For those of you who have asked for look ups in Fairfield County Marriages, I think I need to explain that the book is NOT a list of marriage records or dates of marriages. It is marriages IMPLIED in Probate Records. Excerpts from the introduction of the book by Barbara R. Langdon states: "Please note that this book contains evidence of marriages; it is not a collection of marriage records. Marriages were not recorded in South Carolina until the twentieth century. Proof or verication is left to the user of this book. ....the man or woman is followed by the spouse, the apartment and file numbers of the estate packet in which the reference is found, microfilm frame numbers and the year one or both were living...." *NS=new series ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy Hall Calk [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Peggy,Do you find any ref. to Carlile or Carlisle please.Thanks Fred. Peggy Calk wrote: > For those of you who have asked for look ups in Fairfield County Marriages, > I think I need to explain that the book is not a list of marriage records or > dates of marriages. It is marriages IMPLIED in Probate Records. An excerpt > from the introduction of the book by Barbara R. Langdon states: > > "Please note that this book contains evidence of marriages; it is not a > collection of marriage records. Marriages were not recorded in South > Carolina until the twentieth century. Proof or verification is left to the > user of this book." > > ...."the man or woman is followed by the spouse, the apartment and file > numbers of the estate packet in which the reference is found, microfilm > frame numbers and the year one or both were living".... > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Peggy Hall Calk > [email protected] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

. Link into the site: http://cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/9811/06/tod.10.html/ This is the CNN site, the story is on the proposed charges... Debbie Not a Hoax!

Morning everyone! I got up today just in time to greet a box full of email messages responding to my resignation from ALHN. Many have written of their concern that I have resigned from ALHN, many said they have also heard on the news, CNN, that the phone companies are trying to get this bill passed so they can implement their charges for internet access, many have stated, "If you leave, then I will too". I just want to say, that I am not leaving genealogy, only the history project that is called ALHN. All of the counties and projects in my signature, I am still a part of, and plan to continue to contribute what I can to them. Burke, Lincoln, Rutherford, NC Revolutionary War, and of course NCGenWeb. It was only history I gave up. And ALHN did not have anything to do with that decision. It is an excellent project and will be a great asset to your study of genealogy. You can understand and know so much more abut your ancestors when you know what the times were like for them. It just so happened that all of you were on my mail list and I felt that we all needed to know just what the phone company was trying to do [again] It was tried 2 years ago too. Yesterday, when I saw that the reply from Joel, was sent to everyone on my private email addresses and not just to the me privately or the list he got it from, I simply could not stand there and let him get away with it..I felt slapped in the face by him, again. I apologize for the fact you all were involved and just wanted you to know that genealogy has not lost me because of this incident with Joel. Only the project that Joel and I were a part of together, the history project All of the projects named in my signature, are the ones I will continue being involved with....esp the grandma part<G> Thanks for all the encouraging words! Sincerely, Debbie Fowler [email protected] Still involved with >>> CC for Burke, Lincoln, Rutherford, and Unknown NCGenWeb counties Coordinator for North Carolina Revolutionary War Project Assistant State Coordinator NCGenWeb Listowner for NCBurke, NCRuther, NCLincoln Grandma of Aaron, Brittany and Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Fowler <[email protected]> To: Dianne Wilson <[email protected]>; Bill Harless <[email protected]>; `pokey <[email protected]>; Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx <[email protected]> Cc: haroldh <[email protected]>; SCFAIRFI-L <[email protected]>; SCCHEST2-L <[email protected]>; NCRUTHER-L <[email protected]>; NCLINCOL-L <[email protected]>; jeanne <[email protected]>; Fran Murphy <[email protected]>; Floyd McFarland <[email protected]>; Cecil Lovelace <[email protected]>; alhn <[email protected]>; NCBURKE-L <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:31 PM Subject: Resignation ALHN >Hi Everyone, >I just wanted to say that I am resigning from ALHN completely. Several weeks >ago, one of my volunteers for GA was REMOVED from the ALHN list for >submitting history articles to the ALHN list. One and only ONE, person on >ALHN objected to their posting and slammed them publicly for it......There >were many others, who wrote to state they liked the articles and wanted to >see more. I asked Mary and Jeff for a new list, where these articles could >be posted. No list was forthcoming. I was later told by Mary that the new >ALHN_L list could be used for this purpose and an announcement would be made >that this would be an appropriate place for posting history articles. No >announcement was made that I have ever seen. > >Since that time. the person who was derogatory to my volunteer who was >posting history articles on the ALHN list, has continued to daily use the >ALHN list and post many of his "my 2 cents worth " opinions. My volunteer >was the only person punished, and he never responded to Joel publicly at >all. All he ever said was, he would continue to post the articles on >history...southern black history that Joel did not like. > >Today, Joel posted another......to my announcement regarding the proposal of >long distance charges on internet phone lines with..... > >"One word: > >HOAX. > > >(And an old one, too!) > >Joel GAzis-SAx > >Well, you know something, it may be a hoax, but I doubt it, because I heard >it with my own two ears on the news as well as receiving a message from >someone else. When I posted my message I included " >>[ if this is true and the phone company is >>| trying to do this.] >>| >>| If it's not true, then it won't hurt to let our representative know how >we >>| feel anyway! > >Again, Joel was only one of two people who were not grateful for my message. >Many others wrote to say "Thank-you for your message". > >I am sick and tired of one person dominating this list, even to the point >where they are allowed to send "Soft Porn" links, to the list. I don't call >that history... I call that sick. >My state of Ga is no longer online. Neither are the ALHNNC counties of >Gaston, >Lincoln, Burke, Haywood, and Rutherford, >Unsubscribe me from the ALHN list, the ALHN-L list, and the ALHNGA list. And >don't link to any of my NCGenWeb counties either! >I apologize to all my friends and fellow genealogists on my mail lists for >having to receive that persons response today, but I did not expect that he >was such a $^%$%^ that he would do a "reply to all" instead of doing it >privately. I should have known better after seeing him display his >"intelligence" over the last several months. >I thought that ALHN would be a "breath of fresh air" but Joel sure spoils >it. >Debbie Fowler >[email protected] >CC for Burke, Lincoln, Rutherford, and Unknown NCGenWeb counties >Coordinator for North Carolina Revolutionary War Project >Assistant State Coordinator NCGenWeb >Listowner for NCBurke, NCRuther, NCLincoln >Grandma of Aaron, Brittany and Daniel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx <[email protected]> >To: Debbie Fowler <[email protected]>; `pokey ><[email protected]>; Bill Harless <[email protected]>; Dianne Wilson ><[email protected]> >Cc: NCBURKE-L <[email protected]>; alhn <[email protected]>; Cecil >Lovelace <[email protected]>; Floyd McFarland ><[email protected]>; Fran Murphy <[email protected]>; >jeanne <[email protected]>; NCLINCOL-L <[email protected]>; >NCRUTHER-L <[email protected]>; SCCHEST2-L <[email protected]>; >SCFAIRFI-L <[email protected]> >Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:20 PM >Subject: Re: ALHN: Your Vote on allowing Internet phone Charges > > >>One word: >> >>HOAX. >> >> >>(And an old one, too!) >> >>Joel GAzis-SAx >>http://www.alsirat.com/index.html >>http://www.notfrisco.com/index.html >>To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth. >>Voltaire >> >> >>---------- >>| From: Debbie Fowler <[email protected]> >>| To: `pokey <[email protected]>; Bill Harless <[email protected]>; >Dianne Wilson <[email protected]> >>| Cc: NCBURKE-L <[email protected]>; alhn <[email protected]>; Cecil >Lovelace <[email protected]>; Floyd McFarland >><[email protected]>; Fran Murphy <[email protected]>; >jeanne <[email protected]>; NCLINCOL-L >><[email protected]>; NCRUTHER-L <[email protected]>; SCCHEST2-L ><[email protected]>; SCFAIRFI-L >><[email protected]> >>| Subject: ALHN: Your Vote on allowing Internet phone Charges >>| Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:27 AM >>| >>| >>| Hi Everyone, >>| I don't usually do this, forwarding a message to this many people, but >this >>| feels necessary. To find your representative, use the site address below, >>| and please email them to vote no..if we don't say no now, we may not be >able >>| to afford to stay online tomorrow,[ if this is true and the phone company >is >>| trying to do this.] >>| >>| If it's not true, then it won't hurt to let our representative know how >we >>| feel anyway! Cut em' off at the pass, so to speak. I apologize if you get >>| more than one copy of this message. Just hit delete! >>| Sincerely, >>| Debbie Fowler >>| PS. resend your message daily to vote no, and flood your representative >with >>| email to get the VOTE NO message across. >>| >>| >>| start of the message I got>>> >>| The News came on yesterday and said that the Government is going to >decide >>| in two weeks whether or not to allow the Phone Companies to charge a fee >to >>| access the internet equivalent to a long distance call. Please contact >your >>| representatives and ask them not to allow this. Can you imagine the cost >to >>| those of us who are middle income. I would have to give up a lot of >>| internet time if not all. >>| >>>end >>| >>| The address is >>| http://www.house.gov/writerep/ >>| >>| >>| >>| >

Could somebody tell me what ALHN is ??? Linda

Molly Thank you! I think that information about these families will really help with research in Fairfield Co. These names seem to infer that they lived in both Midway, Liberty Co and Winnsboro, Fairfield Co., perhaps moving when their families increased in size to take advantage of new lands opening up! Would really like to know the information in the epitaph of Capt Thomas Baker buried at Midway Cemetery. John Quarterman has written a book about his family, but I do not know if he included any information about the Bacons and Winns. I have traced Jacob Brown's father, Major Jacob Brown to Greene Co, TN. He purchased thousands of acres of land from the Cherokees and sold it to settlers from NC, SC, VA and GA. His grave is a historical site in Greene Co, TN. Thanks again! Elizabeth

Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say that I am resigning from ALHN completely. Several weeks ago, one of my volunteers for GA was REMOVED from the ALHN list for submitting history articles to the ALHN list. One and only ONE, person on ALHN objected to their posting and slammed them publicly for it......There were many others, who wrote to state they liked the articles and wanted to see more. I asked Mary and Jeff for a new list, where these articles could be posted. No list was forthcoming. I was later told by Mary that the new ALHN_L list could be used for this purpose and an announcement would be made that this would be an appropriate place for posting history articles. No announcement was made that I have ever seen. Since that time. the person who was derogatory to my volunteer who was posting history articles on the ALHN list, has continued to daily use the ALHN list and post many of his "my 2 cents worth " opinions. My volunteer was the only person punished, and he never responded to Joel publicly at all. All he ever said was, he would continue to post the articles on history...southern black history that Joel did not like. Today, Joel posted another......to my announcement regarding the proposal of long distance charges on internet phone lines with..... "One word: HOAX. (And an old one, too!) Joel GAzis-SAx Well, you know something, it may be a hoax, but I doubt it, because I heard it with my own two ears on the news as well as receiving a message from someone else. When I posted my message I included " >[ if this is true and the phone company is >| trying to do this.] >| >| If it's not true, then it won't hurt to let our representative know how we >| feel anyway! Again, Joel was only one of two people who were not grateful for my message. Many others wrote to say "Thank-you for your message". I am sick and tired of one person dominating this list, even to the point where they are allowed to send "Soft Porn" links, to the list. I don't call that history... I call that sick. My state of Ga is no longer online. Neither are the ALHNNC counties of Gaston, Lincoln, Burke, Haywood, and Rutherford, Unsubscribe me from the ALHN list, the ALHN-L list, and the ALHNGA list. And don't link to any of my NCGenWeb counties either! I apologize to all my friends and fellow genealogists on my mail lists for having to receive that persons response today, but I did not expect that he was such a $^%$%^ that he would do a "reply to all" instead of doing it privately. I should have known better after seeing him display his "intelligence" over the last several months. I thought that ALHN would be a "breath of fresh air" but Joel sure spoils it. Debbie Fowler [email protected] CC for Burke, Lincoln, Rutherford, and Unknown NCGenWeb counties Coordinator for North Carolina Revolutionary War Project Assistant State Coordinator NCGenWeb Listowner for NCBurke, NCRuther, NCLincoln Grandma of Aaron, Brittany and Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx <[email protected]> To: Debbie Fowler <[email protected]>; `pokey <[email protected]>; Bill Harless <[email protected]>; Dianne Wilson <[email protected]> Cc: NCBURKE-L <[email protected]>; alhn <[email protected]>; Cecil Lovelace <[email protected]>; Floyd McFarland <[email protected]>; Fran Murphy <[email protected]>; jeanne <[email protected]>; NCLINCOL-L <[email protected]>; NCRUTHER-L <[email protected]>; SCCHEST2-L <[email protected]>; SCFAIRFI-L <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:20 PM Subject: Re: ALHN: Your Vote on allowing Internet phone Charges >One word: > >HOAX. > > >(And an old one, too!) > >Joel GAzis-SAx >http://www.alsirat.com/index.html >http://www.notfrisco.com/index.html >To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth. >Voltaire > > >---------- >| From: Debbie Fowler <[email protected]> >| To: `pokey <[email protected]>; Bill Harless <[email protected]>; Dianne Wilson <[email protected]> >| Cc: NCBURKE-L <[email protected]>; alhn <[email protected]>; Cecil Lovelace <[email protected]>; Floyd McFarland ><[email protected]>; Fran Murphy <[email protected]>; jeanne <[email protected]>; NCLINCOL-L ><[email protected]>; NCRUTHER-L <[email protected]>; SCCHEST2-L <[email protected]>; SCFAIRFI-L ><[email protected]> >| Subject: ALHN: Your Vote on allowing Internet phone Charges >| Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:27 AM >| >| >| Hi Everyone, >| I don't usually do this, forwarding a message to this many people, but this >| feels necessary. To find your representative, use the site address below, >| and please email them to vote no..if we don't say no now, we may not be able >| to afford to stay online tomorrow,[ if this is true and the phone company is >| trying to do this.] >| >| If it's not true, then it won't hurt to let our representative know how we >| feel anyway! Cut em' off at the pass, so to speak. I apologize if you get >| more than one copy of this message. Just hit delete! >| Sincerely, >| Debbie Fowler >| PS. resend your message daily to vote no, and flood your representative with >| email to get the VOTE NO message across. >| >| >| start of the message I got>>> >| The News came on yesterday and said that the Government is going to decide >| in two weeks whether or not to allow the Phone Companies to charge a fee to >| access the internet equivalent to a long distance call. Please contact your >| representatives and ask them not to allow this. Can you imagine the cost to >| those of us who are middle income. I would have to give up a lot of >| internet time if not all. >| >>>end >| >| The address is >| http://www.house.gov/writerep/ >| >| >| >|

Hi Everyone, I don't usually do this, forwarding a message to this many people, but this feels necessary. To find your representative, use the site address below, and please email them to vote no..if we don't say no now, we may not be able to afford to stay online tomorrow,[ if this is true and the phone company is trying to do this.] If it's not true, then it won't hurt to let our representative know how we feel anyway! Cut em' off at the pass, so to speak. I apologize if you get more than one copy of this message. Just hit delete! Sincerely, Debbie Fowler PS. resend your message daily to vote no, and flood your representative with email to get the VOTE NO message across. start of the message I got>>> The News came on yesterday and said that the Government is going to decide in two weeks whether or not to allow the Phone Companies to charge a fee to access the internet equivalent to a long distance call. Please contact your representatives and ask them not to allow this. Can you imagine the cost to those of us who are middle income. I would have to give up a lot of internet time if not all. >>>end The address is http://www.house.gov/writerep/

For those of you who have asked for look ups in Fairfield County Marriages, I think I need to explain that the book is not a list of marriage records or dates of marriages. It is marriages IMPLIED in Probate Records. An excerpt from the introduction of the book by Barbara R. Langdon states: "Please note that this book contains evidence of marriages; it is not a collection of marriage records. Marriages were not recorded in South Carolina until the twentieth century. Proof or verification is left to the user of this book." ...."the man or woman is followed by the spouse, the apartment and file numbers of the estate packet in which the reference is found, microfilm frame numbers and the year one or both were living".... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy Hall Calk [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Molly Thank you for the "look-ups" in "Fairfield Co Cemeteries". Thomas died in 1789 in a duel with Jacob Brown. Sarah, his wife died in 1782. He may be buried in Midway Cemetery in Liberty Co, GA. There is a Capt Thomas Baker buried there. Also, I was in error about the place of marriage. The marriage of a Thomas Baker and Sarah Bacon in 1778 occurred in Liberty Co, GA., not in SC. Appreciate your help. Elizabeth

That address has changed. It is now: 132 Langdon Rd. Aiken, SC 29805 I just talked to Shirley [the other Langdon :-)], and she said the Fairfield book is out of print. -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Calk <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [SCFAIRFI-L] Is Fairfield Marriage Book available? >I have this book and will do lookups. On the inside cover it says copies of >this book may be order from: > >LANGDON & LANGDON >Genealogical Research >P.O. Box 633 >Columbia, S.C. 29202 >(803) 649-6679 > >Price: $20.00 plus $1.50 p/h >Copyright 1986 Barbara Ruth Langdon >ISBN 0-938741-03-9 > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 3:29 PM >Subject: Re: [SCFAIRFI-L] Is Fairfield Marriage Book available? > > >>In a message dated 98-11-06 11:05:46 EST, [email protected] writes: >> >><< Can someone pls. tell me if the book: >> >> "Fairfield County Marriages, 1775-1879" by Barbara R. Langdon is still >> available and if so, where? >> >> Thank you for any help. >> >> Glenna >> >> >>Please post replies regarding the above message to the list. I'd like to >know >>about this book too. >> >>Many thanks. >> >>Nadine Grubbs Smith >> >> >> >> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Peggy Hall Calk >[email protected] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> >

Could you do a look up on the marriage of Thomas Crosby born 11-15-1802 in Chester or Fairfield Co. and Charlotte Parks born 3-22-1805. Their first child was born in 1822, so they were probably married before then. I would love to know who the parents of Charlotte Parks were. Thank you so much. Susan Johanson [email protected] Susan C. Johanson Springfield, VA http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ ....I prefer digging in the past to digging in the yard....

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I have this book and will do lookups. On the inside cover it says copies of this book may be order from: LANGDON & LANGDON Genealogical Research P.O. Box 633 Columbia, S.C. 29202 (803) 649-6679 Price: $20.00 plus $1.50 p/h Copyright 1986 Barbara Ruth Langdon ISBN 0-938741-03-9 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [SCFAIRFI-L] Is Fairfield Marriage Book available? >In a message dated 98-11-06 11:05:46 EST, [email protected] writes: > ><< Can someone pls. tell me if the book: > > "Fairfield County Marriages, 1775-1879" by Barbara R. Langdon is still > available and if so, where? > > Thank you for any help. > > Glenna >> > >Please post replies regarding the above message to the list. I'd like to know >about this book too. > >Many thanks. > >Nadine Grubbs Smith > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy Hall Calk [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >

In a message dated 11/7/98 5:26:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCFAIRFI-D- [email protected] writes: > In a message dated 98-11-06 11:05:46 EST, [email protected] writes: > > << Can someone pls. tell me if the book: > > "Fairfield County Marriages, 1775-1879" by Barbara R. Langdon is still > available and if so, where? > > Thank you for any help. > > Glenna >> OH, Yes, There is a copy in the North Carolina State Archives in Raleigh, NC. I have just about worn the book out looking up information when my mother and I go over to do research on our family. Melinda

>From some researchers, I was told that Thomas GOODRUM (Thomas Goodrum, d. 7 Apr 1836, ca. 84 yrs of age. Revolutionary War Soldier served from Orangeburg, SC., died in Maury Co., TN) was married to Agnes AGNEW GLADDEN, the widow of William GLADDEN, and had children, 1. William Gladden 2. Martha Gladden who married John HALL. Their son was Mansel Hall. By Thomas GOODRUM, she had the following: 1. Sebra Goodrum who married William PORTER 2. Mildren Goodrum who married Richard TIDWELL. (Richard Tidwell, 28 Nov 1774 - 20 Jun 1863 in Maury Co., TN) I am a descendant of Sebra GOODRUM and WILLIAM PORTER. I asked the question, if Sebra's mother had been Agnes AGNEW GLADDEN, why were none of her descendants named AGNES, since other family names have often repeated themselves in later generations. One answer I got was the following: Good question. That's why I asked if Thomas Goodrum might not have married Elizabeth Hollis Gladden instead of Agnes Agnew Gladden. I don't know where the information came from in the first place and have been trying very hard to find some verification. According to some abstracts I've seen, Samuel Gladden was married to an Agnes, but his will was 1799, after Sebra Goodrum was born. That's the only Agnes Gladden I've found, so far. The only Agnes Agnew I found was married to James Dunn. I realize this does not mean there was not another Agnes Agnew, but I do not find her in the Fairfield county or Abbeville county records I have. Does anyone have any information on any members of this family? [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/heartland/ridge/3462/

Would the person who posted the inquiry on Capt. Thomas Baker who died in 1789 and married to Sarah please contact me. I have some information that might be helpful. They are my 4th great grandparents and I am also working on him. [email protected]

In a message dated 98-11-06 11:05:46 EST, [email protected] writes: << Can someone pls. tell me if the book: "Fairfield County Marriages, 1775-1879" by Barbara R. Langdon is still available and if so, where? Thank you for any help. Glenna >> Please post replies regarding the above message to the list. I'd like to know about this book too. Many thanks. Nadine Grubbs Smith

Can someone pls. tell me if the book: "Fairfield County Marriages, 1775-1879" by Barbara R. Langdon is still available and if so, where? Thank you for any help. Glenna

I have recently come across some data that suggests the CROSKEYS family might have a connection with the McCANTS family of Fairfield County. Is anyone doing a study of the Croskeys? I have a BIG mystery that you might be able to help me solve. Thanks in advance, Glenna