Several people on the list have shown interest in Sugar Jones Mathews in the past, about where the name came from in particular. I'm hoping that bringing this subject up again with some new "vectors" that hit me a little while ago like an epiphany will spark someone to tell me my theory makes sense. First, there were several men in Edgefield County who had the name Sugar Jones Mathews. There was one who was a son of Lewis Mathews and Nancy Allen. There was another who was a son of the former Sugar's brother Drury (he migrated to Louisiana). The third Sugar is the one who is of particular interest to me at the moment. I suspect that he was a brother of the Drury Mathews who married Mourning Pope. Drury's parents were William and Mary (possibly Cook) Mathews. I tentatively have William and Mary's sons as: Drury m. Mourning Pope Lewis m. Elizabeth Pope Sugar Jones m. ??? There was also a James Mathews close to them who I suspect was also a son, but I am less certain about him than the other three men. At worst, he was a son of one the three above. All three of these men, as well as William, lived close together between Ninety-Six Creek and Halfway Swamp close to the Abbeville Co. border (modern day Greenwood County area). Sugar Jones Mathews shows up first in Edgefield in the 1800 census which is adequate proof that he is not to be confused with the other two Sugar's as one was 5 years old or less and the other wasn't even born. There is a Brunswick County, VA marriage record for Angelica Jones Mathews marrying a Sugar Jones Mathews 11 Jun 1792. That marriage aside I've long felt that William Mathews and his sons came from Virginia before settling in Edgefield County in, I believe, the 1780s. I've also always felt like these Mathews men were related to the more well known Mathews who settled around the Little Saluda Creek area in about 1788, but I've never been able to prove it. I still can't prove it, but I now believe I can make a case for it that is compelling. The fact that someone named Sugar Jones Mathews married in Brunswick County has always been of interest because I've never seen the name "Sugar Jones Mathews" outside of Edgefield County at this period of time with that one exception. Not in any book, microfilm or anywhere on the internet. The past week or so I started working in earnest on a related Mathews line that did not migrate to Edgefield County. In that line some of the more common first names are Drury, Luke, William and John. These names appear over and over again in the names of the sons and grandsons of Charles Mathews who died in Brunswick County in 1780 (Charles was an uncle of the Isaac Mathews who settled along Little Saluda with sons Moses, Lewis, Hardy, Micajah and Daniel). Angelica Jones Mathews was one of Charles' granddaughters. The Sugar Jones Mathews from Edgefield who lived near Drury and Lewis died about 1831 (administration on his estate took place in 1831) and twelve people received a 1/12 share in the sale of his real estate. So, I assume his wife was dead by 1831 and the twelve named were his children, to wit: James, Drury, Blanche, Lewis, Catherine, William, Willey/Willa, Pamelia, Caleb, Luke, John Christian (for his wife's share) and the two children of Bud [Cade] Mathews deceased (Sarah and Martha who split a 1/12 share). In that list of names we see 3 names that are very common in the line of Angelica Jones Mathews' grandfather: Drury, Luke and William. Lewis and James are also somewhat common and those are names of two of Sugar's sons also. As if that wasn't enough circumstantial evidence I recalled a couple of hours ago that I had read an older post by Billie Jones a few weeks ago on Willey/Willa, one of the daughters mentioned in Sugar's administration sale. I believe Billie was asking if it were possible that Willa was the wife of John Benjamin Carter of Edgefield County. One of the receipts to the estate sale of Sugar Jones Mathews went to John Carter Jr. "for share of wife". Assuming that Willa did in fact marry this John Benjamin Carter then I find the names of two of their children of particular interest: Charles Richard Gellico Carter and Lydia Ann Gellico Carter. At the time I originally read that I was thinking "Frangelico" as in the liqueur. However, what if "Gellico" and "Ann Gellico" are some variation of "Angelica"? If the Sugar Jones Mathews of Edgefield County did in fact marry Angelica Jones Mathews of Brunswick County, VA then Willa would have been her daughter and it would make sense if Angelica's name were carried on in the names of Willa's children. In fact, I have seen at least one Brunswick County record where Angelica's name is spelled "Angelico". There is another record where it is spelled Gellica or Gellico. 1) So, if Sugar Jones Mathews did in fact travel to Brunswick County to marry another Mathews it would only make sense if they were related, or at the very least knew her prior. An alternative would be that he remained in VA after his father and brothers moved to Edgefield and only moved down after he married. 2) This in turn would mean that Sugar Jones Mathews and his brothers and father were also related to the Mathews around Little Saluda. I would really love to tie these two families together with certainty. I'm afraid that only DNA testing may be able to do it. If anyone reading this is a descendant of any of these Mathews, or if you know anyone who is I hope that we can get a male descendant to take a DNA test. Along with myself we have 5 others in a little Mathews subgroup within the Mathews DNA project who have taken the test who can all trace back to a common ancestor who was born about 1680 and lived in Virginia. With that many cross reference results we can tell for certain if this group of Mathews that Sugar Jones Mathews was a part of is related to the Isaac Mathews family. Sorry for being so long with this, there is more circumstantial evidence that I have, but this is the gist of it. Greg Matthews