Trying to send this again.. It was returned with permanent delivery failure. --------------------------------------------------- Kay, You wrote: The Col. Oliver that I have was b. 1 Sep 1735, Middlesex Co, Va. He d. 1835, Lynchburg, Va & m. Jane Goggans, 1762, Va. I have another Oliver b. c. 1710, Middlesex Co, Va & d. c. 1770, Spotsylvania Co, Va. My ancestor *Toliver Towles, sometimes listed as Oliver, was b. 7 Jan 1800, Edgefield Dist & d. 1873, Chambers Co, Al. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have an Oliver Towles in my files b. ca 1800. Is this your Toliver? I have this one d. in Edgefield Dist, per his obit. 1 Oliver Towles, Col. b: Abt. 1800 d: Jan 09, 1851 in Edgefield Co, SC .. +Mrs. Mary [May] Chappell b: May 10, 1794 d: Aug 19, 1857 ..... 2 Susan Elvira Towles b: Jul 23, 1827 in Newberry/Edgefield Dist, SC d: Dec 19, 1893 Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC ......... +Ridley Morgan Scurry b: Feb 21, 1828 in Edgefield Dist, SC m: 1852 d: Dec 04, 1869 Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC Father: Thomas SCURRY, Sr. Mother: Sarah ROSS ..... 2 Mary Towles b: Abt. 1831 ......... +P. B. Wever b: Abt. 1829 m: Abt. 1848 ..... 2 Eliza Towles b: Abt. 1834 ......... +Richard Payne ..... 2 Ralph Scurry Towles b: Mar 20, 1837 in SC d: Dec 31, 1905 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ......... +Isabelle N. Black b: Feb 14, 1843 in SC d: Jun 16, 1919 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC Father: E. Mark BLACK Mother: Nancy* CARSON I have at least 6 generations of desc. and may be connected to the Ridley Morgan Scurry thru a sibling or his parents. Don't know yet. Sources: 1. Edgefield Death Notices and Cemetery Records, Carlee McClendon, 1977 by Hives Press, P.O. Box 1841, Columbia, SC 29202, p. 87 - obit of Oliver Towles. 2. Will of Mary Towles, BOX 76, PKG3044. EDGEFIELD COUNTY, Edgefield, S.C, 1857. [names children] 3. other sources for Susan Elvira Towles: a. DAR Records of Mrs. Ella Belle Scurry Smith, 1927 DAR file # 228747 b. Edgefield Village Cem Records, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC c. Keith Midgette <BoykinLvr@aol.com>, 5510 Huntington Avenue, Newport News, VA 23607 (757) 244-1771, citing information from "Our Folks" by Maron Summer Eve. ---------------------------------------------------- Somehow Mrs. Mary Towles is related to the Waters.... here is her will: EDGEFIELD CO WILL BOOK E, Pages 234-236 - BOX No. 76, PKG No. 3044 EDGEFIELD COUNTY, Edgefield, S.C. [July 15, 1857] I Mary Towles, Widow of Oliver Towles, being of Sound And disposing mind and memory, do make and declare this to be my last Will and Testament, hereby revoking all other Wills previously made by me. 1st. I direct all my just debts to be paid. 2nd. I will and bequeath to my Grand Son *Philemon Waters Four Hundred Dollars, and should he die without leaving a child Surviving him, then I direct that the said money be equally divided between my children Mary Wever, Elvira Scurry, Eliza Payne & Ralph Towles. 3rd. I will and bequeath to my Grand daughter *Sarah G. Dozier Two hundred dollars and should she die without leaving a child surviving her then I direct that the money be equally divided between my children Mary Wever, Elvira Scurry, Eliza Payne & Ralph Towles. 4th. I will and bequeath to my grandson Layfaette Towles Wever, one hundred dollars for the purpose of buying him a horse. 5th. I will to my son Ralph Towles the following Negro Viz, Wash, Maria, Scott and Berry, as also the Tract of Land whereon I now reside, containing three hundred acres, together with my household and kitchen furniture, also all of the stock of horses, mules, cattle & hogs, together with all of the corn, fodder, oats, wheat, Bacon and all the provisions that may be on hand at he time of my death. I will and bequeath the above described property to my son Ralph Towles during the term of his natural life, and at his death to his lawfully begotten children, but should he die leaving no child surviving him, my desire is that the said property be equally divided between my other children, Elvira Scurry, Mary Wever, & Eliza Payne share and share alike. 6th. I will and bequeath to my son-in-law Ridley M. Scurry for the Sole and Separate use, benefit & behoof of my daughter Mary Wever, Three negros, Viz, Harriett and Mary & her child Adaline Together with their future increase which said Negroes are now in her possession, and are also Secure to her by Separate deeds of gifts to my Said son in law R.M. Scurry. 7th. To my daughter Eliza Payne I will and bequeath a Negro boy named Jasper. 8th. To my daughter Elvira Scurry, I will and bequeath a Negro boy Andrew. 9th. I will and bequeath all the balance of my Estate both Real & Personal to my two daughters Elvira Scurry & Eliza Payne- Share and Share alike- and it is my will and desire that the shares of my two daughters in this clause named and also the two negroes given & willed to my daughter Mary Wever be their Sole & Separate Estate, and I further direct that if either of my children Elvira, Mary or Eliza should die without leaving a child or children living at the time of their death that the share of the one so dying shall be divided Equally between the Survivors, and the child or children of any one of them who may have died- the child or children of the one So dying to take the share that the parent would have taken if living. 10th. I hereby nominate, Constitute & appoint my sons-in-law Ridley M Scurry & Richard Payne Executors of this my last will. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal the fifteenth day of July, Eighteen hundred & fifty Seven. Signed Sealed & acknowledged Mary Towles //LS// In the presence of the Testatrix as Her last Will and Testament G.W. Carwile John Hueit H.C. King Proven This 11th September 1857., W. F. Durisoe, OED PROBATE COURT IN THE MATTER OF The Will of Mary Towles Proven on the oath Of John Huiet one Of Subcribing Witnesses Sametime Qualified R.M. Scurry and Richard Payne Executors On the application R.M. Scurry and Richard Payne Executors of the Estate of Mary Towles Deceased It is ordered that they do sell all the personal Estate of said Deceased, at the late residence of Said Deceased on the Third Day of October next, Saturday, at 10 O'Clock A.M ----------------------------------- I have not looked at the actual package with the accounting on this one. That should give the distribution and often allows you to determine the relationship when consideriing the comparison of the parts of the estate. [ex: 1/3 of 1/5 probably indicates she had 5 children and one deceased had three children.] ---------------------------------------------- Thank you, thank you, thank you! You got me looking back on something I have not worked on in a long time. And I think I can now make the connection. I have a Mary May md. 1st. Henry Chappell, and they have a grandson, Philimon Waters. It all works so I combined the two Marys, and this is what I now have for her. Comments, additions and corrections welcome. I will be glad to send a file to any indiviual upon request with notes and sources. Be sure to name the family you are requesting, so I will send the correct one. Descendants of Mary May 1 Mary May b: May 10, 1794 d: Aug 19, 1857 .. +Henry Chappell m: Bef. 1814 ..... 2 Martha Caroline M. Chappell b: Nov 24, 1814 in Edgefield Co, SC d: Apr 28, 1894 Burial: Perry Family Cemetery, Perry's Crossroad, Saluda Co, SC ......... +Philamon Berry Waters b: Sep 01, 1807 m: Feb 15, 1831 d: Jul 30, 1840 in Johnston, Edgefield Co., SC/ Prarie Bluff ARK ............ 3 Sarah Gilliam Waters b: Jan 03, 1832 d: Sep 16, 1908 Burial: Mt. of Olives Cem., Johnston, Edgefield Co, SC ................ +John E. Perry b: May 22, 1834 d: May 15, 1914 Burial: Mt. of Olives Cem., Johnston, Edgefield Co, SC Father: James* PERRY Mother: Rachel UNKNOWN ............ *2nd Husband of Sarah Gilliam Waters: ................ +Arthur Dozier b: Abt. 1818 d: Sep 26, 1856 Burial: Perry Family Cem, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Philemon Berry Waters, Capt. b: Sep 19, 1840 in ALABAMA/Newberry Co, SC d: Oct 09, 1916 in Johnston, Edgefield Co., SC Burial: Mt. of Olives Cem, Johnston, Edgefield Co, SC ................ +Mary Caroline Huiet b: Nov 17, 1846 m: Dec 21, 1865 d: Apr 17, 1940 Burial: Mt. of Olives Cem, Johnston, Edgefield Co, SC ..... *2nd Husband of Martha Caroline M. Chappell: ......... +Bennett Perry b: Abt. 1797 in SC m: Aft. Jan 23, 1843 d: Aug 04, 1865 Burial: Perry Family Cemetery, Perry's Crossroad, Saluda Co, SC Father: Ezekial PERRY, Sr* Mother: Elizabeth DOCTON ............ 3 Bennett Perry b: Mar 04, 1845 in SC d: Dec 24, 1916 in Confederate Infirmary, Columbia, Richland Co, SC ............ 3 Toliver Perry b: Abt. 1846 in SC ............ 3 Mary Perry b: Abt. 1849 in SC ............ 3 Mansfield H. Perry b: Jan 20, 1853 in SC d: Oct 28, 1929 in Saluda Co, SC Burial: Travis Park Cem, Saluda Co, SC ................ +Emma Smith b: Jun 05, 1853 d: May 04, 1942 Burial: Travis Park Cem, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Robert Stewart Perry b: Jul 15, 1857 in *Edgefield Dist, Saluda regiment, SC d: May 16, 1927 in Newberry,Newberry Co, SC Burial: Perry Family Cemetery, Saluda Co, SC ................ +Joe Ida Berry b: Sep 07, 1862 d: Nov 07, 1911 Burial: Perry Family Cemetery, Saluda Co, SC Father: Joseph BERRY Mother: Mary STEWART *2nd Husband of Mary May: .. +Oliver Towles, Col. b: Abt. 1800 m: Bef. 1827 d: Jan 09, 1851 in Edgefield Co, SC Father: TOWLES ..... 2 Susan Elvira Towles b: Jul 23, 1827 in Newberry/Edgefield Dist, SC d: Dec 19, 1893 Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC ......... +Ridley Morgan Scurry b: Feb 21, 1828 in Edgefield Dist, SC m: 1852 d: Dec 04, 1869 Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC Father: Thomas SCURRY, Sr. Mother: Sarah ROSS ............ 3 Thomas Oliver Scurry b: Jun 07, 1850 d: Jul 27, 1851 Burial: Chestnut Hill Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Ella Eliza Scurry b: Jun 16, 1852 in SC d: Feb 02, 1916 in Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC ............ 3 Preston Brooks Scurry b: Dec 10, 1854 d: Mar 20, 1923 Burial: Zoar Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ................ +Julia Yarborough b: Jan 15, 1858 d: Jul 13, 1903 Burial: Zoar Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Drury Riddle Scurry b: Jun 16, 1857 d: Sep 06, 1858 ............ 3 Frederick Philemon Scurry b: Abt. 1859 ............ 3 Ralph Towles Scurry b: Sep 02, 1861 d: Jan 09, 1909 Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC ............ 3 John Ridley Scurry b: Mar 21, 1866 in Edgefield Co, SC d: Feb 14, 1939 in Edgefield, Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, SC ................ +Leila V. Stevens b: Jan 27, 1872 in Edgefield Co, SC m: 1891 d: Feb 27, 1941 in Wise Towship, Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Edgefield Village Cem, Edgefield, SC Father: John Marion STEVENS Mother: Jane MOORE ..... 2 Mary Towles b: Abt. 1831 ......... +P. B. Wever b: Abt. 1829 m: Abt. 1848 ............ 3 Lafayette Towles Wever ............ 3 Lawrence O. Wever b: Abt. 1849 ..... 2 Eliza Towles b: Abt. 1834 ......... +Richard Payne ..... 2 Ralph Scurry Towles b: Mar 20, 1837 in SC d: Dec 31, 1905 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ......... +Isabelle N. Black b: Feb 14, 1843 in SC d: Jun 16, 1919 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC Father: E. Mark BLACK Mother: Nancy* CARSON ............ 3 John Oliver Towles b: Oct 11, 1858 in Edgefield Co, SC d: Nov 02, 1945 in Ninety Six, Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Elmwood Cem, Ninety Six, Greenwood Co, SC ................ +Annie Lou Smith b: Mar 04, 1871 in Edgefield Co, SC d: Mar 01, 1969 in Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Elmwood Cem, Ninety Six, Greenwood Co, SC Father: Benjamin Franklin SMITH Mother: Frances Caroline 'Fannie' ANDERSON ............ 3 Mary M. Towles b: May 30, 1860 d: Sep 18, 1880 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Ralph Scurry Towles b: Nov 30, 1862 d: Nov 07, 1941 ................ +Bessie Brown b: Oct 11, 1868 ............ 3 Alice C. Towles b: Aug 04, 1864 in Old Edgefield Co, SC d: Sep 01, 1951 in Ninety Six, Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ................ +Irwin (Isaac) Duncan Herring b: Oct 05, 1868 d: Mar 28, 1933 in Greenwood, Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Sallie Towles b: Abt. 1868 ............ 3 [Mark] Towles b: Jun 09, 1871 d: Jun 02, 1937 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Julia Towles b: Nov 29, 1877 in Edgefield Dist, SC, Saluda Division d: Apr 12, 1948 in Greenwood, Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 [Nannie] Towles b: Jun 29, 1881 d: Nov 23, 1978 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ................ +John H. Wheeler b: Nov 02, 1878 d: May 05, 1950 Burial: Good Hope Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC What do you think.... does this fit. Billie Jones tjones@camden.net