Dan wrote: Definitely the same family. I just find them a little murky. By the way, what McClanahans. My cousin Mary Evelyn Verner b. 1845 married Dr. James Marshall McClanahan. I think they lived in Oconee. His father was Samuel Girard and gfather John. =========================================== This is how I think your Dr. James Marshall McClanahan who married Mary Evelyn Verner connects to my line of McClanahans. I have no records for James and Mary and would like to know about their family: 1) Dr. James McClanahan married Mary Verner 2) Samuel Gerard McClanahan b 1802, married Harriet Harrison 3) John Marshall McClanahan b 1765, married Nancy Earle 4) Rev. William Smith McClanahan b 1732, married Mary Marshall 5) William McClanahan b abt. 1692, married Martha Smith No. 5, William McClanahan was also the father of Peter McClanahan b 1734, married Magdalene Bayley. Peter and Magdalene were the parents of John McClanahan (1764-1847) married Mary Robinson 1791 in Westmoreland Co., VA. Lived in Greenville Co. SC from about 1800 until 1819 when they moved to MS. The family of John McClanahan and Mary Robinson connect in at least two ways to me and to the family of Peter Crawford and Elizabeth Loveless in Winston Co., MS. One: Their son, Peter Rice McClanahan, married Sarah Ann McKenzie in Greenville SC about 1820. Sarah Ann, daughter of Reuben McKenzie of Greenville, was a sister to my direct ancestor, Mary McKenzie who married Samuel Wragg in Greenville about 1815. Two: John McClanahan and Mary Robinson daughter, Hannah, married Joseph Barron in Greenville in 1811. Mary, a daughter of Hannah and Joseph Barron, married Davis Terry Crawford, son of Peter and Elizabeth Crawford. David Wragg, son of Samuel Wragg and Mary McKenzie, married Catherine Crawford, daughter of Peter Crawford. All these families (plus various other relations to all of them) were in Winston Co., MS by late 1830s. Murky is a good word for these families - perhaps entangled is another. Throw in the Strothers and Robinsons and it gets more so. And don’t you love it that they all named their kids the same thing? I would be interested in any information you find on the Wragg or McKenzie families. Old Reuben McKenzie along with families of his daugther, Sarah Ann and Peter McClanahan and son, Benjamin McKenzie, moved to Anderson Co. TX in Dec. of 1850. I have other questions but will wait on those - happy to share anything I have. Dana