I started the 1920 census today and not 10 minutes before this email arrived I found Nancy Caughman Matthews in the 1920 census and this time she is listed as Nannie E. Matthews (and living next door to Watson's son Charlie William Mathews). That pretty much settles it for me. With a couple of exceptions the majority of Mathews found in Barnwell County, at least up to the 1880 census, are descended from B.C.W. Mathews's uncle William F. Mathews. William F. is there at least as early as the 1850 Barnwell County census. The Watson found there in 1870 is his son Williamson Watson Mathews. The Moses Mathews you saw in the 1900 census should be the son of William Garrett Matthews and Elizabeth Corley. Greg Matthews ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net> To: "Greg Matthews" <dialzero@bellsouth.net> Cc: "SCSALUDA" <SCSALUDA@rootsweb.com>; "SCEDGEFIELD" <SCEDGEFI@rootsweb.com>; "H.C. Ouzts" <hc@ouzts.net> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Watson Matthews md. Nancy Elizabeth Caughman. > Great, because I had come to the same conclusion. The 1870 Census still > puzzles me, since neither the name Nancy or Elizabeth occur as a name of > an > adult. Maybe she was off caring for her aged father or something, and > Nancy > was helping to care for her children while she was gone. I don't know, > but > the length of marriage evidence you got from the 1900 and 1910 census > records certainly support a long term marriage to one Nancy Elizabeth > Caughman. > > Nancy Elizabeth just sounds more likely that Elizabeth Nancy is the only > reason I put the Nancy first. > > I also agree about the DAUGHTER M. E. being female, and listed in error in > 1860. > > There is another Watson Matthews in Barnwell Co, 1870, Series: M593 Roll: > 1484 Page: 445, and a full page of Matthews, living in Williston. but > he's > not married to Lucy either. I also looked for Caughman in 1870, but found > no Jacob, or any other age ca 75, since he was 65 in 1860. He could have > been living in another HH, but I did not go thru them. None in Saluda, > most > in Lexington Co. > > So, altho I agree with your conclusions, I am still curious about why Lucy > is listed in 1870. > > Thanks for getting back in touch. I will let you know anything that I > find > out. > > Bud Cade Watson Matthews died between 1910 - 1920 and a Moses Matthews is > listed in cem. records as follows: Matthews, Moses C. [Charles, Sr.] Aug > 3 1871 - Oct 6 1918. So I will try to find those DC as well. > > I found the Moses in census records as follows: > CENSUS: 1900 Saluda Co, SC, #1 (Germanville), p. 5A, hh#80/82 > Moses Matthews, head, 28 M W 8/1871, md 7 yrs, Farmer, Owns Farm, can > r/w SC SC SC > Sallie Matthews, wife, 27 F W 12/1872 md 7 yrs, 4 children/4 living, can > r/w, SC SC SC > Lethes L. Matthews, dau, 6 F W 4/1874 SC SC SC > Metra M. Matthews, dau, 4 F W 8/1895, SC SC SC > Eddie G. Matthews, son, 2 M W 11/1897, SC SC SC > Otis A. Matthews, son, 1 M W 5/1899, SC SC SC > > He is in the 1870 census with the parents, age 2, so that may mean this is > the wrong Moses. > > Billie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Matthews" <dialzero@bellsouth.net> > To: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net>; <scsaluda@rootsweb.com>; > "SCEDGEFIELD" <SCEDGEFI@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SCSALUDA] More Matthews Death Cert connected to > OldEdgefieldDistarea. > > >>I think I've figured all this mess out. Billie, ignore that email I just >>sent you. >> >> The 1860 census for Watson Mathews shows N. E. Mathews in his household. >> I've had this in my census spreadsheet for a couple of years and could >> not >> figure it out until now. This N. E. Mathews must be Nancy Elizabeth >> Caughman Mathews, his wife obviously (more on the Elizabeth bit in a >> minute). The 1860 census plainly shows that the 1 year child, M. E. >> Mathews is male. I think this is a mistake and that it should be female. >> Watson's daughter Elizabeth who shows up in the 1870 census is shown as >> 12 >> years old in 1870 so she should be in his 1860 household. >> >> The 1870 census is the only place we see the name Lucy. Note that there >> is a 8 year difference in their ages. In 1860 there is a 2 year >> difference in the ages of Watson and N.E. In 1880 there is a 3 year >> difference between Watson and Nancy. In 1900 there is a 3 year >> difference >> in age between Watson and Nancy. In 1910 Watson's wife is shown as >> Elizabeth (I just found this tonite) and there is a 4 year difference in >> their ages. >> >> In 1900 Nancy is listed as the mother of 9 children with all being alive. >> In 1910 Elizabeth says she is the mother of 9 children with 8 being >> alive. >> >> The most interesting bit of evidence is that in 1910 it says that Watson >> and Elizabeth have both only been married once and that they have been >> married 53 years. In 1900 Nancy and Watson are shown to be married 42 >> years. That would place the marriage of Watson and Nancy/Elizabeth at >> somewhere between 1856 and 1858. >> >> All of this taken together leads me to the conclusion that Watson was >> never married to a "Lucy" (at the very least we could suppose that Lucy >> was a nickname). However, if we look back at 1860 we see another young >> lady who I presume to be Nancy's sister: L. E. Caughman. We usually >> presume, without anything else to go on, that between 1850 and 1870 that >> a >> man and woman listed consecutively in the same household in the census to >> be man and wife. I've seen a couple of other instances where this isn't >> the case, aside from brother and sister, so I'm fully prepared to say >> that >> since the 1870 census does not implicitly tell us that Lucy is Watson's >> wife that it is possible that, for whatever reason, Lucy might in fact be >> his sister-in-law, L. E. Caughman (yes I'm taking a leap that the "L" >> stands for Lucy---or possibly Louisa as shown in the 1850 household of >> Jacob Caughman---, but it seems like a good idea at the moment!). >> >> At this point I am removing Lucy from my database as a wife of Watsons >> and >> putting all of his children under Nancy Elizabeth Caughman until other >> evidence presents itself. >> >> Greg Matthews >> > >