Please note below. Denise Wells Begin forwarded message: > From: Denise Wells <ncusgenweb@gmail.com> > Date: July 11, 2015 at 11:53:06 AM EDT > To: Board <board@rootsweb.com>, usgenweb-discuss <usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com>, usgenweb-all <usgenweb-all@rootsweb.com>, state-coord <state-coord@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Gayle Triller <gaylelt@comcast.net> > Subject: Voting Passwords > > PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL APPROPRIATE REGIONAL AND STATE LISTS > > I understand that some people are having difficulty in obtaining their passwords. Please know that our IT person is working on that presently. I also understand that sometimes it is difficult to know where to go to request your password for voting in the current election. > > At the present time, please use this link for obtaining your password. If you are having difficulty, please do not hesitate to let the election committee know. I believe our IT person can see when there are problems, but as you should know, I'm definitely not an IT person. The process is definitely being worked on. > > Please check the following to obtain your password: > > http://usgenweb.org/usgwelections/ > > If you run into problems, please notify Gayle Triller, who is being copied on this email. > > Thank you for your patience. > > > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator 2014-2016 > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly)

Jeff, You are preaching to the choir. We know how bad things have gotten. That's why we have asked for assistance (and have in previous years, too). We appreciate the effort, and you've done a great job with the page designs. I wish we could start over and you could want to know us as people and as volunteers. We are not perfect, and we all have lives outside the USGenWeb Project, but we have been here holding things together as best we could for a long time. Respectful two-way communication is the only way we will dig out of this and be a strong project again. We are hopeful that it can happen. Pat Sabin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kemp via" <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> To: cgolowka@gmail.com, scgenweb@rootsweb.com Cc: "Denise Wells" <ncusgenweb@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:36:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] (no subject) Hello All I usually don't get involved in these sort of discussions. However I need to say a few things. I started with the USGW in 1996 and I still maintain that original county. I have personally built probably more then fifty counties and about 6 states give or take a few counties. I have done hundreds of graphics for these counties and even other counties & states that I never CC'd. I won't even begin to mention money spent, my wife would absolutely kill me! I was asked to assist in helping South Carolina rebuild. I first reviewed the whole state website and every county all 45 I believe is the correct number. Several counties were in good condition, I won't name names, most had not been touched in years as long ago as 2006. One county was completely down, several with graphics not loading and I lost track of sites with non functioning links. In total 25 of 45 counties were either not loading, adoptable or had CC's that deserted. Worst I have ever seen, in my years of service to the Project. I do know that I have tried several times over the years to become a CC in the SCGenWeb never once receiving a reply. The counties that my family lived in while in SC are currently being CC'd by Paul. I'll let Paul attest to my discussions/emails with him in the last couple of weeks, if he so wishes. And so everything is crystal clear I purchased the domain name www.scgenweb.org and used my own hosting account to begin repairing SCGenWeb, this was done before my learning/reviewing the sad shape South Carolina was in. I also know from experience that the folks who volunteer and become CC's and never update their sites or ones that just like to have their name on a website or the ones that just like to have power are the ones that holler and complain the most when transformation takes place. These are also the ones a true managing State Coordinator has to every so often remind them that their website needs attention. These are usually the first to cause division and try to assume control also. I did not get involved to make a name for myself. I believe I have done that already and my work and time and money proves that! I did not get involved with SCGenWeb because I need more States or Counties to manage, the Good Lord knows I have enough. Nor do I do if for power, my wife only allows me to have so much of that. I was asked by a good, honest, hard working friend and member of this project for help. I already have 30 plus hours in the project not to mention a couple bucks. I have adopted two counties that I have zero connections too. I was going to do three but a mistake was made regarding that one and that mistake was corrected ASAP. However not until I had spent 10 hours redoing the county. So from my stand point if you want to remain with the same State project you had then you'll continue to listen to the same old song and that is your choice! However if you want something better for the SCGenWeb the you'll need to assist Denise in her choices. Thanks Jeff Kemp SCGenWeb > On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Carolyn Golowka via <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Denise, > > I thought I had given you access to the mail list I created. I thought > giving you co-admin authority you could do what you needed. Obviously, I > was wrong. Co-admin didn't do the job. Now that you have created your own > list, I won't have to turn it over to you this morning as I had originally > planned, a bit later than last night when I had no access to my computer, > but not an unreasonable delay. > > I received an email from you last night demanding that I turn over my mail > list to you. Since I have responsibilities beyond the GenWeb and this is a > volunteer "job," those other responsibilities have to take precedence. I > couldn't get to my computer to do anything due to my other responsibilities. > You, however, are very impatient and just didn't give me enough time, not > even 24 hours. This does not bode well with me. As acting state > coordinator, you will have to give people enough time to take care of > things. THIS IS A VOLUNTEER JOB WE DO FOR THE LOVE OF IT. > > This state is under dire circumstances. I am grateful for your help to > straighten this out. The few of us left have tried to do the best we could. > However, by using pressure tactics, you may well loose more CCs. Even your > statement in this communication, " We are certainly not interested in > "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need to > be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance > getting that done, you should make a request," sounds threatening. Now that > you have demanded my mail list and are in effect demanding that changes be > made "as soon as possible", I would be a bit leery of giving you my access > information to my website. Yes, you can ask rootsweb for help on my site > but other websites are not housed where you can get to them. If someone > needed "help" they would give you full access to their sites in order for > you to help. I, for one, would be hesitant. By the way, I have made changes > to my website already. Did them the first day the logos were available. > But that doesn't mean that other CCs may be away for the holidays, yes this > soon as many are retired, and not able to make these corrections yet. > > This is the holidays. People go on vacation and have other things do to at > this time of the year. Your timing could have been better if you started > this "pressure" after the first of the year. Give people a chance to make > the changes. Yes, a few weeks until after the holidays seems a long time, > but please be patient and give people time to accomplish the task. Stop > using "bullying" tactics, please. Start using some patience. Don't get all > "huffy" now because I have taken you to task for what I perceive as being > unreasonable. Please, please calm down and let's get the work done in a > patient and forgiving manner. Instantaneous isn't going to happen in an > organization of volunteers, never has, never will. > > Now, I hope you have a happy holiday season. Thank you again for taking on > this difficult task. Just add a bit of patience to your repertoire and > things my go a bit smoother. > > Carolyn Golowka > SCGenWeb - Edgefield County Coordinator > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Denise Wells via > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:03 AM > To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] (no subject) > > For those of you who are CCs in South Carolina, I have created a new > official mail group for CC business. In order for me to effectively manage > the responsibilities of the state, I cannot do it through a mail list for > which I cannot access the subscriber information. You should have received > a welcome email to that new group. > > If you are currently a CC for SCGenWeb and have not received a welcome email > and added to the list, please let me know privately. I will then add you to > that mail list. > > I apologize for needing to do this, but I have so much to do that I cannot > operate by needing to wait to obtain information. It needs to be > instantaneous. I do work full time; however, I do have access to my email > on my phone and at times through work. > > Private business for individual CCs are not to be handled on the mail list. > It is for notifications and discussions, but please write privately to > myself and Jeff Kemp if you have an issue. We are certainly not interested > in "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need > to be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance > getting that done, you should make a request. > > Bottom line is that from now on use the new Google Group mail list, or send > private email to myself and Jeff Kemp. Thanks. > > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understand the need. Certainly, every state needs bylaws, and we should see a proposal, hammer it out, and have a vote. It's always good to have other perspectives, and those of us who are active in several states may have an idea of what has and hasn't worked. It's difficult with a handful of coordinators, but we wouldn't be here if we weren't dedicated. Disheartened and weary, but dedicated. Pat S Bamberg, Colleton, Dorchester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Golowka via" <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:34:44 AM Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb list on rootsweb This mail list will still exist. It is for discussion amongst the CCs of South Carolina WITHOUT the National Coordinator or State Coordinator. It is my list created for us to be able to discuss "behind closed doors" so to speak. It is NOT official by any means and never has been. It has been for private discussion amongst the CCs and the CCs only. The National Coordinator tried to take it over, and I would have gladly done so if she had not been so impatient. We still have our list and we can still discuss. If she wants to monitor it through rootsweb, more power to her. But we can still discuss on this list. If you prefer, we can create our own group elsewhere to try to keep things even more private and not archived at rootsweb, please let me know. If we have a consensus, then I will set that up. Hang in there. We will have a new state coordinator soon and hopefully we can put all this unpleasantness behind us. Carolyn Golowka SCGenWeb Project - Edgefield County Coordinator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All I usually don't get involved in these sort of discussions. However I need to say a few things. I started with the USGW in 1996 and I still maintain that original county. I have personally built probably more then fifty counties and about 6 states give or take a few counties. I have done hundreds of graphics for these counties and even other counties & states that I never CC'd. I won't even begin to mention money spent, my wife would absolutely kill me! I was asked to assist in helping South Carolina rebuild. I first reviewed the whole state website and every county all 45 I believe is the correct number. Several counties were in good condition, I won't name names, most had not been touched in years as long ago as 2006. One county was completely down, several with graphics not loading and I lost track of sites with non functioning links. In total 25 of 45 counties were either not loading, adoptable or had CC's that deserted. Worst I have ever seen, in my years of service to the Project. I do know that I have tried several times over the years to become a CC in the SCGenWeb never once receiving a reply. The counties that my family lived in while in SC are currently being CC'd by Paul. I'll let Paul attest to my discussions/emails with him in the last couple of weeks, if he so wishes. And so everything is crystal clear I purchased the domain name www.scgenweb.org and used my own hosting account to begin repairing SCGenWeb, this was done before my learning/reviewing the sad shape South Carolina was in. I also know from experience that the folks who volunteer and become CC's and never update their sites or ones that just like to have their name on a website or the ones that just like to have power are the ones that holler and complain the most when transformation takes place. These are also the ones a true managing State Coordinator has to every so often remind them that their website needs attention. These are usually the first to cause division and try to assume control also. I did not get involved to make a name for myself. I believe I have done that already and my work and time and money proves that! I did not get involved with SCGenWeb because I need more States or Counties to manage, the Good Lord knows I have enough. Nor do I do if for power, my wife only allows me to have so much of that. I was asked by a good, honest, hard working friend and member of this project for help. I already have 30 plus hours in the project not to mention a couple bucks. I have adopted two counties that I have zero connections too. I was going to do three but a mistake was made regarding that one and that mistake was corrected ASAP. However not until I had spent 10 hours redoing the county. So from my stand point if you want to remain with the same State project you had then you'll continue to listen to the same old song and that is your choice! However if you want something better for the SCGenWeb the you'll need to assist Denise in her choices. Thanks Jeff Kemp SCGenWeb > On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Carolyn Golowka via <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Denise, > > I thought I had given you access to the mail list I created. I thought > giving you co-admin authority you could do what you needed. Obviously, I > was wrong. Co-admin didn't do the job. Now that you have created your own > list, I won't have to turn it over to you this morning as I had originally > planned, a bit later than last night when I had no access to my computer, > but not an unreasonable delay. > > I received an email from you last night demanding that I turn over my mail > list to you. Since I have responsibilities beyond the GenWeb and this is a > volunteer "job," those other responsibilities have to take precedence. I > couldn't get to my computer to do anything due to my other responsibilities. > You, however, are very impatient and just didn't give me enough time, not > even 24 hours. This does not bode well with me. As acting state > coordinator, you will have to give people enough time to take care of > things. THIS IS A VOLUNTEER JOB WE DO FOR THE LOVE OF IT. > > This state is under dire circumstances. I am grateful for your help to > straighten this out. The few of us left have tried to do the best we could. > However, by using pressure tactics, you may well loose more CCs. Even your > statement in this communication, " We are certainly not interested in > "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need to > be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance > getting that done, you should make a request," sounds threatening. Now that > you have demanded my mail list and are in effect demanding that changes be > made "as soon as possible", I would be a bit leery of giving you my access > information to my website. Yes, you can ask rootsweb for help on my site > but other websites are not housed where you can get to them. If someone > needed "help" they would give you full access to their sites in order for > you to help. I, for one, would be hesitant. By the way, I have made changes > to my website already. Did them the first day the logos were available. > But that doesn't mean that other CCs may be away for the holidays, yes this > soon as many are retired, and not able to make these corrections yet. > > This is the holidays. People go on vacation and have other things do to at > this time of the year. Your timing could have been better if you started > this "pressure" after the first of the year. Give people a chance to make > the changes. Yes, a few weeks until after the holidays seems a long time, > but please be patient and give people time to accomplish the task. Stop > using "bullying" tactics, please. Start using some patience. Don't get all > "huffy" now because I have taken you to task for what I perceive as being > unreasonable. Please, please calm down and let's get the work done in a > patient and forgiving manner. Instantaneous isn't going to happen in an > organization of volunteers, never has, never will. > > Now, I hope you have a happy holiday season. Thank you again for taking on > this difficult task. Just add a bit of patience to your repertoire and > things my go a bit smoother. > > Carolyn Golowka > SCGenWeb - Edgefield County Coordinator > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Denise Wells via > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:03 AM > To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] (no subject) > > For those of you who are CCs in South Carolina, I have created a new > official mail group for CC business. In order for me to effectively manage > the responsibilities of the state, I cannot do it through a mail list for > which I cannot access the subscriber information. You should have received > a welcome email to that new group. > > If you are currently a CC for SCGenWeb and have not received a welcome email > and added to the list, please let me know privately. I will then add you to > that mail list. > > I apologize for needing to do this, but I have so much to do that I cannot > operate by needing to wait to obtain information. It needs to be > instantaneous. I do work full time; however, I do have access to my email > on my phone and at times through work. > > Private business for individual CCs are not to be handled on the mail list. > It is for notifications and discussions, but please write privately to > myself and Jeff Kemp if you have an issue. We are certainly not interested > in "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need > to be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance > getting that done, you should make a request. > > Bottom line is that from now on use the new Google Group mail list, or send > private email to myself and Jeff Kemp. Thanks. > > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This mail list will still exist. It is for discussion amongst the CCs of South Carolina WITHOUT the National Coordinator or State Coordinator. It is my list created for us to be able to discuss "behind closed doors" so to speak. It is NOT official by any means and never has been. It has been for private discussion amongst the CCs and the CCs only. The National Coordinator tried to take it over, and I would have gladly done so if she had not been so impatient. We still have our list and we can still discuss. If she wants to monitor it through rootsweb, more power to her. But we can still discuss on this list. If you prefer, we can create our own group elsewhere to try to keep things even more private and not archived at rootsweb, please let me know. If we have a consensus, then I will set that up. Hang in there. We will have a new state coordinator soon and hopefully we can put all this unpleasantness behind us. Carolyn Golowka SCGenWeb Project - Edgefield County Coordinator

For those of you who are CCs in South Carolina, I have created a new official mail group for CC business. In order for me to effectively manage the responsibilities of the state, I cannot do it through a mail list for which I cannot access the subscriber information. You should have received a welcome email to that new group. If you are currently a CC for SCGenWeb and have not received a welcome email and added to the list, please let me know privately. I will then add you to that mail list. I apologize for needing to do this, but I have so much to do that I cannot operate by needing to wait to obtain information. It needs to be instantaneous. I do work full time; however, I do have access to my email on my phone and at times through work. Private business for individual CCs are not to be handled on the mail list. It is for notifications and discussions, but please write privately to myself and Jeff Kemp if you have an issue. We are certainly not interested in "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need to be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance getting that done, you should make a request. Bottom line is that from now on use the new Google Group mail list, or send private email to myself and Jeff Kemp. Thanks. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly)

Denise, I thought I had given you access to the mail list I created. I thought giving you co-admin authority you could do what you needed. Obviously, I was wrong. Co-admin didn't do the job. Now that you have created your own list, I won't have to turn it over to you this morning as I had originally planned, a bit later than last night when I had no access to my computer, but not an unreasonable delay. I received an email from you last night demanding that I turn over my mail list to you. Since I have responsibilities beyond the GenWeb and this is a volunteer "job," those other responsibilities have to take precedence. I couldn't get to my computer to do anything due to my other responsibilities. You, however, are very impatient and just didn't give me enough time, not even 24 hours. This does not bode well with me. As acting state coordinator, you will have to give people enough time to take care of things. THIS IS A VOLUNTEER JOB WE DO FOR THE LOVE OF IT. This state is under dire circumstances. I am grateful for your help to straighten this out. The few of us left have tried to do the best we could. However, by using pressure tactics, you may well loose more CCs. Even your statement in this communication, " We are certainly not interested in "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need to be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance getting that done, you should make a request," sounds threatening. Now that you have demanded my mail list and are in effect demanding that changes be made "as soon as possible", I would be a bit leery of giving you my access information to my website. Yes, you can ask rootsweb for help on my site but other websites are not housed where you can get to them. If someone needed "help" they would give you full access to their sites in order for you to help. I, for one, would be hesitant. By the way, I have made changes to my website already. Did them the first day the logos were available. But that doesn't mean that other CCs may be away for the holidays, yes this soon as many are retired, and not able to make these corrections yet. This is the holidays. People go on vacation and have other things do to at this time of the year. Your timing could have been better if you started this "pressure" after the first of the year. Give people a chance to make the changes. Yes, a few weeks until after the holidays seems a long time, but please be patient and give people time to accomplish the task. Stop using "bullying" tactics, please. Start using some patience. Don't get all "huffy" now because I have taken you to task for what I perceive as being unreasonable. Please, please calm down and let's get the work done in a patient and forgiving manner. Instantaneous isn't going to happen in an organization of volunteers, never has, never will. Now, I hope you have a happy holiday season. Thank you again for taking on this difficult task. Just add a bit of patience to your repertoire and things my go a bit smoother. Carolyn Golowka SCGenWeb - Edgefield County Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Wells via Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:03 AM To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] (no subject) For those of you who are CCs in South Carolina, I have created a new official mail group for CC business. In order for me to effectively manage the responsibilities of the state, I cannot do it through a mail list for which I cannot access the subscriber information. You should have received a welcome email to that new group. If you are currently a CC for SCGenWeb and have not received a welcome email and added to the list, please let me know privately. I will then add you to that mail list. I apologize for needing to do this, but I have so much to do that I cannot operate by needing to wait to obtain information. It needs to be instantaneous. I do work full time; however, I do have access to my email on my phone and at times through work. Private business for individual CCs are not to be handled on the mail list. It is for notifications and discussions, but please write privately to myself and Jeff Kemp if you have an issue. We are certainly not interested in "firing" active coordinators; however, all changes that were posted need to be made to your counties as soon as possible. If you need assistance getting that done, you should make a request. Bottom line is that from now on use the new Google Group mail list, or send private email to myself and Jeff Kemp. Thanks. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, we know that you always have been responsive. I think it was a HUGE mistake, considering all of us who have up to date membership information. I am really sorry this happened. I think it was unintentional, but I'm sure you feel like you've been mugged. This needs to be corrected. We are a very small and dedicated group of volunteers who have STAYED. I would hate to lose you. Pat Sabin -----Original Message----- From: Janet Moore via [mailto:scgenweb@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 04:55 PM To: ''Victoria'', scgenweb@rootsweb.com Cc: ''Jeff Kemp'' Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb That website was close to 200 pages with my name and contact information on every single page. Not once did they let me know that they were copying and pasting everything on that site to Jeff's. What this means to me is that Jeff had 200 opportunities to make a decision to contact me but he chose to take the website instead. I don't have anything to reconsider. I can't believe that this has happened but I can tell you for sure that it won't happen to me again!Janet Moore-----Original Message-----From: Victoria [mailto:vproc@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:13 PMTo: Janet Moore; scgenweb@rootsweb.comCc: Denise Wells; Jeff KempSubject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWebDear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a moment and reconsider if all is set right. Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response via this list requesting to keep her county.Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a few days to reconsider?Sincerely,Victoria Proctor-----Original Message----->From: Janet Moore via>Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM>To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com>Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb>>I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I >looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I >put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! >I am done with all of this!!!>>-----Original Message----->From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com]>On Behalf Of Janet Moore via>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM>To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com>Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb>>As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014.>>-----Original Message----->From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net]>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM>To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com'>Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb>>I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep >my county.>>-----Original Message----->From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com]>On Behalf Of Denise Wells via>Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM>To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com>Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why is someone who is NOT a member of this project posting on this list? Laverne Tornow Greenwood, Laurens and Newberry Counties On 12/8/2014 7:57 PM, BillRogers via wrote: > Janet and Victoria stand your ground and take up for yourselves and don't > get pushed around , Jeff stick your head in the sand and quit trying to make > a > name for your self. > > > Bill Rogers Family Roots from Dillon and Marion County > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Moore via > Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 4:55 PM > To: 'Victoria' ; scgenweb@rootsweb.com > Cc: 'Jeff Kemp' > Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > > That website was close to 200 pages with my name and contact information on > every single page. Not once did they let me know that they were copying and > pasting everything on that site to Jeff's. What this means to me is that > Jeff had 200 opportunities to make a decision to contact me but he chose to > take the website instead. I don't have anything to reconsider. I can't > believe that this has happened but I can tell you for sure that it won't > happen to me again! > > Janet Moore > > -----Original Message----- > From: Victoria [mailto:vproc@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:13 PM > To: Janet Moore; scgenweb@rootsweb.com > Cc: Denise Wells; Jeff Kemp > Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > > Dear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional > mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort > of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked > departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on > our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great > CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a > moment and reconsider if all is set right. > > Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, > maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't > subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response > via this list requesting to keep her county. > > Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a > few days to reconsider? > > Sincerely, > > Victoria Proctor > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Janet Moore via >> Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM >> To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb >> >> I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I >> looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I >> put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! >> I am done with all of this!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Janet Moore via >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM >> To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb >> >> As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM >> To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' >> Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb >> >> I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep >> my county. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Denise Wells via >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM >> To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Janet and Victoria stand your ground and take up for yourselves and don't get pushed around , Jeff stick your head in the sand and quit trying to make a name for your self. Bill Rogers Family Roots from Dillon and Marion County -----Original Message----- From: Janet Moore via Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 4:55 PM To: 'Victoria' ; scgenweb@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Jeff Kemp' Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb That website was close to 200 pages with my name and contact information on every single page. Not once did they let me know that they were copying and pasting everything on that site to Jeff's. What this means to me is that Jeff had 200 opportunities to make a decision to contact me but he chose to take the website instead. I don't have anything to reconsider. I can't believe that this has happened but I can tell you for sure that it won't happen to me again! Janet Moore -----Original Message----- From: Victoria [mailto:vproc@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:13 PM To: Janet Moore; scgenweb@rootsweb.com Cc: Denise Wells; Jeff Kemp Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb Dear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a moment and reconsider if all is set right. Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response via this list requesting to keep her county. Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a few days to reconsider? Sincerely, Victoria Proctor -----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore via >Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM >To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I >looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I >put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! >I am done with all of this!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Janet Moore via >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM >To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM >To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' >Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > >I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep >my county. > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Denise Wells via >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM >To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, Jeff, like you and I is human and subject to making errors, as WE ALL are. I seriously doubt it was a deliberate attempt to wrest your site from you. Also since he, like me was NOT a recipient of this lists posts, so in all likelihood he had no way of knowing you had posted on this list. Also Denise also is subject to making errors like all other humans and could have overlooked a post on the list or forgotten to add you to her list. They have appologized and agreed to link your site back up. I have worked with Denise and Jeff for years and this is definately NOT something either would do deliberately. So in the best interest of SCGenWeb, won't you please reconsider your decision or at least thik about it for a day or two? Most hastily made decisions I have made in the heat of things, I have usually regretted the next day. So please think about it for 24 or 48 hours before making your decision? Laverne Tornow Greenwood, Laurens and Newberry Counties On 12/8/2014 4:55 PM, Janet Moore via wrote: > That website was close to 200 pages with my name and contact information on every single page. Not once did they let me know that they were copying and pasting everything on that site to Jeff's. What this means to me is that Jeff had 200 opportunities to make a decision to contact me but he chose to take the website instead. I don't have anything to reconsider. I can't believe that this has happened but I can tell you for sure that it won't happen to me again! > > Janet Moore > > -----Original Message----- > From: Victoria [mailto:vproc@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:13 PM > To: Janet Moore; scgenweb@rootsweb.com > Cc: Denise Wells; Jeff Kemp > Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > > Dear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a moment and reconsider if all is set right. > > Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response via this list requesting to keep her county. > > Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a few days to reconsider? > > Sincerely, > > Victoria Proctor > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Janet Moore via >> Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM >> To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb >> >> I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I >> looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I >> put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! >> I am done with all of this!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Janet Moore via >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM >> To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb >> >> As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM >> To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' >> Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb >> >> I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep >> my county. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Denise Wells via >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM >> To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That website was close to 200 pages with my name and contact information on every single page. Not once did they let me know that they were copying and pasting everything on that site to Jeff's. What this means to me is that Jeff had 200 opportunities to make a decision to contact me but he chose to take the website instead. I don't have anything to reconsider. I can't believe that this has happened but I can tell you for sure that it won't happen to me again! Janet Moore -----Original Message----- From: Victoria [mailto:vproc@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 3:13 PM To: Janet Moore; scgenweb@rootsweb.com Cc: Denise Wells; Jeff Kemp Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb Dear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a moment and reconsider if all is set right. Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response via this list requesting to keep her county. Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a few days to reconsider? Sincerely, Victoria Proctor -----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore via >Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM >To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I >looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I >put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! >I am done with all of this!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Janet Moore via >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM >To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM >To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' >Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > >I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep >my county. > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Denise Wells via >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM >To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb

Dear Janet - I suspect/hope the copying of your site was an unintentional mistake that Jeff can set right. While some states are known to do this sort of thing, it's not been the custom to do so in SCGenWeb. I've always asked departing CC's what may be passed on, what may not. Not everything we put on our sites is ours to "give" and it can be complicated. You've been a great CC for Spartanburg for a very long time now! I sincerely hope you can take a moment and reconsider if all is set right. Denise - bless your heart, sounds so unlike you; not enough rest or coffee, maybe? It can surely happen with the load you're carrying. Although I wasn't subscribed to this list until after a day or so, I received Janet's response via this list requesting to keep her county. Jeff - would you kindly relink Janet's site for Spartanburg and give her a few days to reconsider? Sincerely, Victoria Proctor -----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore via >Sent: Dec 8, 2014 8:52 AM >To: 'Janet Moore' , scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I looked >at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I put in for all >those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! I am done with all >of this!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Janet Moore via >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM >To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > >As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM >To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' >Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > >I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my >county. > >-----Original Message----- >From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Denise Wells via >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM >To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb

Janet We were under the impression that your site was abandoned. I most certainly would never have taken your site and spent a week redoing the entire site if that was not the case. We would love for you to continue as CC, if you do wish. I will re- link your site as so as I receive your reply. Thanks Jeff Kemp SCGenWeb ASC > On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Janet Moore via <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I looked > at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I put in for all > those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! I am done with all > of this!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Janet Moore via > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM > To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > > As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM > To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' > Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my > county. > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Denise Wells via > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM > To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > I am in communication with Rootsweb and we are working to determine what the > full situation is with Victoria Proctor and all of the counties. In my > capacity as National Coordinator, I am stepping back into this and will be > the acting SC until everything gets straightened out. Rootsweb is more > than willing to work with me, just as they have with me on MNGenWeb. > > Rootsweb is attempting to contact Victoria and will keep me apprised of > their results. We have been in touch a couple of times today, and we have > to address this situation in the right way. > > It doesn't appear that SCGenWeb has enough CCs to call for Victoria's > removal at this point in time and I am the only person that Rootsweb will > turn over the sites to. > > If Victoria does not appear and take care of SCGenWeb appropriately, it will > take me moving this forward so that all that do want to retain their > counties can get the assistance that they need. > > We are now in the process of putting together a new temporary state page > that will go online as soon as it is feasible, especially if Victoria > decides to remove the current state page. > > If you are a CC in SC and would like to retain your county, please let me > know. My goal is to keep as many CCs with their counties as possible. I do > know that several CCs have resigned or just disappeared. I will keep you > apprised as we move forward in getting SCGenWeb back into the swing and get > it moving forward again. I've been working with MNGenWeb and it is moving > forward nicely given the sad shape it was in. I can do the same thing for > SCGenWeb and get new CCs moving into SC so it will grow and make visits more > enjoyable for researchers. > > Once that is done and in place, the state can have a proper election and > hopefully have at a minimum 2-3 people from whom to choose their new SC. > > Thanks for your patience as we move through this process. > > Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am at work during the day and cannot handle this issue at the moment. If you are interested in working this out, let me know. Thank you. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly) On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Janet Moore via <scgenweb@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I looked > at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I put in for > all > those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! I am done with all > of this!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Janet Moore via > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM > To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb > > As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM > To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' > Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my > county. > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Denise Wells via > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM > To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb > > I am in communication with Rootsweb and we are working to determine what > the > full situation is with Victoria Proctor and all of the counties. In my > capacity as National Coordinator, I am stepping back into this and will be > the acting SC until everything gets straightened out. Rootsweb is more > than willing to work with me, just as they have with me on MNGenWeb. > > Rootsweb is attempting to contact Victoria and will keep me apprised of > their results. We have been in touch a couple of times today, and we have > to address this situation in the right way. > > It doesn't appear that SCGenWeb has enough CCs to call for Victoria's > removal at this point in time and I am the only person that Rootsweb will > turn over the sites to. > > If Victoria does not appear and take care of SCGenWeb appropriately, it > will > take me moving this forward so that all that do want to retain their > counties can get the assistance that they need. > > We are now in the process of putting together a new temporary state page > that will go online as soon as it is feasible, especially if Victoria > decides to remove the current state page. > > If you are a CC in SC and would like to retain your county, please let me > know. My goal is to keep as many CCs with their counties as possible. I do > know that several CCs have resigned or just disappeared. I will keep you > apprised as we move forward in getting SCGenWeb back into the swing and get > it moving forward again. I've been working with MNGenWeb and it is moving > forward nicely given the sad shape it was in. I can do the same thing for > SCGenWeb and get new CCs moving into SC so it will grow and make visits > more > enjoyable for researchers. > > Once that is done and in place, the state can have a proper election and > hopefully have at a minimum 2-3 people from whom to choose their new SC. > > Thanks for your patience as we move through this process. > > Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! I am done with all of this!!! -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Moore via Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. -----Original Message----- From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my county. -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Wells via Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am in communication with Rootsweb and we are working to determine what the full situation is with Victoria Proctor and all of the counties. In my capacity as National Coordinator, I am stepping back into this and will be the acting SC until everything gets straightened out. Rootsweb is more than willing to work with me, just as they have with me on MNGenWeb. Rootsweb is attempting to contact Victoria and will keep me apprised of their results. We have been in touch a couple of times today, and we have to address this situation in the right way. It doesn't appear that SCGenWeb has enough CCs to call for Victoria's removal at this point in time and I am the only person that Rootsweb will turn over the sites to. If Victoria does not appear and take care of SCGenWeb appropriately, it will take me moving this forward so that all that do want to retain their counties can get the assistance that they need. We are now in the process of putting together a new temporary state page that will go online as soon as it is feasible, especially if Victoria decides to remove the current state page. If you are a CC in SC and would like to retain your county, please let me know. My goal is to keep as many CCs with their counties as possible. I do know that several CCs have resigned or just disappeared. I will keep you apprised as we move forward in getting SCGenWeb back into the swing and get it moving forward again. I've been working with MNGenWeb and it is moving forward nicely given the sad shape it was in. I can do the same thing for SCGenWeb and get new CCs moving into SC so it will grow and make visits more enjoyable for researchers. Once that is done and in place, the state can have a proper election and hopefully have at a minimum 2-3 people from whom to choose their new SC. Thanks for your patience as we move through this process. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a problem. We all make mistakes and I believe that Jeff needs to relink Spartanburg county back to Janet Moore's site. She has been responsive in the past as well. If you look at the October 2014 mailing list responses, Janet Moore did respond there as being active. I am sure that Denise and Jeff just missed this and would never just take over a county "just because." So, if Jeff could relink to Janet's webpage and remove his, that would solve the problem. Thank you very much. Carolyn Golowka The SCGenWeb - Edgefield County Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Moore via Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 5:52 AM To: 'Janet Moore'; scgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb I forwarded my response with my request to keep my county but then I looked at the site that Jeff Kemp created using the hard work that I put in for all those years and I just want to tell you that I quit!!!! I am done with all of this!!! -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Moore via Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:45 AM To: scgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] FW: SCGenWeb As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. -----Original Message----- From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my county. -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Wells via Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am in communication with Rootsweb and we are working to determine what the full situation is with Victoria Proctor and all of the counties. In my capacity as National Coordinator, I am stepping back into this and will be the acting SC until everything gets straightened out. Rootsweb is more than willing to work with me, just as they have with me on MNGenWeb. Rootsweb is attempting to contact Victoria and will keep me apprised of their results. We have been in touch a couple of times today, and we have to address this situation in the right way. It doesn't appear that SCGenWeb has enough CCs to call for Victoria's removal at this point in time and I am the only person that Rootsweb will turn over the sites to. If Victoria does not appear and take care of SCGenWeb appropriately, it will take me moving this forward so that all that do want to retain their counties can get the assistance that they need. We are now in the process of putting together a new temporary state page that will go online as soon as it is feasible, especially if Victoria decides to remove the current state page. If you are a CC in SC and would like to retain your county, please let me know. My goal is to keep as many CCs with their counties as possible. I do know that several CCs have resigned or just disappeared. I will keep you apprised as we move forward in getting SCGenWeb back into the swing and get it moving forward again. I've been working with MNGenWeb and it is moving forward nicely given the sad shape it was in. I can do the same thing for SCGenWeb and get new CCs moving into SC so it will grow and make visits more enjoyable for researchers. Once that is done and in place, the state can have a proper election and hopefully have at a minimum 2-3 people from whom to choose their new SC. Thanks for your patience as we move through this process. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As requested, I am forwarding my response from October 29, 2014. -----Original Message----- From: Janet Moore [mailto:janetmoore@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:42 AM To: 'Denise Wells'; 'scgenweb@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am Janet Moore, host of Spartanburg County and I would like to keep my county. -----Original Message----- From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Wells via Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:37 AM To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb I am in communication with Rootsweb and we are working to determine what the full situation is with Victoria Proctor and all of the counties. In my capacity as National Coordinator, I am stepping back into this and will be the acting SC until everything gets straightened out. Rootsweb is more than willing to work with me, just as they have with me on MNGenWeb. Rootsweb is attempting to contact Victoria and will keep me apprised of their results. We have been in touch a couple of times today, and we have to address this situation in the right way. It doesn't appear that SCGenWeb has enough CCs to call for Victoria's removal at this point in time and I am the only person that Rootsweb will turn over the sites to. If Victoria does not appear and take care of SCGenWeb appropriately, it will take me moving this forward so that all that do want to retain their counties can get the assistance that they need. We are now in the process of putting together a new temporary state page that will go online as soon as it is feasible, especially if Victoria decides to remove the current state page. If you are a CC in SC and would like to retain your county, please let me know. My goal is to keep as many CCs with their counties as possible. I do know that several CCs have resigned or just disappeared. I will keep you apprised as we move forward in getting SCGenWeb back into the swing and get it moving forward again. I've been working with MNGenWeb and it is moving forward nicely given the sad shape it was in. I can do the same thing for SCGenWeb and get new CCs moving into SC so it will grow and make visits more enjoyable for researchers. Once that is done and in place, the state can have a proper election and hopefully have at a minimum 2-3 people from whom to choose their new SC. Thanks for your patience as we move through this process. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. Denise Wells National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project www.usgenweb.org USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml (Agenda to be updated shortly) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please forward to me your response to my inquiry about the county. I'm not in the habit of replacing CCs who respond to me. Thanks. Denise Wells > On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:14 AM, "Janet Moore" <janetmoore@prodigy.net> wrote: > > Correction please! The Spartanburg County url is: http://www.spartasc.com/. > I have communicated with everyone that I wanted to keep Spartanburg County > and the url has not changed. I pay for the domain name and hosting myself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Denise Wells via > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 10:45 AM > To: SCGENWEB@rootsweb.com > Cc: <genealogy@cfl.rr.com>; Jeff Kemp; Laverne Tornow > Subject: [SCGENWEB] SCGenWeb sites and CCs > > I am very excited to make the following announcements for SCGenWeb! > > As you may or may not be aware, your previous State Coordinator, Victoria > Proctor, has had some difficulties and unable to function regularly as your > SC. I know that she has been with your state for a very long time and it is > so unfortunate that she has had to curtail many of her duties as the SC for > South Carolina. We pray for her quick recovery and abilities to stay with > South Carolina as the CC for three of the counties. Victoria has requested > to retain the counties of: Dillon, Marion and Marlboro. We are glad she is > staying with South Carolina as she has done some very amazing things through > the years and I know that all of you are grateful for all she has > accomplished over this time period. > > At the present time, I am the Acting State Coordinator. Also joining us is > a familiar face in USGenWeb and who has also acted for several years as the > National Webmaster for USGenWeb, Jeff Kemp. Jeff has adopted three South > Carolina counties and does an absolutely amazing job on everything he > tackles. We are very fortunate that he has an immense interest in South > Carolina. He will also act as your new Assistant State Coordinator. > > So, now, please take a few minutes to view your new state page for > SCGenWeb: www.scgenweb.org It is a great look and easy to navigate. > If you have items you would like to donate to the state page, please just > send them to Jeff. > > > CAROLYN: I would appreciate if you would add me as a co-admin for the SC > mail list. Please also note the email addresses listed as CCs to this > email. If those have not yet been added to the mail list subscribers, > please add them. > > > Now that the state is moving forward, please note the following changes that > you should be making to your counties as quickly as possible. We will be > reviewing all active county sites to be sure that these changes have been > made to continue the progress for SC: > > 1. Your new state page is now located at: www.scgenweb.org. The previous > state site has been replaced at the National Site. > > 2. All sites in SCGenWeb need to change your logo to the what is found > at: http://www.scgenweb.org/sc_logos.html. That logo will need to be > linked to the new SCGenWeb site at: http://www.scgenweb.org. Please remove > all other SC logos at this time. > > 3. All sites in the SCGenWeb need to update your copyright year to at least > 2014, and please add a "Last Updated" date to your pages. This is very > important since over the years the Advisory Board has received many > complaints about the sites being terribly outdated, no one responding to > email inquiries about counties, etc. We want to turn all of that around and > we are off to a good start. > > 4. The following counties have had URL changes and, if your county has a > link to one of them, please update that link as follows: > > ----- Laurens County - now located at: > http://www.lhtornow.com/scgw/laurens/ > ----- Spartanburg County - now located at: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~scsusgw/ > ----- SCGenWeb State website - now located at: http://www.scgenweb.org/ > > 5. Other counties have been adopted but not yet reflect the new pages: > Cherokee (new site online), Greenville (new site online), Newberry (being > revised), Calhoun (work in progress), and Orangeburg (work in progress). > > 6. Emails were sent out to all prior CCs for counties in the state. > Almost all of them were not responded to or their emails bounced. Counties > that have not been updated in years are now available for adoption. Some > counties may have pending adoptions in progress as well. Should you know > someone who is interested in adopting a county in SCGenWeb, we are now > developing a new application form that will be required of any new CC. > This will help have people adopt counties in which they have connections > instead of just adopting a county because someone will think that's cool to > have that county. SOME exceptions may be made, but that will be fairly > unlikely. I find that people who adopt a county because they have a > connection to it in some way makes that person more interested in that > location. > > Personally, I hope you all realize that SCGenWeb can become an absolutely > gorgeous representation of work in the USGenWeb. The state has such rich > history and interesting events and I truly want it to reflect the love and > caring that each of you have for your counties. I have seen some very > remarkable work in this state and truly wish for it to continue. > > One of my commitments when running for National Coordinator was to market > this wonderful Project out in the world to get more people interested in > using OUR project for their research, or to join to work on a new county or > interest in USGenWeb. Unfortunately, I cannot market something like I would > like to unless and until this Projects gets a thorough upgrade. We had to > do the same thing in MNGenWeb, and it is coming along nicely. That state > has 87 counties and half of them were not being attended to, almost the same > thing as here in SCGenWeb. I am truly excited for what is possible for both > of your states, as well as the entire Project. But it needs some more spit > polish, so-to-speak, and that is what it is getting, little by little. > Please continue your great work with your current counties. I'm excitedly > looking forward to our updated SCGenWeb. > > Any and all questions can be directed to me ncusgenweb@gmail.com or to Jeff > at msgwsc@gmail.com or at kemp@netnitco.com unless he provides us with a new > email for South Carolina. > > Also, as stated above, please note that we will be visiting county sites > soon to check on the changes requested above. We hope you will enjoy > working in the new SCGenWeb. Thanks so much. > > > Denise Wells > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > www.usgenweb.org > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > (Agenda to be updated shortly) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >