This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith and McDonald/McDaniel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UeB.2ACI/3850 Message Board Post: Does anybody know anything about these lines? The following is a typed letter to Jim McDonald which I am sending via the post office. In light of some recent researchthat I have completed, I am sending you the developments, that I have uncovered on Noble W Mcdonald's death cert it reads, Noble W Mcdonald (Full Name) Male White Married Date of birth: Oct 8, 1844 Signed Frank St. Sure July 2, 1916 Colfax, WA Age at Death 71 yrs 8 months 24 days Occupation Farmer Birthplace North Carolina filed July 3, 1916 Place of burial Garfield, WA July 5, 1916 Undertaker F. L. Garwin Address: Garfield, WA This was taken 10/11/2004 from the Vancouver, WA Family History Center on 18th St with a film number 0196550 Walla Walla, (no.287-end) Co. throu Seattle (no. 1-318) Cities Place of Death County of Whitman Citor town of Elberton Registration Dist. No. R-2 Registered no. 7 Record no. 179 As I am sure you know NOble's unit was tank to Camp Douglas, IL which was located on Douglas/Grand Boulevard in Chicago (http://www.chicagohs.org/DGBPhotoEssay/DGB02.html) according to the Chicago Historical Society. Census Diggins.com has an article about Camp Douglas. The book by George Levy, "To Die in Chicago: Confederate Prisoners at Camp Douglas 1862-1965" is a well-written account of the POW camp. This book was publishd by Evanston Publishing Company in Evanston, IL. Milton Asbury Ryan (1842-1916) http://www.izzy.net/~michaleg/ma-ray.htm writes an accout of his experiences in the CSA and of Camp Douglas. In this article, he states that "About the 10th of April, 1865, we were told General Lee had surrendered to General Grant. ... On the 13th day of June 1865, the oath of allegiance as administered to us and we, through the providence of God, walked out of the prison gates free men with free transportation papers in our pockets to our homes." This quote can be found in ! the 2nd and third paragraphs of Chapter V. I also recently foudn the marriage citation at familysearch.org in the IGI for Noble W. McDonald and Narcissa Caroline Smith. In Batch NO. M713971 with a Source Call no of 0339861 which indexes Whitfield County, GA Marriages from 1852-1884, lists the marriage of "Narcissy C. Smith and "Noble W. McDonald" on 01 Jan 1867. I have found Caroline Smith with her father in the 1850 Census, Drewry R. Smith on Page 164 Roll 78 of Microfilm Series M432 in Murray County, GA. A part of Murray County, GA became Whitfield County, GA in I believe 1852. I am told by William Drewry "Sandy" Andrews taht the R in Drewry (or Drury, an alternate spelling in Censuses) stands for Robvert as he was named after Drewry R. Smith. In 1860, Drewry can be foudn on page 630 of Microfilm Series M653 Roll 141 in Dalton, Whitfield County, GA under Drury R. Smith. There are other Drewry/Drurys listed but none of them seem to fit. There are also other Carolines and Narcissa but again tehy also don't seem to work. Caroline's death certificate reads as follows: Place of Death County of Whitman City or Town of Colfax Registration Dist No G Registered No 58 St. Ignatius Hospital 2 FULL NAME Caroline McDonald 354 Personal and Statisical Particulars Sex Female Color or Race White Single, Married or Widowed: Widowed Husband or Wife of N. W. McDonald Date of Birth Oct 14, 1852 Age 75 yrs 7 days Occupation of decased Hosewife Birthplace Dalton, Georgia Name of Father Capt D R Smith Birthplace of father Scotland Maiden name of Mother unknown Birthplace of Mother Scotland Informant Geo. McDonald Filed Sept 22, 1925 I hereby certify that I attended deceased from Sept 17, 1925 to Sept 17 1925 taht I last saw her alive on Sept 20, 1925 adn taht death occurred on the date stated above at 10:35 am (State the disease causing death or in deaths from violent causes state (1) means and nature of injury, and (2) the cause of death as as follow: (Primary) Urania 185 (Duration) 3 days Contributory Shock-following fracture of right hip + ribs (Duration) 4 days Where was disease contracted if not at the place of death? Home in Moscow, Ida. did an operation precede death? No Was there an autopsy? No What test confirmed diagnosis? Claimant (Signed) paul Goe__ __mans Sept 21 1925 Address Colfax, Wash. Place of Burial Garfield, Wash. Undertaker G T Bruning Address colfax, Wash. This record can be found on film 0196618 Washington Death certifcates - 1925 Whatcom (no. 165-end) Co.s throu Seattle (no. 1-165) cities. I found this on Oct 11, 2004 at the Vancouver, WA FHC on 18th ST There is also a citation for the index to the Death certificates: M354 McDonald, Noble W. (M-71) wHTI MAN 7-02-16 cERT # 179 rOLL 0230399 wASHINGTON dEATH iNDEX A-Z 1907-1909 M 354 page 679 McDonald, Caroline (F-73) Whitman 9-21-25 Cert # 167 Roll 0230400 Washington Death Index A-M354 1920-1929. This one was also found at the Vancouver FHC on 10-11-04 Drury Smith's census info from 1830-1880: 1830 SC Smtih, Drury Greenville, County SC Roll 173 Page 333 on the same page there lists a Smith, Joseph and Smith, George which appear to be the eldest of the 4 total Smiths on the census page. Sandy Andrews believes that the Joseph Smith is Drury's father but no conclusive information has been found. 1840 GA D R Smith district 956 Walker Co Roll 52 Page 70 1850 GA Drury R Smith Murray County Page 164 Microfilm Series M432 Roll 78. 1860 GA Drury R Smith Dalton, Whitfield Co., GA page 630 Microfilm Series M653 Roll 141 1870 GA Drewry R Smith Militia Distric 872 Whitfield co., GA Microfilm Series M593 Roll 183 Page 128 1880 GA Drewry Smith East Dalton, Whitfield Co, GA Microlfim Series T9 Roll 171 Page 34 Enumeration District 194 Line 8 1900 GA (Drewry's 2nd wife) Missoruia E Smith Dalton, Whifield, fa Microfilm Series T623 Roll 229 Page 144 Drewry Smtih was part of the GA Home Guards, as a part of the CSA, of Whitfield Co., GA and worked for the local casket maker(?). His occupation ahs been lsited as a carpenter. This fits with fmily lore as it says taht he made coffins during the Civil War and traveled to Atlanta. My attempt right now is to find some evidence to prve/disprove the fmaily lore statig that Caroline Smith and Noble W. McDonald were cousins. As Noble was went by his mom to see his cousins in GA where he met Caroline. I also find it interested that Drewry Smith is in Greenville in 1830. I am also hoping that by tracking the Smiths that it will unlock the McDonalds in SC. In 1830 I find a L P Mcdonnall on page 351 Roll 16 of Columbia co., GA. In 1820 I find a Levey McDaniel in Greenville, SC on page 99 Roll 120 Microfilm series M33. Also in 1820 SC there is a Levi McDaniel on Page 80A Roll 118 Series M33 which is in Edgefield County, SC. With a Drury Smith on Page 85 Roll 120 Sieres M33 in Greenville Co, SC The following are all Smiths in Greenville Co., SC Roll 120 Series M33 with page numbers next to the names: Joseph Smith 113 Joseph Smith 107 Joseph Smith 93 AT 91 Abnor 97 Adam 100 Benj 108 Betsey 102 David 75 Henry 105 James 102 James 113 James 105 Joel 102 John 105 John 99 John 79 John D 91 John S 102 Joshua 108 Micagah T 86 Perry 113 Sims 102 Thomas 85 Thomas 94 Turner 104 Wm 115 There is a John Smith on the same page as Levey McDaniel. John Smith is on line 1 while Levey is on the 2nd line from the bottom of the page along with a David L and Jos. W McDaniel at about 1/2 down the page. That is all for now, as it is 11:16 pm here PST and time for bed. later, Mary Newsum [email protected]