I have a reference to a Panter/Panther [both spellings were used] Branch in land records from Edgefield in my TROTTER files. A mortgage of Richard TURNER from 1829 indicates that Panter/Panther Branch is/was a branch of Big Creek. Betty T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: "Greg Matthews" <dialzero@bellsouth.net>; <sc-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: <scedgefi-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCEDGEFI] Reading plats/Panther Creek > The 1825 Mills Atlas shows only one Panther Creek, and it's in Marlboro Co > in the Cheraws District. Go north up Rte. 38 from Bennettsville to the NC > state line. Panther Creek enters from NC where the road crosses the state > line, runs ESE for a bit over 2 miles before Boggy Branch joins it from > the > NW, then it enters Beaverdam Creek another mile SE from there. Beaverdam > runs NE into Gum Swamp, after which it becomes the Little Pee Dee River. > If > you're just southwest of the NE corner of Marlboro Co at the NC border, > you > should be pretty close: there's only ~3 miles of Panther Creek within SC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Matthews" <dialzero@bellsouth.net> > To: <sc-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <scedgefi-l@rootsweb.com>; <scbarnwe-l@rootsweb.com>; > <scaiken-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:24 PM > Subject: Re: [SCEDGEFI] Reading plats > > >> The plats you find in SC for this time period are going to be from the >> metes >> and bounds system. The numbers, ie. 63.46.20, are going to be chains (66 >> feet or 4 poles) / poles (16.5 feet or 25 links) / links (7.92 inches). >> Without some existing geographical marker (ie. a waterway or a big rock >> etc.) I don't know if you are going to have any success in knowing >> EXACTLY >> where the plat is. If the reference to Panther Creek is drawn precisely >> enough you should be able to get pretty close. The tree markers >> obviously >> won't be of much use since those are most likely long gone. >> >> What software are you using to plot the land? There are packages out >> there >> that plot metes and bounds. >> >> Regards >> Greg Matthews >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> >> To: <sc-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: <scedgefi-l@rootsweb.com>; <scbarnwe-l@rootsweb.com>; >> <scaiken-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:04 PM >> Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Reading plats >> >> >>> Can anyone out there help me a bit reading the old plats from the late >>> 1700's in Cheraw Dist, SC? I have similar ones in Edgefiedl and >>> Barnwell. >>> >>> They are drawn with references such as NE 63.46.20 on one boundry line, >>> SE 47.23 on the next, SW 41.25 next, SE 49.40 next, SW 82.28, NW >>> 80.12.34, >>> SW 85.30 and lastly SW 25.33. >>> >>> This is an odly shaped plat of 207 Acres. Below that is says 206 and >>> something I can't read at all. Corners are a black circle with Pine 3x0 >>> or >>> Post Oak 3x0, etc. Other trees are marked, such at the edge of Panther >>> Creek. >>> >>> No where do I see a distance. I tried plotting that with the plotting >>> software, but didn't get the same form. Sort of but one line didn't go >>> right at all. Are the NE 63.46.20 type notations degrees and minutes? Or >>> is something else included there. >>> >>> All help appreciated. I have several plots I need to locate and the >>> landmarks aren't enough. Perhaps I will have to expand my number of >>> plats. >>> Someone posted a link the other day to a site showing lots of Old Ninety >>> 6 >>> plats. I accidentally deleated that. Could someone send it again. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Carolyn Brown > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCEDGEFI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ne 63.46.20 would probably not be the latitude and longitude. I have a copy of a land plat or land deed in Fairfield and it was very irregular, due the terrain of the area. Most of land in South Carolina seems to border water on its boundaries. Is there a reference to a stream, creek or waterway? Wikipedia states A plat is a map, drawn to scale, showing how a piece of land is divided into lots with streets and alleys, usually for the purpose of selling the described lots; this is known as subdivision. After a plat is filed, legal descriptions can refer to lot numbers rather than portions of sections. Plats can also legally dedicate land for road and other rights-of-way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plat SURVEYING PRACTICES IN EARLY SOUTH CAROLINA by Louise Pettus http://www.surveyhistory.org/south_carolina_early_surveying_history.htm The English settlement of South Carolina dates back to 1670. Surveyors have been involved and a part of South Carolina's growth and associated pains since. In 1670, the streets of Charles Town settlement covered only nine acres and was surrounded by water on three sides. The Lords Proprietors, eight in number, received a grant of what is now North and South Carolina from the King of England. An elaborate plan of government and land settlement was worked out in England by the famous philosopher, John Locke. For over forty years, the colonial surveyors, who worked out of Charles Town, were affected by the decisions of the English philosopher who never set eyes on Carolina. The first settlers obtained title to the land only after going through a cumbersome process. The settler would appear before the governor and the Council to make a request for the land. The governor would then issue a warrant for the land. The warrant was taken to the secretary who recorded it. The warrant was an order to the surveyor general to make a plat of the land. The surveyor general drew up a plat and a "return of survey". The settler took these papers to the secretary who would check them against the original record and then certify the plat. A copy of the certified plat was recorded and the original plat was given to the prospective grantee. The secretary then drew up a "sealed grant" which had to be taken to the governor and to the council for their signatures. Finally, the land grant was recorded in an official register. All of the registration had to occur within ninety days of receiving the plat or the grant was void. The above article is online and may interest you. Some plats are available: http://www2.charlestoncounty.org/ If you find out if the numbers are map references or something else, maybe you could let us know. Best of luck, Gaila

The plats you find in SC for this time period are going to be from the metes and bounds system. The numbers, ie. 63.46.20, are going to be chains (66 feet or 4 poles) / poles (16.5 feet or 25 links) / links (7.92 inches). Without some existing geographical marker (ie. a waterway or a big rock etc.) I don't know if you are going to have any success in knowing EXACTLY where the plat is. If the reference to Panther Creek is drawn precisely enough you should be able to get pretty close. The tree markers obviously won't be of much use since those are most likely long gone. What software are you using to plot the land? There are packages out there that plot metes and bounds. Regards Greg Matthews ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <cpink@flash.net> To: <sc-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: <scedgefi-l@rootsweb.com>; <scbarnwe-l@rootsweb.com>; <scaiken-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Reading plats > Can anyone out there help me a bit reading the old plats from the late > 1700's in Cheraw Dist, SC? I have similar ones in Edgefiedl and Barnwell. > > They are drawn with references such as NE 63.46.20 on one boundry line, > SE 47.23 on the next, SW 41.25 next, SE 49.40 next, SW 82.28, NW 80.12.34, > SW 85.30 and lastly SW 25.33. > > This is an odly shaped plat of 207 Acres. Below that is says 206 and > something I can't read at all. Corners are a black circle with Pine 3x0 or > Post Oak 3x0, etc. Other trees are marked, such at the edge of Panther > Creek. > > No where do I see a distance. I tried plotting that with the plotting > software, but didn't get the same form. Sort of but one line didn't go > right at all. Are the NE 63.46.20 type notations degrees and minutes? Or > is something else included there. > > All help appreciated. I have several plots I need to locate and the > landmarks aren't enough. Perhaps I will have to expand my number of plats. > Someone posted a link the other day to a site showing lots of Old Ninety 6 > plats. I accidentally deleated that. Could someone send it again. > > Thanks, > Carolyn Brown > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCEDGEFI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone out there help me a bit reading the old plats from the late 1700's in Cheraw Dist, SC? I have similar ones in Edgefiedl and Barnwell. They are drawn with references such as NE 63.46.20 on one boundry line, SE 47.23 on the next, SW 41.25 next, SE 49.40 next, SW 82.28, NW 80.12.34, SW 85.30 and lastly SW 25.33. This is an odly shaped plat of 207 Acres. Below that is says 206 and something I can't read at all. Corners are a black circle with Pine 3x0 or Post Oak 3x0, etc. Other trees are marked, such at the edge of Panther Creek. No where do I see a distance. I tried plotting that with the plotting software, but didn't get the same form. Sort of but one line didn't go right at all. Are the NE 63.46.20 type notations degrees and minutes? Or is something else included there. All help appreciated. I have several plots I need to locate and the landmarks aren't enough. Perhaps I will have to expand my number of plats. Someone posted a link the other day to a site showing lots of Old Ninety 6 plats. I accidentally deleated that. Could someone send it again. Thanks, Carolyn Brown

The following were copied from the microfilm copy of the original Death Certificate, located at the Camden Archives & Museum, Camden, SC. ----------------------------------------------------- 1929 Death Cert. #1126, Greenwood Co, SC Joseph S. Butler Male, White, married, Farmer & merchant b. Feb. 28, 1856, GA , age 72 yr, 11 mo, 0 ds father: Melton Butler, GA mother: Martha Cook, GA d. Jan 28, 1929, Greenwood, Greenwood Co, SC cause: carcinoma of stomach informant: Mrs. J. S. Butler, Greenwood, SC buried: Siloam Church, Jan 29, 1929 UT: W. _ Blyth, Greenwood, SC HC has the following: Joseph S. (Joe) Butler b. 6/1855 SC, m.1. _ , 2. Sudie E. S. Fooshe (b. 7/2/1857 Edgefield SC, d. 1/24/1930) Siloam Bapt Greenwood SC, 1895 Abbeville SC)[1900][1910][1920] Sudie m.1. William Stanmore Norris ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1917 Death Cert. #4393, Dorchester Co, SC Patrick A. Norris Male, White, Single, Farmer b. no mo. or day, 1893, Newberry Co, SC, age 23 father: (Abriey / Alricy) Norris, Newberry, SC mother: Lucy E. Hargrove, Newberry, SC d. Feb. 26, 1917, Burus twp, Dorchester co. SC cause: La Grippe informant: (P) H. Hargrove, Ridgeville, SC buried: Newberry, SC, Feb. 27, 1917 UT: says NONE, not just blank. Randy, I double checked the date of death, and the DC is definitely Feb. 26, not the 23rd. I have a Lucy Hargrove, daughter of James Hargrove and Sarah Adams. Estimated dates from one known date in the family seems to make my Lucy too old to be his mother. But maybe they connect. The Hargroves I have connect to the family of Charles Carter md. Lydia Scurry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1936 - Death Cert. 7647, Greenwood Co, SC Mrs. Lizzie Burnett Female, White, Widow, lived Greenwood, SC b. Jan 28, 1858, SC age 78/3/17 father: Daniel Butler, SC mother: Sallie Longshore, SC d. May 12, 1936, Greenwood, Greenwood Co, SC cause: generalized arterosclerosis; chronic Myocarditis; chr. __ nephritis, informant: R. M. Holsenback, South Greenwood, SC buried: (Good Hope) [if one did not know the area, it would be unrecognizable], May 13, 1936 UT: Blyth's Services, Greenwood, SC Looks like the information in the cem. records I have were listed backward with her dates for him, and his for her. When I changed the dates to fit the person, I get the following from the cemetery Records of Good Hope Baptist, Saluda Co, SC, but her birthdate still differs by day of birth from the transcription I was sent. I have R. O.'s DC too, and you should have it, as I have posted it before. Burnett, [Richard Oliver] R. O. Nov 20 1859 Dec 14 1927 Burnett, Mary E. [Elizabeth (Lizzie) BUTLER] Jan 15 1858 May 12 1936 Parents are buried there too: Butler, Daniel M. [Mangum] Mar 21 1838 May 13 1911 Butler, [Sarah] Sallie E. [DAVENPORT] Feb 10 1836 Feb 21 1910 I found Lizzie Butler in the 1870 census with her parents. He is listed incorrectly as 21, rather than 31 and they are in Newberry Co, Floyds twp #6, Newberry CH PO, p. 562B, hh# 278/178 written over 281/281 ---------------------------------------------------- 1939 - Death Cert. #10509, Saluda Co, SC M. L. Butler, Jr. Male, White, home address Saluda, SC b. 1 day old, SC father: M. L. Butler, Sr, SC mother: Cathleen Leopard, SC d. June 16, 1939, Coleman's #5, Saluda Co, SC cause: not given - No Dr. written in. informant: G. J. Leopard, Saluda, SC buried: Good Hope, Jan 17, 1939 UT: Mrs. R. L. Ramey, Saluda, SC Randy Butler calls him Emmanuel Lee Butler, DOD: 6/16/1939, Saluda, #10509, and this seems to fit. According the the identifications in the Good Hope Baptist church cem. records sent to me by HC, all of these Children belong to Kathleen LEOPARD & M. L. (Manly) Butler, Sr. So the Manley many be short for Emmanuel. Butler, M. L., Jr. No birth date - d. 1939 Butler, Leon 1940 - 1941 Butler, Joseph No birth date - d. 1942 Butler, Gladys No birth date - d. 1945 [Butler, Marion] No birth date - d. [1951] There is an Emanuel Lee Butler, Oct 15 1889 - Mar 17 1978 buried in Chestnut Hill Bapt, Saluda Co, SC. along with the following folks. I don't know if they connect to the M. L. Butler or the Manley Butler that I have b. ca 1891 son of James and Alice Vivian Butler. Chestnut Hill Bapt, Saluda Co, SC - Butler, Richard L. Mar 23 1923 - Apr 11 1971 Butler, Annie Belle BOWLES Nov 9 1899 - Sep 9 1973 Butler, Luther Milledge Oct 30 1895 - Oct 21 1960 Butler, Dora [Feb 1858] - Jan 5 1935 [DC] Butler, Milledge Butler, Fannie B. Feb 26 1890 - Sep 17 1978 Butler, Emanuel Lee Oct 15 1889 - Mar 17 1978 ---------------------------------------- 1930 - Death Cert. #4344, Greenwood Co, SC J. J. Leopard Male, White, married, Farmer b. August 23, 1866, SC age 63/6/5 father: Ben Leopard, SC mother: Hettie Leopard, SC d. March 12, 1930, City of Greenwood, Saluda twp, Greenwood Co, SC cause: Chr. (Inter) Nephritis; arteriosclerosis informant: Hettie Leopard, Saluda, SC buried: Saluda, Mar 13, 1930 UT: Howard B. Ellis, Greenwood, SC He is also buried at Good Hope Baptist with wife and a son. Leopard, James Johnson [(John)] Aug 23 1866 Mar 12 1930 Leopard, Susie Savannah Oct 25 1866 May 30 1946 Leopard, J. Ira Jul 21 1889 Sep 13 1959 A Mrs. James Ira Leopard is the informant on the DC of Susie Savannah Leopard.

Found these 3 Death Certificate not checked off in my notebook, so don't know if I ever sent them to the list or not. Excuse the duplication if I did. Better to be sure than not send what someone might can use. Billie Jones ---------------------------------------- 1934 - Death Cert. #0044, Aiken Co, SC R. W. Rearden Male White, foreman/textile plant, md to Mrs. Maude Smith Rearden b. AD 1888, 46 yrs old father: B. J. Rearden, Graniteville, SC mother: Catherine Prince, Graniteville, SC d. Jan 1, 1934, Schultz twp, Aiken Co, SC cause: heart disease; arteriosclerosis (onset 1932) informant: R. B. Rearden, Bath, SC buried: Bath, SC UT: D. M. George, Aiken, SC He and his wife and other family members are buried in Pine Grove Baptist Church, Bath, Aiken Co, SC per transcriptions of the tombstones sent to me by Jack Wood, j57ewood@bellsouth.net. Tombstone gives year of birth as 1887. ----------------------------------------------------- 1946 - Death Cert. #14943, Greenwood Co, SC Mrs. Kathleen Volbrath Butler Female, White, md to Mr. Pinkney Butler b. August 7, 1908, Elberton Co, GA father: George T. Volbrath, Elbertson Co, GA. mother: Emma Milhurt, Elberton Co, GA d. March 22, 1946, Ninety-Six, Greenwood Co, SC cause: carcinoma of the thyroid; metastisis of the lungs. informant: Mr. Pinkney Butler, Ninety-Six, SC buried: Elmwood UT: Blyths Services Elmwood Cem. Records, Greenwood Co, SC Butler, Kathleen VOLLRATH Aug 7 1908 - Mar 22 1946 Butler, Infant Daughter ---- - Mar 27 1937 Husband given by HC Ouzts and Randy Butler as Alfred Pinkney Butler. I cannot find him in cem. records. ------------------------------------------ 1934 - Death Cert. #20491, Richland Co, SC Mrs. Nettie Aloner Rearden Female, White, Divorced, Spinner/textile mill b. Sept 5, 1899, Aiken Co, SC father: John Edwards (Beings), GA mother: Cornelia Harriett [Attaway], Barnwell Co, SC d. Dec. 1, 1934, City State Park, Blythwood, Richland Co, SC cause: Pulmonary TB informant: Mrs. W. L. Fitzgerald, Graniteville, SC buried: Graniteville, SC UT: J. M. Posey & Son, Graniteville, SC She is buried in Graniteville Cem. next to a James Richard Walling family: Rearden, Nettie Sep 5 1899 - Dec 1 1934 The State TB Hospital was located at State Park, in the vicinity of where the new SC State archives is located, if I am remembering correctly what someone told me a while back .

For information: I don't know anything about this information other than the Gooch and Hart names are both found in Old Edgefield Dist. The following mentions Edgefield and the surname Gooch. It was in a message that was forwarded to me thru the PML Digest because of my key search word, Edgefield. Note that this info. says Edgefield Co. NC. There is an Edgecomb Co NC I think, but not Edgefield. I have seen Edgefield and Edgecomb names confused by states before. more information was at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/4162/goochcaswell.html Descendants of John Sneed 1 John SNEED b: June 27, 1739 VA d: September 6, 1793 Edgefield CO, NC . +Mary GOOCH m: March 25, 1765 Hanover CO, VA Father: James Gooch Mother: Keziah Ann Hart b: May 30, 1745 d: December 15, 1842 . 2 Janey SNEED b: Aft. 1765 ..... +James COBB . 2 Nathaniel SNEED b: October 1766 d: November 30, 1772 . 2 Frankey SNEED b: August 29, 1768 d: November 24, 1772 . 2 Mary/Molly SNEAD b: Aft. 1765 ..... +Benjamin HART, Jr. Father: Benjamin Hart Mother: Ann NANCY Morgan b: 1762 . 2 Sicily SNEED b: Aft. 1765 ..... +Thomas HART . 2 John Gooch SNEED b: Aft. 1765 ..... +Martha (Mrs.) MCINTOSH . 2 William Claiborne SNEED b: Aft. 1765 . 2 Nathaniel SNEED b: Aft. 1765 . 2 Tilman SNEED b: Aft. 1765 . 2 Lavinia SNEED b: Aft. 1765 ..... +Samuel DUNWOODY . 2 Susan Poindexter SNEED b: Aft. 1765 ..... +John GLASS . 2 Keziah Hart SNEED b: 1782 d: Bef. 1817 ..... +William LAMPKIN b: April 6, 1778 Dooly County,GA d: 1845 Tylertown,Pike (now Walthall) Co.,MS) .... 3 Sampson Lewis LAMPKIN b: 1802 Harrisburg,GA d: 1875 pike CO, Miss ........ +Narcissa SESSIONS m: 1828 Pike CO, Miss b: 1812 washington CO, GA .... 3 Jeremiah LAMPKIN b: 1801 d: 1849 ........ +MARY .... 3 John Tillman LAMPKIN b: 1811 Augusta, GA d: 1870 Holmesville,Pike County,Mississippi ........ +Thurza Ann KILGORE

My apology to all. I was looking at an old file, not verified. You are correct. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Constance T McNeill To: scedgefi@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Alexander Edmunds Drew, are you sure Alexander Edmunds married Lydia Cogburn.? According to the historical marker several miles west of McCormick on Highway 378, the first member of the Edmunds family who came to S.C. was Alexander Edmunds, born in 1763 in Virginia. His wife was Lydia Calhoun and they were parents of Samuel Calhoun Edmunds, Born 6 December 1793 and Died 6 June 1859 near McCormick. He was married 3 times and the father of 16 children. Connie > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:36:41 -0400 >From: "Drew Welch" <dwelch@alltel.net> >Subject: [SCEDGEFI] John - Alexander Edmunds >To: "Edgefield List" <SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <025601c796e5$4f6d9f90$01fea8c0@yourb27fb1c401> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) > >Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia > > > >(This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.) > > > >Amherst County, Virginia Will Book 2: 181-182 > > > >In the name of God amen. I John Edmonds of Amherst County being - sound in mind & although weak of body knowing the uncertainty of life make this my last will & testament recommending my soul to almighty God the Father of Spirits and my body to be buried accrding to the rights of the church in hopes of a blessed resurrection through the merits of Jesus Christ. My desire is that all my just debts of what hand so __ be paid, In turn I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Mary Edmunds my whole estate during her natural life at the decease of my wife Mary Edmunds I give & bequeath unto my son James Edmonds all my lands & my negro man Pompey, one horse, two cows, one bed an furniture, and all my using tools, one black walnut table, one -- & half my pewter to him and his heirs forever. Item- after the death of my wife Mary Edmunds my desire is that the balance of my estate be sold at auction & equally divided between my children Samuel Edmonds, Elizabeth Ballew, Sarah Woodrough ! > to them & their heirs forever, I appoint Moses Campbell & Ambrose Campbell, execs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this thirteenth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & Eighty two. > > John + Edmonds (his mark). > >Test. Igort Raines, Richard Batterworth, Alexander Edmunds. > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/07 10:47 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCEDGEFI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Drew, are you sure Alexander Edmunds married Lydia Cogburn.? According to the historical marker several miles west of McCormick on Highway 378, the first member of the Edmunds family who came to S.C. was Alexander Edmunds, born in 1763 in Virginia. His wife was Lydia Calhoun and they were parents of Samuel Calhoun Edmunds, Born 6 December 1793 and Died 6 June 1859 near McCormick. He was married 3 times and the father of 16 children. Connie > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:36:41 -0400 >From: "Drew Welch" <dwelch@alltel.net> >Subject: [SCEDGEFI] John - Alexander Edmunds >To: "Edgefield List" <SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <025601c796e5$4f6d9f90$01fea8c0@yourb27fb1c401> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) > >Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia > > > >(This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.) > > > >Amherst County, Virginia Will Book 2: 181-182 > > > >In the name of God amen. I John Edmonds of Amherst County being - sound in mind & although weak of body knowing the uncertainty of life make this my last will & testament recommending my soul to almighty God the Father of Spirits and my body to be buried accrding to the rights of the church in hopes of a blessed resurrection through the merits of Jesus Christ. My desire is that all my just debts of what hand so __ be paid, In turn I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Mary Edmunds my whole estate during her natural life at the decease of my wife Mary Edmunds I give & bequeath unto my son James Edmonds all my lands & my negro man Pompey, one horse, two cows, one bed an furniture, and all my using tools, one black walnut table, one -- & half my pewter to him and his heirs forever. Item- after the death of my wife Mary Edmunds my desire is that the balance of my estate be sold at auction & equally divided between my children Samuel Edmonds, Elizabeth Ballew, Sarah Woodrough ! > to them & their heirs forever, I appoint Moses Campbell & Ambrose Campbell, execs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this thirteenth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & Eighty two. > > John + Edmonds (his mark). > >Test. Igort Raines, Richard Batterworth, Alexander Edmunds. > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/07 10:47 AM

Hi Dot, Thank you very much for the information. Here are the children of Richard Furman Whittle if you want them. Information is from family and from Our Saluda Ancestors. Mary Haseltine Matthews Whittle was my grandfather's mother. My grandmother had a little notebook and had Mary's date of birth and death. One of my cousins remembers some of these people. My grandfather was William Furman Whittle so may be named after William Garrett and Richard Furman. Thanks again, Brenda Descendants of Richard Furman Matthews Generation No. 1 1. RICHARD FURMAN3 MATTHEWS (WILLIAM GARRETT2, RICHARD1) was born Feb 14, 1830 in South Carolina, and died Jun 19, 1905 in Furman Matthews Cem, Saluda, SC. He married PERMELIA CAROLINE CLARKE, daughter of BENJAMIN CLARKE and SARAH HARDY. She was born Mar 17, 1831 in Georgia, and died Feb 14, 1908 in Furman Matthews Cem, Saluda, SC. Children of RICHARD MATTHEWS and PERMELIA CLARKE are: 2. i. MARY HASELTINE4 MATTHEWS, b. Sep 22, 1856, South Carolina; d. Dec 19, 1914, Batesburg Cemetery, Batesburg, SC. ii. JACKSON GARRETT MATTHEWS, b. Aug 13, 1858, South Carolina; m. (1) ELLA WEBB; m. (2) ANNIE ODEM. iii. SARAH IDA MATTHEWS, b. Jul 31, 1860, South Carolina; d. Jul 04, 1931, Furman Matthews Cemetery; m. J STARR LAKE; b. Oct 13, 1857; d. Aug 09, 1917. iv. JOSEPH BENJAMIN MATTHEWS, b. Feb 20, 1862, South Carolina; m. LENNA BUZHARDT. v. JULIA ANN PERMELIA MATTHEWS, b. Mar 17, 1864, South Carolina; d. Jun 09, 1951, Furman Matthews Cemetery; m. THOMAS JEFFERSON GOFF; b. Feb 01, 1862; d. Mar 24, 1929, Furman Matthews Cemetery. vi. GEORGE WILLIAM MATTHEWS, b. Mar 15, 1866, South Carolina; m. ROXANNA POLK. vii. SAMUEL TILLMAN MATTHEWS, b. May 18, 1868, South Carolina; m. (1) SALLIE BRITT; m. (2) LIZZIE MOORE. viii. JAMES FURMAN MATTHEWS, b. Dec 13, 1870, South Carolina; m. (1) STELLA DELAUGHTER; m. (2) ALMA HIGHTOWER. ix. SUSAN ELIZABETH MATTHEWS, b. May 23, 1872, South Carolina; d. Sep 12, 1953, Sardis Baptist Church Cemetery; m. ANDREW PICKENS LAKE; b. Dec 02, 1865; d. May 21, 1942, Sardis Baptist Church Cemetery. x. NANCY EMELENE MATTHEWS, b. Feb 04, 1875, South Carolina; d. Feb 14, 1961, Furman Matthews Cemetery; m. COLUMBUS C LONG; b. Sep 09, 1871; d. Nov 08, 1944, Furman Matthews Cemetery. Generation No. 2 2. MARY HASELTINE4 MATTHEWS (RICHARD FURMAN3, WILLIAM GARRETT2, RICHARD1) was born Sep 22, 1856 in South Carolina, and died Dec 19, 1914 in Batesburg Cemetery, Batesburg, SC. She married LEVI BURDETTE WHITTLE, son of WILLIAM WHITTLE and BETHANY WHITTLE. He was born Sep 06, 1853 in South Carolina, and died 1924 in Batesburg Cemetery, Batesburg, SC. Children of MARY MATTHEWS and LEVI WHITTLE are: i. JAMES BENJAMIN5 WHITTLE, b. Dec 26, 1876, South Carolina; d. Nov 10, 1935, Batesburg Cemetery, Batesburg,SC. ii. LAURA ELLA WHITTLE, b. Oct 02, 1879, South Carolina; d. Dec 24, 1906, Furman Matthews Cem, Saluda, SC. iii. ROSIE LEE WHITTLE, b. May 22, 1881, South Carolina; d. Dec 01, 1956, Ridge Crest Cem, Batesburg, SC. iv. MARY PERMILLIA WHITTLE, b. Apr 01, 1884, South Carolina; d. Jan 24, 1903, Furman Matthews Cem, Saluda, SC. v. WILLIAM FURMAN WHITTLE, b. Jul 31, 1886, South Carolina; d. Aug 31, 1982, Greenlawn Mem Pk, Columbia, SC. vi. JULIA GENEVA WHITTLE, b. Oct 1890, South Carolina; d. 1947, Ridge Springs Cemetery, SC. vii. ANNIE VERDELIA WHITTLE, b. Apr 08, 1895, South Carolina; d. Sep 22, 1983, Tennessee.

Hi Dot, I just read Billie's email about the information on William Garrett Matthews. I am descended through the first William Garrett Matthews through his son, Richard Furman Matthews and Richard's daughter, Mary Haseltine Matthews. I would appreciate it if you would send me the information too. Thank you Brenda

I'm not sure about the migration of these folks. John is my line, but not James (father of Alexander). I just knew that Alexander had Edgefield connections. ----- Original Message ----- From: cfurth@earthlink.net To: Drew Welch Cc: Edgefield List Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCEDGEFI] John - Alexander Edmunds Would you please share the migration path from Amherst Co., VA to Edgefield, SC of this EDMUNDS family? Thank you. On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:36:41 -0400, you wrote: >The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) > >Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia > >(This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.)

Dot, Thank you for the William Garrett Matthews info. I had hoped you would receive this message as a reply to your email address which is coming thru as dt1533@comcast.net , without me having to send the thank you thru the list. Didn't happen....I am sending again thru the list. Are you sure you don't have a block on your email or are you still having problems with your email. It will take me a while to go over the Matthews information as we are putting out our Friends of the Camden Archives newsletter this week and I have to line up the volunteers, print out the labels, etc, then label and sort for mailing. Life just seems to interfer with genealogy! Billie

Dear Mr. Welch, There is a book on these Edmunds, if you do not already have a copy. EDMUNDS HISTORY 1710-1971 By Mary W. Edmunds. 321 Thomas Avenue, Thomson, Georgia 30824. She could be deceased by now. I think I got my copy from the author; I have had my copy a long time. Yellow hardcover approximately 5"X 9." No publication date or printer. 65 page plus an index. Lots of names and no places or dates of later more recent generations. It has the will of your query. I don't remember how I found out about this book or how long I have had it. Possibly I found out about it through the old FAMILY PUZZLERS GENEALOGY MAGAZINE probably after 1980. Definitely pre-internet! I have found no connection with these Virginia and mainly South Carolina Edmunds and my Edmonds (various Spellings) line from Francis Edmonds and Rachel _?_ who migrated from the Bannister River area of Halifax County, Virgnia, to Wilkes County, Georgia, c. 1784. He died with a will in Wilkes County, Georgia, in 1799. He first appeared in Halifax County, Virgnia, c. 1768. I am originally from Georgia and my Edmonds line stayed at Rayle, Wilkes County, Georgia, while others migrated west. Descendants with the Edmonds surname now live in Greene County, Georgia, and other places west. I have a separate GEDCOM just on this Edmonds family. Two of Francis's and Rachel's daughters married Baileys also from Halifax County, Virginia. Vivian Cates, S H 21 West, Alto, Texas 75925 http://www.inu.net/vcates 1-936-858-3801 -----Original Message----- From: scedgefi-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scedgefi-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Drew Welch Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:37 AM To: Edgefield List Subject: [SCEDGEFI] John - Alexander Edmunds The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia (This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.) Amherst County, Virginia Will Book 2: 181-182 In the name of God amen. I John Edmonds of Amherst County being - sound in mind & although weak of body knowing the uncertainty of life make this my last will & testament recommending my soul to almighty God the Father of Spirits and my body to be buried accrding to the rights of the church in hopes of a blessed resurrection through the merits of Jesus Christ. My desire is that all my just debts of what hand so __ be paid, In turn I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Mary Edmunds my whole estate during her natural life at the decease of my wife Mary Edmunds I give & bequeath unto my son James Edmonds all my lands & my negro man Pompey, one horse, two cows, one bed an furniture, and all my using tools, one black walnut table, one -- & half my pewter to him and his heirs forever. Item- after the death of my wife Mary Edmunds my desire is that the balance of my estate be sold at auction & equally divided between my children Samuel Edmonds, Elizabeth Ballew, Sarah Woodrough ! to them & their heirs forever, I appoint Moses Campbell & Ambrose Campbell, execs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this thirteenth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & Eighty two. John + Edmonds (his mark). Test. Igort Raines, Richard Batterworth, Alexander Edmunds. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCEDGEFI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would you please share the migration path from Amherst Co., VA to Edgefield, SC of this EDMUNDS family? Thank you. On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:36:41 -0400, you wrote: >The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) > >Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia > >(This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.)

The Will of John Edmunds (ca 1710-1784) Will dated: 13 December 1782, Amherst County, Virginia (This John Edmunds was the grandfather of Alexander Edmunds who died in Edgefield District on 9 March 1823 and who married Lidia Cogburn. Alexander's father was James Edmunds. The will was transcribed by Stan Edmunds and shared with his permission.) Amherst County, Virginia Will Book 2: 181-182 In the name of God amen. I John Edmonds of Amherst County being - sound in mind & although weak of body knowing the uncertainty of life make this my last will & testament recommending my soul to almighty God the Father of Spirits and my body to be buried accrding to the rights of the church in hopes of a blessed resurrection through the merits of Jesus Christ. My desire is that all my just debts of what hand so __ be paid, In turn I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Mary Edmunds my whole estate during her natural life at the decease of my wife Mary Edmunds I give & bequeath unto my son James Edmonds all my lands & my negro man Pompey, one horse, two cows, one bed an furniture, and all my using tools, one black walnut table, one -- & half my pewter to him and his heirs forever. Item- after the death of my wife Mary Edmunds my desire is that the balance of my estate be sold at auction & equally divided between my children Samuel Edmonds, Elizabeth Ballew, Sarah Woodrough to them & their heirs forever, I appoint Moses Campbell & Ambrose Campbell, execs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this thirteenth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & Eighty two. John + Edmonds (his mark). Test. Igort Raines, Richard Batterworth, Alexander Edmunds.

Obituary of Alfred Ben Coleman, "The State", Columbia, SC published May 14, 2007. SALUDA - Alfred Ben Coleman, 87, entered into rest Saturday, May 12, 2007 in Greenwood, SC. Mr. Coleman was born September 13, 1919 in Saluda, SC, son of the late Andrew Thornton Coleman and Carrie McCarty Coleman. He is survived by his wife of 61 years, Lucille Glenn Coleman. He is also survived by two sons, Richard Coleman of Greenwood, SC and Mike Coleman (Mary) of Aiken, SC., four grandchildren, Lacy Gilbert of Greenwood, SC, Yates Coleman of Mt. Pleasant, SC, Katherine Coleman of Clemson, SC and William Coleman of Aiken, SC. and one great-granddaughter, Laney Gilbert of Greenwood, SC. Alfred was pre-deceased by twin infant daughters, Leigh and Lyn, sisters, Grace Coleman Force, Sophie Coleman Shaw, Georgia Coleman Martin as well as brothers, Andrew Preston Coleman, Daniel Bumpus Coleman, and William Randolph Coleman. Alfred served in the Army during World War II and upon his return graduated from Clemson University in 1948. He was a member of Saluda Baptist Church where he was a former Deacon. He owned and operated Farmer's Seed and Supply for 47 years in Saluda, SC. Alfred's service to Saluda also included 8 years as Mayor during the 1960's as well as Chairman of County Council for 10 years during the 1980's. In addition, he was a member of the Masonic Lodge, IPTAY, and the Lion's Club, recently receiving life time member recognition. Funeral Services for Alfred Coleman will be held 11:00 a.m. Monday, May 14, 2007 at Saluda Baptist Church in Saluda, SC followed by interment at Hickory Grove Cemetery. Visitation will be held from 5:00 p.m.-7:00 p.m. Sunday at the Ramey Funeral Home in Saluda, SC. In lieu of flowers, the family requests memorials be made to the Saluda Baptist Church in Saluda, SC. ------------------------------------------ I checked my files to see if I had him, but don't work on Colemans. However, I did have this very early Thornton Coleman that makes me wonder if this Afred Ben Coleman whose father was Thornton might be connected to the family. Hope someone can use it. I gathered the information while working on the Nicholson line that attaches below. 1 Thornton Coleman b: Abt. 1792 .. +Dorothy Unknown ..... 2 Emily Coleman b: Abt. 1823 ......... +Lanson Nicholson b: in Edgefield Dist., SC m: Apr 21, 1841 in Edgefield Dist, SC Father: Urban NICHOLSON ............ 3 Urban Coleman Nicholson b: Jan 16, 1845 d: May 08, 1927 Burial: Salem Baptist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ................ +Julia A. L. Clark b: Dec 07, 1845 m: Aft. 1860 d: Nov 17, 1928 Burial: Salem Baptist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC Father: Ellington CLARK Mother: ELIZABETH .................... 4 Sally Nicholson b: Abt. 1867 .................... 4 Eily Nicholson b: Abt. 1868 .................... 4 Mary Nicholson b: Oct 07, 1870 d: Sep 04, 1958 Burial: Salem Baptist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ........................ +Joseph Elzy Boozer b: Nov 15, 1867 d: Jul 25, 1932 Burial: Salem Baptist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC .................... 4 Clark Nicholson b: Abt. 1873 .................... 4 Ella Nicholson b: Abt. 1876 .................... 4 John D. Nicholson b: Abt. 1878 .................... 4 Paul Lansing Nicholson b: Jul 11, 1881 in Edgefield Co, Saluda Area, SC d: Feb 11, 1949 in Saluda Co, SC Burial: Salem Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ........................ +Pearl Adams b: Nov 17, 1883 m: Bef. 1909 d: Oct 24, 1909 .................... *2nd Wife of Paul Lansing Nicholson: ........................ +Annie Emelise Wyatt b: Sep 16, 1888 in Calhoun, GA m: Aft. 1909 d: Jun 12, 1982 in Saluda Co, SC Burial: Salem Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC .................... 4 Joseph Nicholson b: Jul 1884 .................... 4 Samuel Nicholson b: Feb 1888 Sources: 1: I found Coleman Nicholson in the following HH in Edgefield Census records, transcription by Martha Jacobson, possibly grandparents: CENSUS: 1850 Edgefield Co, SC, the Districk, p. 188B, hh#458/458 Thornton Coleman 58 M Farmer $5000 NC Dorothy Coleman 52 F SC Coleman NICHOLSON 5 M SC John K. ABNEY 30 M Farmer, SC [HC Outzs indentifies them as the grandparents, parents of mother Emily Coleman who may be deceased. The 1850 census for father Ladson Nicholson has different name for wife] 2. Death Certificate, of U. C. Nicholson, 1927 Cert# 8218, Saluda Co, SC calls her _____ Coleman. (son) 3. Various Census records.

Has anyone worked on the families of William Walton and/or William Mills of this deed? Edgefield County, South Caroline Deed Book 31, p. 253. Buckner Thompson to William Walton, Deed 12 August 1812. $425. 170 acres where Buckner Thompson now lives including land said Buckner Thompson purchased of David Thompson & William Mills; also the land purchased of David W. Thompson adj E on Anderson's new road, W on Thomas Baker, S on William Parker, both sides Fudge's Mill Creek of Savannah River. Wit: David W. Thompson, Thomas Baker. Proven 31 Nov 1812 by Thos Baker, Rec 1 March 1813.

Dot, this came back to so am sending it thru the list. Billie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net> To: "dot Taylor" <dt1533@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: Re: sharing Tillman Matthews > Thanks you Dot. I agree with the sharing. Wish more folks would put > their official documents - probate, equity, guardian bonds, deeds, obits, > DCs. It sure would save time not having to look for them to verify the > information sent. > > Do you post your information to any of the Old Edgefield Dist lists: > SCEDGEFI; SCGREENWOOD; SCAIKEN; SCSALUDA; SC-Old96? > > Again, thank you for allowing me to share. > > Would you send me your postal address for my source citation to give you > credit for the research I use that you shared. > > I am Billie Jones, 2321 Moultrie Rd., Camden, SC 29020 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dot Taylor" <dt1533@comcast.net> > To: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net>; "Dot Taylor" > <dtaylor1533@comcast.net> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:47 AM > Subject: Tillman Matthews > > >> Yes Billie - you have my permission to share the information on any of >> the >> families I send. >> >> After all that is how we accomplish - putting together a History and >> Descendents - "By Sharing" >> >> Thank you for all the hard work you do.and I'm always willing to share - >> and >> welcome any help I can get. >> >> I am having the hardest time - getting my e-mail up and running - at >> first I >> couldn't send messages - now they are being returned - and it is not our >> fault - Comcast took over Road Runner - and almost everyone I've talked >> to >> is having problems. >> >> I'll check and see if I have any information on the Matthews prior to >> Tillman. >> >> >> >

I need help to determine if this obit contains the info. I need to connect him to the Ethel Still that I have in my file. I have in my files one Ethel Still b. Abt. 1891 d/o Abner Washington Still and Susan Harriett 'Hattie' Sample. Does anyone have proof that she is the same Ethel Still who is the mother listed in the obit of William Kinniard Allen? Billie Jones tjones@camden.net ------------------------------------------------ The following obituary was published in The State Newspaper, Columbia, SC FRIDAY, MARCH 9, 2007 William Kinniard Allen EDGEFIELD - Mr. William Kinniard Allen, 86, of Meeting St. Rd., died Wednesday 3-7-07 at his residence. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday at Edgefield First Baptist Church with burial in Eastview Cemetery. Mr. Allen was the son of the late Ethel Still and Steve Holland Allen. He graduated from Johnston High School and served in the Civil Conservation Corps and was a staff sergeant in the Army Air Force during World War II. He retired from Milliken after 35 years service. He was a member of the American Legion Hezzie Griffis Post #30 and the Edgefield First Baptist Church and the Men's Sunday School Class. Mr. Allen was an avid Gamecock fan, attending every home game for 20 years, and he had personally recorded the daily weather and local rainfall for the last 40 years. Mr. Allen is survived by his wife of 54 years, Jessie Parker (Becky) Allen, one son, William Greg Allen and his wife, Kathy; two grandchildren, Nicole and Jessica Allen, all of Edgefield. Mr. Allen was predeceased by two brothers, Steve and Lester Allen, and five sisters, Hannah Lewis, Mattie Morgan, Lena Cockrell, Mays Byrd and Rosa Bledsoe. The family is at the home and will receive friends from 6-7:30 p.m. Friday at Edgefield Mercantile Funeral Home. ----------------------------------- It mentions a predeceased brother Lester Allen: I have this Lester?? Is he the brother? 1 Lester Jones Allen b: Mar 01, 1911 d: Aug 17, 1983 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC .. +Geraldine Shaw b: Jun 17, 1914 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC Father: Joseph L. SHAW Mother: Lydia Catherine KEMP ......... 2 Joe Lester Allen ----------------------------------- I appreciate any help I might receive. Post to the list and others can benefit.