Thanks for the info, Tommy. Since I wrote that message, I've come a *long* way. :o) I still haven't gotten out to the cemetary (or gotten info on the g aunt's stage run); however, I've made contact with a cousin who will be showing me the cemetary soon. Considering the name and area, we have to be related! You can email me at thoseb4us@aol.com -- would love to hear from you. Thanks again!

OLD STAGE RD. IS IN SIMPSONVILLE, GREENVILLE COUNTY, AND NOT A QUARTER MILE AWAY, I HAVE BEEN TOLD OF A FOWLER FAMILY CEMETERY FOR YEARS, IT IS SOMEWHERE BEFIND A SUBDIVISOIN CALLED { FOWLER'S WOODS }, THE SUBDIVISOIN IS NOT HARD TO FIND, IT IS AT THE END OF HYW. 14 THAT COMES FROM GREER, S.C.. I THINK THAT HAS TO BE THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. CarolinaFowlers@AOL.COM

Seeking info on Alvin and brother Calvin Burrell who moved from upper Greenville Co, SC (Glassy Mountain area) to NC. I know that Alvin, wife Manerva ?, their son, Peter and his wife, Emeline Gosnell Burrell are all buried at Antioch Church, think Baptist, in Democrat, NC. Think this is in Buncombe Co, NC. Alvin born 1824, Peter born 1840-

Hi all, I'm doing a historical research on Henry Clay Thurston b: May 4, 1830 in Greenville County, SC and died 1909 in Texas. He was known as the "Texas Giant" the tallest man in the Civil War. Does anyone have any genealogy on this man. It would be greatly appreciated. David

I have never found the proof of William Dawson, Shoemaker. I am attempting to find James W. Dawson born in SC, abt 1846, perhaps Greenville County. He was married to Eliza born abt 1843, in SC. Her name may have been Elizabeth J. They had a son born in SC, John K. abt 1867. They are in Arkansas by 1872/1873 where their son William was born. They are on the 1880 Yell County, AR Census. Any help would be appreciated.

HAPPY 4th of JULY 2001...... http://www.geocities.com/grace24u/4thofjul.html

GREENVILLE, SC---Memorial services for Nida Louise Koelker Renfro, 81, will be held at 4:30 p.m. Monday at Rolling Green Village, 3 Hoke Smith Boulevard, with Rev. Dillard Alexander officiating. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the American Heart Association, 301 University Ridge, Suite 5000, Greenville, SC 29601, or to the U. S. Naval Academy Alumni Association, P. O. Box 64975, Baltimore, MD 21264. The Mackey Mortuary is in charge. Mrs. Renfro, wife of Captain John Norton Renfro, Retired U.S. Navy, & formerly of ORANGEBURG, SC, & COLUMBIA, SC, died Friday, June 2, 2000. Born in TOLEDO, OH, she was the daughter of the late Oscar Hugo & Grace Foley Koelker. Surviving are her husband; daughters, Ann R. Dominick & her husband, Jim of GREENVILLE, Holly R. Keyes of ATLANTA, GA; son, John N. Renfro Jr. & his wife, Margie of KINGSPORT, TN; grandchildren, Carolina Dominick, Chris, Michael, Ashley, & Robyn Renfro, Karen & Tracy Williamson. [The State, Columbia, SC, Sunday, June 4, 2000].

List, I would point all,who have an interest historical maps, to a fairly new web site in which the owner of 4410 maps has scanned & offered free access to this wonderful collection of maps. http://www.davidrumsey.com/ Byron F. Stone

BAMBERG, SC---Services for Rebecca "Becky" Mundy will be held at 6 p.m. Monday, June 5, 2000 at Mercer Funeral Home, DENMARK, SC. Memorials may be made to the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals [SPCA]. Ms. Mundy died Thursday, June 1, 2000 in Bamberg County Memorial Hospital. Born in GREENVILLE, SC, she was the daughter of Emily Brabham Mundy & the late James C. Mundy III. Surviving are her son, Joe David Crnkovich of LUFKIN, TX; mother of BAMBERG; sister, Emily M. Gunnells of OLAR, SC; brother, Jim Mundy of COLUMBIA, SC; nieces, Dawn Hall, Beth Saitz of BAMBERG, Tina Ellington of SAVANNAH, GA, Cassie Lypen of GOLD HILL, NC, Jennifer, Christi Gunnells of OLAR, Brittany Mundy of DALLAS, TX; nephews, Jim Mundy of GASTON, SC, Chance Mundy of DALLAS; great nieces & nephews. [The State, Columbia, SC, Sunday, June 4, 2000].

I can't help you with McKinney but I can tell you about Rebecca Cothran, dau. of Samuel Woodson Cothran (d CSA) & son of John Cothran & Sarah Ann Woodson of Greenville Co., SC. peggy b chapman > > Hi! My ggrandfather was a Daniel Matthew McKinney born > 8-14-1846 in Pickens County. I believe his mothers name is Rachel. I am searching for his father who does not appear on the 1860 cencus. D.M. Mckinney married a Rebecca Cothran on 10-16-1867 and they moved to Dawson County GA. Any information would be helpful. Thank You! e-mail jsjrohring@aol.com

Looking for information on Daniel Matthew Mckinney born on 8-14-1846 in Pickens county 1860 cencus lists a Rachel Mckinney as head of household 50 years old. Married a Rebecca Cothran 10-16-1867. I am searching for his father. Thanks

Looking for information on Daniel Matthew Mckinney born on 8-14-1846 in Pickens county 1860 cencus lists a Rachel Mckinney as head of household 50 years old. Married a Rebecca Cothran 10-16-1867. I am searching for his father. Thanks

Hi! My ggrandfather was a Daniel Matthew McKinney born 8-14-1846 in Pickens County. I believe his mothers name is Rachel. I am searching for his father who does not appear on the 1860 cencus. D.M. Mckinney married a Rebecca Cothran on 10-16-1867 and they moved to Dawson County GA. Any information would be helpful. Thank You! e-mail jsjrohring@aol.com

Does anyone know what the earliest date is for Upper South Carolina Maps? I would like to see a map of that area before 1790. Are there early maps at the Archive or one of the Genealogy Libraries? Thanks, Ellen

According to the book "Greenville" by Archie Vernon Huff Jr., those killed were "Anthony and Elizabeth Hampton and the infant son of their daughter, Elizabeth Harrison.", also, the two children of Preston Hampton, on June 30,1776, On July 1, 1776, killed were Jacob Hite; his two daughters Susan and Eleanor disappeared, and his wife Frances was kidnapped, later found dead. John and Anne Armstrong are mentioned as having bought land in 1775 and Anne petitioned for the recovery of the 500 acres in Feb. 1784, along with the heirs of Jacob Hite, who submitted a claim for 61,000 acres of land that same month. Anne Armstrong was granted her 500 acres; Six Hite heirs received 6000 acres. It reads as if the Hites and Armstrongs were patriots during the Revolutionary War and were allowed to get their land back.

does anyone have any names of the people killed and captured during the indians raids of 1776 also may be known as the HAMPTON or HIOTT massacre ? i am looking for info on any ARMSTRONG who may have been involved.

My ancestor, Thomas HOOD b 1762 in VA, m Sarah MORGAN 6 Mar 1781 in Wilkes Co., NC. Resided in Pendleton Co., then Greenville Co., SC. Using the census records available, it appears he may have had a son Nipper b 1784/1785. According to census records available for Nipper, his two sons were b 1810-1820. I have tried to put this family together through census records and land records, I don't claim to be correct, but it looks pretty good. I show Thomas and Sarah also had a son, Thomas Jr., b abt 1783/84. According to those same census records, his oldest son was b abt 1794/1800, if he were born 1798 I guess at 14 he could have served in the War of 1812. That's a reach, but stranger things have happened. There is another Thomas HOOD, cousin to my Thomas. He was b in 1758 in/around Prince William Co., VA. After the RW he was in Pendleton Co., SC for 25 years before moving to White Co., TN. I know nothing more about his family, except that he may have had a son William. His RW pension application number is #S4379. I hope you're able to find your ancestor. I'll be most happy to share with you what I have collected, mostly through generous researchers! Let me know if I can help further.

My ggg-grandfather John Page born Greenville S.C. in 1789. Nancy Ross (born 1796) in SC was my ggg-grandmother. They migrated to West Tennessee in 1820's with other families. His family remained in SC. I'm looking for any information on my gggg-grandfather John Page and their family who remained in Greenville SC. Would appreciate any little tidbit of information. Thanks all, Benny Page

CRYSTAL RIVER, FL---Services for Albert Jennings Varney, 82, will be held at 11 a.m. Monday, June 5, 2000 at the First Baptist Church, Crystal River, with Rev. L. B. Thomason officiating. In lieu of flowers, the family suggests that memorials be made to Shriners Children's Hospital, 950 West Faris Road, Greenville, SC 29605. Stickland Funeral Home of Crystal River is in charge. Mr. Varney died Wednesday, May 31, 2000. Born in WILLIAMSON, MINGO COUNTY, WV, he was the son of the late Albert Sr. & Myrtle Sammons Varney. He moved to Florida 42 years ago from ABBEVILLE, SC. Mr. Varney was a music instructor, band director, professional musician, & Director of Music and Fine Arts in the Citrus County School System, retiring after 27 years. He graduated from the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music, where he received his masters degree. Mr. Varney was a 32nd Degree Mason & a Shriner [Hejaz Temple, GREENVILLE, SC, where he also played in the Shrine Band]. He was a World War II veteran, serving in the U. S. Navy. He was a member of the First Baptist Church of Crystal River. Surviving are his wife of 58 years, Gene Adams Varney of CRYSTAL RIVER; sons, Russell & his wife, Cindy Varney of TEMPLE TERRACE, FL, Mark Varney, Brad Varney, both of CRYSTAL RIVER; daughter, Elaine Varney Panuska & her husband, Robert of NOVA SCOTIA; grandchildren, Matthew, Cass Panuska, Adam Varney. [The State, Columbia, SC, Saturday, June 3, 2000].

Please take the time today to write a letter to your Senators, your Representative, the President, the Vice-President and the Secretary of Human and Health Services. Addresses at the bottom of this e-mail..... This is so important to all genealogists! The rate increase will be effective July 1st, so we don't have much time! Please write today, it will only take a few minutes to compose a letter and send it off...... -------------------------------------------------------- Copied from a post to another list:                           I have just discovered that the SSA is raising the price by 286% for the most valuable tool that genealogists request, the SS-5 form, Original Application for SS Number...                         It is going up from its present $7 to $27, effective 1 July 2001.....                   Reference: <http://www.ssa.gov/foia/foia_guide.htm#_Toc517745431> This is untenable, since many people who do genealogy are older retired folks on fixed income... and this large increase appears to be intended to discourage the public from access to documents under the Freedom of Information Act.                   How can it cost $27 to receive a request, then make and mail a copy of the one page document???   ...Government is not intended to be making a profit... The $7 seems high, when you actually evaluate the task...and Researching costs more...Could it be that they have some awfully high paid clerks...and/or interns...???                   Since anything can be proven by statistics, I don't believe their "analysis" but you might want to make your representatives in Congress aware of this... ---------------------------------------------- Senate Addresses   <http://www.senate.gov/> ---------------------------------------------- House Addresses   <http://www.house.gov/> ---------------------------------------------- President George W. Bush: <president@whitehouse.gov> ----------------------------------------------Vice President Dick Cheney: <vice.president@whitehouse.gov> ----------------------------------------------   Assistant-Secretary for HHS: <Sandra.Eubanks-Brown@hhs.gov> ---------------------------------------------- Notify all your Genealogical buddies, too??? We all need to write... ===================================