I looked this up for Kathy Wilcox and note the names are so "Old Edgefield Dist". I believe that some of my folks were in the Spartanburg, Union Co. area before coming on to Edgefield. These folks seem to belong to some of those folks that must have traveled together: Since I scanned it to send to her, I am sending it on to the lists in case it helps someone else. I included the title page as well for reference purposes. The names of the witnesses were underlined in the book, but since I could not send it in RTF, that was lost. Billie Jones ---------------------------------------------------------- THE SOUTH CAROLINA MAGAZINE OF ANCESTRAL RESEARCH Volume XXX Fall 2002 Number 4 CONTENTS COMMENTS AND REFLECTIONS 182 MARRIAGE AND DEATH NOTICES FROM THE WATCHMAN AND OBSERVER 183 A CONTESTED ELECTION AT ST. JAMES, GOOSE CREEK 189 THE WILL OF MALACHI JONES, SPARTANBURG DISTRICT 192 RECORDS FROM BETHEL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH (Walterboro, SC) 193 LAURENS DISTRICT CORONER'S INQUISITIONS 1802-1865 199 LEGAL BRIEFS OF JUDGE THOMAS WATIES 1793-1828 205 BOOK REVIEWS 209 REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION 210 INDEX TO VOLUME XXX 212 The South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research (ISSN 0190-826X) Brent H. Holcomb, Editor and Publisher Laurence K. Wells, Founder and Contributing Editor Published quarterly at Columbia, South Carolina © 2002 by Brent II. Holcomb The subscription price is $30.00 per annum. All subscriptions begin with the winter issue of the volume. Issues are not sold separately. Correspondence may be addressed Box 21766, Columbia, SC 29221. Copy located at Camden Archives --------------------------------------- LEGAL BRIEFS OF JUDGE THOMAS WATIES 1793-1828 Item number 288. Spartanb. Apr. 1810. The State vs John Saunders. Murder of Ignatius Griffin. (pgs 206-208) Young Allen. At a muster ground the prisoner & the son of dec'd had a quarrel. The deceased got very angry, pushed upon prisoner, who seemed to wish not to have anything to do with him. As prisoner went off, deceased followed him. Heard soon after a voice like Saunders's say "don't come or do so again," and then heard a blow struck. It was late in the evening. Went to this place. Saw S. of G. striking him with a stick. It appeared to be half of a fence rail, as thick as his arm. Others came up. Took off Saunders. Then took up Griffin. He fetched only a few breaths & died. Did not speak. X'd. The deceased & prisoner went to the ground that day from his house & appeared friendly. G. run his hors upon S. several times. Told S. he c'd whip him. S. said he did not wish to fight him. G. a quarrelsome man. a strong man. Very able to whip Saunders. He wanted to fight several of his neighbours that day. Saunders's knew very much cute, almost to the bone. Thinks it was done with a stick. The prisoner is reckoned a peaceable man by the neighbours. The deceased had several wounds on his head. Both parties had been drinking that day. Witness is the uncle of S. and G. married his sister. S. is the son in law of G. married G's daughter. Willis Alien. G & S had had frequent quarrels before. Never heard S. threaten to do G. any mischief. There had been a fight that day between S. & young Griffin. The were parted. Old. G. got very angry came up & told S. he had better whip him. S. said "no, I have no harm against you." This repeated by both several times. S. then on his horse, about to start. Very abusive language. G. run up his horse against s. several times. S. endeavoured to get out of his way. X'd. The deceased & prisoner came briefly together that day. The last quarrel they had was twelve months before. G. was as much of a man as any other of his weight. This his general character. Very violent when his anger was raised. G. was able to whip S. at any time. The wound on S's knee a very bad one. Very deep & ugly. The prisoner is the half brother & G. was the uncle of witness. James Harrison. Went to the place upon hearing the blows. Assisted in taking up G. He died in a few minutes. G. was about 50 years old. Henry Griffin. Has heard prisoner once threaten to kill his father if he did so & so. This twelve months before. They were friendly after that. His father was 60 odd years old. X'd. Just before the affair the parties were more friendly than they had been. Tracey. Was at the muster ground that evening. Heard the blow struck. Did not hear any previous words. Before they started G. seemed to want very much to fight S. but S. very unwilling to do so. For prisoner. [guess this is the DEFENSE] John Lipscomb. Has been acquainted with prisoner for a length of time. Believes him a peaceable man. Knew the deceased. Thinks he could have whipped Saunders. T. Lipscomb. Saw prisoner after the affair. His neck & one side app'd to have ben in the dirt. Saw his knew. Thinks the wound was caused by a fall. S. a peaceable man. J. Hunter Jones. A. a quiet peaceable man. The deceased a violent man when angry. Buttrum. Was at prisoner's house when G. attacked it. The door shut to keep him out. G. very insulting, run his fist in S's face, pushed his head against the wall. S. got out of his way. Very humble. Went out of his house. G. still pushing on him. At last S. called for an axe & swore if G. persisted, he w'd kill him. G. called for the axe too. At last S. come in, & the door was shut & keep out G. G. tried to burst it open. Got a pole &U tried to jab S. ("this the time referred to bey John G.). Patterson. Was at S's house at the time. His evidence to the same effect. Wilson. Saw S. after the scuffle with young G. Does not believe that he got his knew hurt then. No appearance of it. Duncan. his evid. to the same effect. Brooks. Evid. to the same effect. Guilty of manslaughter & recommended to a pardon.