A while back, Beth Hemingway posted the obit of Cleo Hill, Wife of John Oliver HILL and also the following on her father, W. S. RAMSEY The following obit was posted to the [email protected] by Beth Hemmingway from the Augusta Chronicle Archives: Augusta Chronicle, 5-27-1925, page 5A W.S. Ramsey Dies at Columbia, SC - Was Father of Mrs J.O. Hill of Augusta The friends of Mrs J.O. Hill will be sorry to hear of the sudden death of her father, W.S. Ramsey, which occurred Monday night at Columbia. Mr. Ramsey is survived by two children, Mrs J.O. Hill of Augusta; Albert J Ramsey, of Monetta, SC, also a brother, Robert Ramsey, of Columbia, and a sister, Mrs Katherine Baker, of Charleston, SC. Mr. Ramsey will be interred in the family burying ground at Monetta, SC, today. I am a Hill researcher of the Edgefield Co, SC Hills, some of whom moved to the Augusta Area. I got curious and started checking out the RAMSEY family in my census info. and some books I have. Here is what I found. Hope it helps someone. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected] Descendants of Andrew Ramsey Compiled by Billie Jones, August 24, 2004 Generation No. 1 1. ANDREW1 RAMSEY1 was born Abt. 1820 in Scotland1. He married SARAH UNKNOWN2. She was born Abt. 1825 in SC2. Notes for ANDREW RAMSEY: CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: SC COUNTY: Edgefield DIVISION: Edgefield REEL NO: M432-852 PAGE NO: 7B, hh#94 REFERENCE: July 17, 1850, John C. Allen Asst Marshal. [transcribed by Martha Jacobson] Andrew Ramsey 30 M Carriage Maker 500 Scotland Sarah A. Ramsey 25 F SC James Ramsey 8 M attended school SC Isabella Ramsey 5 F SC Andrew Ramsey 2 M SC CENSUS: 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Edgefield Court House, p. 114, Aug. 3, 1860, hh#866/851 Andrew Ramsey 39 M Postmaster Scotland Sarah Ramsey 35 F SC James Ramsey 16 M SC Isabella Ramsey 15 M SC Andrew Ramsey 12 F SC Robert Ramsey 7 M SC William Ramsey 1 M SC CENSUS: 1870 Edgefield Co, SC, hh#38 [electronic version, no page numbers given] Andrew Ramsay 50 M W Scotland Sarah Ramsay 40 F W SC Andrew Ramsay 23 M W SC Robert Ramsay 18 M W SC Willy Ramsay 9 M W SC Kitty Ramsey 7 F W SC Children of ANDREW RAMSEY and SARAH UNKNOWN are: i. JAMES2 RAMSEY3, b. Abt. 18443. Notes for JAMES RAMSEY: Living with parents, Edgefield Dist, SC 1850 - 1860 - see father's notes. ii. ISABELLA RAMSEY3, b. Abt. 18453. Notes for ISABELLA RAMSEY: Living with parents, Edgefield Dist, SC 1850 - 1860 - see father's notes. iii. ANDREW RAMSEY3, b. Abt. 18483. Notes for ANDREW RAMSEY: Living with parents, Edgefield Dist, SC 1850 - 1870 - see father's notes. iv. ROBERT RAMSEY3, b. Abt. 18533. Notes for ROBERT RAMSEY: Living with parents, Edgefield Dist, SC 1860 - 1870 - see father's notes. He is mentioned as a brother of W. S. Ramsey in his 5-27-1925 obit, Augusta Chronicle, page 5A. v. ELIZABETH RAMSEY4, b. March 26, 18565; d. November 05, 1858, Edgefield Co, SC6. vi. SARAH RAMSEY6, b. March 26, 18567; d. October 30, 1858, Edgefield Co, SC8. Notes for SARAH & ELIZABETH RAMSEY: Edgefield Death Notices & Cem. Records by Carlee McClendon gives us another child of Andrew and Sarah Ramsay as follows: "Died of Scarlet Fever on October 30, 1858, Sarah Ramsay, infant daughter of Andrew and Sarah Ramsay, aged two years, seven months, and four days. On Nov 5, 1858, of the same disease, died Elizabeth Ramsay, twin sister of little Sarah, age two years, seven months and nine days [The Edgefield Advertiser, Dec. 8, 1858] 2. vii. WILLIAM S. RAMSEY, b. Abt. 1859; d. May 25, 1925, Columbia, SC. viii. KATHERINE 'KITTY' RAMSEY9, b. Abt. 18639; m. MR. BAKER. Notes for KATHERINE 'KITTY' RAMSEY: Living with parents, Edgefield Dist, SC, 1870 - see father's notes. She is called Mrs. Katherine Baker of Charleston SC and named as a sister of W. S. Ramsey in his 5-27-1925 obit, Augusta Chronicle, page 5A. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM S.2 RAMSEY (ANDREW1)10,11 was born Abt. 185911, and died May 25, 1925 in Columbia, SC12. He married BEULAH LOTT13, daughter of JOHN LOTT and BERTHA HOLSTEIN. She was born Abt. 186713, and died Bef. September 29, 192014. Notes for WILLIAM S. RAMSEY: The following obit was posted to the [email protected] by Beth Hemmingway from the Augusta Chronicle Archives: Augusta Chronicle, 5-27-1925, page 5A W.S. Ramsey Dies at Columbia, SC - Was Father of Mrs J.O. Hill of Augusta The friends of Mrs J.O. Hill will be sorry to hear of the sudden death of her father, W.S. Ramsey, which occurred Monday night at Columbia. Mr. Ramsey is survived by two children, Mrs J.O. Hill of Augusta; Albert J Ramsey, of Monetta, SC, also a brother, Robert Ramsey, of Columbia, and a sister, Mrs Katherine Baker, of Charleston, SC. Mr. Ramsey will be interred in the family burying ground at Monetta, SC, today. I found his death certificate as follows [Microfilmed records at Camden Archives & Museum, Camden, SC] 1925 - Death Cert. #8617, Richland Co, SC William S. Ramsey Male, white, widower, occ: guard at the SC Pen. b. _____, SC age 62 father: R. F. Ramsey, SC mother: not given d. May 26, 1925, Columbia, Richland Co, SC cause: apoplexy; arteriosclerosis & high blood pressure. informant: Albert Ramsey, Monetta, SC buried: Monetta, SC UT: _. _. Dunbar, Columbia, SC Began searching census records to find W. S. Ramsey with siblings Katherine and Robert named in the obit. The only 1860 Edgefield Co., census record that works does not work with the death cert. name of father, but everything else seems to work. Further research puts him with siblings named in his obit in the 1860 - 1880 census records. [see notes of father Andrew Ramsey] Maybe the R. F. Ramsey name in the death cert. comes from the "Uncle Robert" remembered by the family?? Census evidence seems pretty stong that he was the son of Andrew [1860 & 1870 Edgefield Census records William is living with his brother Robert in 1880 Census Place: Wise, Edgefield, SC, p. 466B [Source: FHL Film 1255228 National Archives Film T9-1228] Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Robert RAMSAY Self M S W 28 SC Occ: Laborer Fa: SCOTLAND Mo: SC William RAMSAY Brother M S W 21 SC Occ: Laborer Fa: SCOTLAND Mo: SC More About WILLIAM S. RAMSEY: Burial: Family Cem, Monetta, Saluda Co, SC Notes for BEULAH LOTT: The obituary of her mother Bettie A. Lott, Augusta Chronicle, 29 Sept, 1920, does not list her as a surviving child. However it does list one grandson, Albert Ramsey of Monetta. From this I am assuming she died before her mother. More About BEULAH LOTT: Burial: Monetta, Saluda Co, SC Children of WILLIAM RAMSEY and BEULAH LOTT are: 3. i. ALBERT J.3 RAMSEY, b. October 24, 1889; d. January 27, 1949. ii. CLEO RAMSEY15, b. Monetta, Saluda Co, SC; d. April 15, 1948, Augusta, Richmond Co, GA16; m. JOHN OLIVER HILL17,18, May 10, 1919, Augusta, Richmond Co, GA; b. Abt. 1874, Augusta, Richmond Co, GA; d. February 10, 1940, Augusta, Richmond Co, GA. Notes for CLEO RAMSEY: She is named as a granddaughter, Mrs. Olive Hill, of Augusta, in the 1920 obit of Bettie A. Lott [Augusta Chronicle , Sept 29, 1920, p. 7A; In the obit of Marshall (Jack) Lott, written July 26, 1933, Richmond Co, GA, she is named as a niece, Mrs. J. O. Hill of Augusta, GA; In the obit of her Aunt Sallie Lott, d. 1942, she is called Mrs. Cleo R. Hill. Based on this, it is my conclusion that she is Cleo Ramsey Hill, daughter of Buelah Lott Ramsey, sister of Sallie Lott. She is connected to her line thru an obit that was posted to the [email protected] list by Beth Hemingway, August, 2004. It contained the following statement: W.S. Ramsey Dies at Columbia, SC - Was Father of Mrs J.O. Hill of Augusta [Augusta Chronicle, 5-27-1925, page 5A] Obituary of Mrs. Cleo Hill d. April 14, 1948 Mrs. Cleo Hill Dies in Local Hospital Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill of 264 Broad Street, widow of the late John Oliver Hill, died in a local hospital early yesterday morning after an extended illness. Funeral services will be held at the First Presbyterian church, of which she was a member, this afternoon at 4:30 o'clock with the Rev. Cary N. Wesiger (sic) III, officiating. Pallbearers will be Kasper Fulghum, Dr. Hoke Segars, Charles H. Pitts, Sr., Wyman Holston, Dillard Thompson and Roy Holston. Interment will be in Magnolia cemetery. The body will be at Platt's Funeral home until the hour of the funeral. Mrs. Hill was born in Monetta, S.C., but had lived in Augusta nearly all her life. She was a clerk in a local drug store. She is survived by a brother, Albert Ramsey, of Monetta, S.C., and two nephews, Joe Ramsey and Russell Ramsey. Source: Augusta Chronicle, 15April1948, p4Ac3 More About CLEO RAMSEY: Burial: Magnolia Cem., Augusta, Richmond Co. Ga.19 Notes for JOHN OLIVER HILL: File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Beth Hemingway http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg/vols/00012.html#0002791 August 11, 2004, 5:22 pm Augusta Chronicle, 2-11-1940, page 2A -- John Oliver Hill, 66, Passes At Residence John Oliver Hill, 66, husband of Mrs Cleo Ramsey Hill, died last night at the home of his sisters, Misses Ruth I. Hill and Elizabeth U. Hill, 403 Walker Street, following an eight days illness. A native of this city, Mr Hill was a retired railroad engineer, having been employed by the C & WC railroad 49 years. He was a member of the First Presbyterian church and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. In addition to his wife and two sisters, he is survived by one brother, W.D. Hill of West Palm Beach, Fla. Funeral services will be announced later by Platt's Funeral Home. Marriage Notes for CLEO RAMSEY and JOHN HILL: RAMSEY-HILL The marriage is announced of Miss Cleo Ramsey and Mr. John Oliver Hill, which was very quietly performed Saturday, May 10th, at the manse of the First Presbyterian Church, Rev. Dr. Joseph R. Sevier officiating. The bride is the only daughter of Mr. W. S. Ramsey of Columbia, S.C., but has made her home with her grandmother, Mrs. J. M. Lott, at Augusta, since childhood, and has endeared herself to many friends here and in Carolina who will be interested in this happy event. Mr. Hill is well known and popular and is connected with the Charleston & Western Carolina Railway here. They left immediately for New York and Canada on their return, in about two weeks, they will make their home with Mrs. Marson E. Hill at 403 Walker Street. Source: Augusta Chronicle, 13 May 1919, p5Ac5 More About JOHN HILL and CLEO RAMSEY: Marriage: May 10, 1919, Augusta, Richmond Co, GA Generation No. 3 3. ALBERT J.3 RAMSEY (WILLIAM S.2, ANDREW1)20,21 was born October 24, 188922, and died January 27, 194922. He married FLEMMA SAWYER22. She was born December 03, 188722, and died December 19, 197322. Notes for ALBERT J. RAMSEY: He is listed in the obit of his Uncle Marshal (Jack) Lott in 1933 as A. J. Ramsey. In the 1942 obit of his Aunt, Miss Sally Lott, he is called Albert J. Ramsey of Monetta, SC. Based on this info., I searched HC Ouzts' Lott and Ramsey files and found the following: Albert J. Ramsey (b. 10/24/1889 Edgefield SC, m. Flemma Sawyer (b. 12/3/1887 Edgefield SC, d. 12/19/1973)[d/o Sarah (Sallie) Thrailkill & Henry M. Sawyer], d. 1/27/1949) Bethel Bapt Saluda SC He is also named in the Will of his uncle Marshall H. Lott, written July 26, 1933., Richmond Co, GA. I am attaching these individuals based on these relationships, altho it is entirely possible that it is just a coincidence with two individuals having the same name. More About ALBERT J. RAMSEY: Burial: Bethel Bapt Church, Saluda Co., SC Children of ALBERT RAMSEY and FLEMMA SAWYER are: i. JOE4 RAMSEY23. ii. RUSSELL RAMSEY23. Endnotes 1. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Edgefield Court House, p. 114, Aug. 3, 1860, hh#866/851, head of hh. 2. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Edgefield Court House, p. 114, Aug. 3, 1860, hh#866/851, wife. 3. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Edgefield Court House, p. 114, Aug. 3, 1860, hh#866/851, with parents. 4. Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202, p. 158 (1357). 5. Calculated, from age at death given in obit, Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202. 6. Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202, p. 158 (1357). 7. Calculated, from age at death given in obit, Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202. 8. Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202. 9. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1870 Edgefield Co, SC, hh#38 [electronic version, no page numbers given], with parents. 10. "Obituary," of daughter, Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 15 April 1948, p4Ac3. 11. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Edgefield Court House, p. 114, Aug. 3, 1860, hh#866/851, with parents. 12. Death Certificate, of William S. Ramsey, 1925 - Cert. #8617, Richland Co, SC. 13. CENSUS:, "Electronic," 1880 Chinquapin, Aiken, South Carolina, p. 148B. 14. "Obituary," of her mother, Bettie A. Lott, Augusta Chronicle, 29 Sept, 1920. 15. "Obituary," of Miss Sally Lott, Augusta Chronicle, Oct 3, 1942 as sent to me by Larry Scott. 16. "Obituary," of Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 15 April 1948, p4Ac3. 17. Larry D. Scott <[email protected]>, 2202 West Hermosa, San Antonio, TX 78201, "Electronic," Coroner's inquest/report/obit of Marshall (Jack) Lott, Augusta Chronicle, Tuesday, Nov. 11, 1933. 18. "Obituary," of John Oliver Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 2-11-1940, page 2A as posted to USGENWEB by Beth Boysworth Hemingway <[email protected]>. 19. "Obituary," of Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 15 April 1948, p4Ac3. 20. "Obituary," of Miss Sally Lott, Augusta Chronicle, Oct 3, 1942 as sent to me by Larry Scott. 21. "Obituary," of his sister, Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 15 April 1948, p4Ac3. 22. H.C. Ouzts, (8391 South Robidoux Rd, Sandy, Utah 84093 (801-942-0257) < [email protected]>), "Electronic," Ramsey Family file. 23. "Obituary," of aunt, Mrs. Cleo Ramsey Hill, Augusta Chronicle, 15 April 1948, p4Ac3. ========================== Now who can check info. on parents of John Oliver Hill for me. 1 HILL ..... 2 John Oliver HILL b: Abt. 1874 in Augusta, Richmond Co, GA d: February 10, 1940 Augusta, Richmond Co, GA ......... +Cleo RAMSEY b: in Monetta, Saluda Co, SC m: May 10, 1919 Augusta, Richmond Co, GA d: April 15, 1948 Augusta, Richmond Co, GA Burial: Magnolia Cem., Augusta, Richmond Co. Ga. Father: William S. Ramsey Mother: Beulah Lott ..... 2 Ruth I. HILL ..... 2 Elizabeth U. HILL ..... 2 W. D. HILL I have searched the 1880 GA census CDs I have and cannot find a John, John Oliver, J. O., Oliver Hill in GA., so there may be an error in that. Or I am not looking right. Didn't find a Ruth Hill (sister named in obit), but she may be younger and born after 1880. Platt's Funeral Home may have the record. Thanks for any help. Billie Jones