they would provide clues to my WALLER-BACKUS ancestors. Judith

In a message dated 7/19/00 11:46:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JFHawthorn@aol.com writes: << These families all lived in the Ware Shoals (Donalds) area and attended the Greenville Presbyterian Church. (Many are buried there) >> Do you know if Greenville Presbyterian Church and Old Greenville Presbyterian Church are the same church? I have been looking for one of my gg-grandmothers who is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian Church. The name that I have is Elizabeth James Dunn Swancey. I am not absolutely certain that she was a Dunn who married a Swancey or the other way around. Her second husband was Preston James Butler. Elizabeth is supposed to be buried at Greenville Presbyterian. Preston James Butler is buried with his first wife at Good Hope Baptist in Saluda Co. Any help would be appreciated. Suzanne Collins Matson