Is anyone researching the HATCHER,LANDRUM,CARPENTER, WHITLOCK,RANDAL, SWEARINGEN, and other related families in the area south of what became Trenton and the Pine Log House in Edgefield/Aiken Distric and/or Counties, South Carolina??? I also have a double TOOLE line in Barnwell as well. I triple post to all three lists because there was some migration back and forth before Aiken County was created. Some people are on one list and not the others. Can anyone tell me who the two little Carpenter boys were who are listed on the 1860 census of Edgefield District, South Carolina, with Amos Landrum??? The identity and relationship of John and Francis Carpenter in the estate records of the Hatchers has "stumped" me for years. Who were they and how were they related to the Hatchers? Have never been sure if Frances/Francis was male or female and whether John and France(i)s were husband and wife, brother and sister or just what??? They are in the Hatcher estate records and in the equity court records along with Alfred Hatcher, etc. 1860 census Edgefield District, South Carolina,written page 26, printed page 13, House #199/196, Lotts P. O. Jne 18, 1860. Amos Landrum 80 M $8500/5600 Farmer b. SC Betsey " 67 F b. SC Wm Carpenter 3 M b. SC Infant " In the printed/published copy copy of the 1860 census the name was transcribed "CarKeater", but the microfilm copy on Heritage Quest/Texshare sure looks more like Carpenter to me and is the more common name especially in that community. On the heritage Quest index Amos comes up as Landru"n." According to EDGEFIELD MARRIAGE RECORDS c. 1970 by Carlee T. McClendon Page 90 Amos Landrum married Elizabeth Hatcher, August 12, 1838 (Edgefield Advertiser). Elizabeth was the daughter of John Hatcher d.1825 and Christian _?_ b.c. 1773 Virginia d.c. 1852 Edgefield District, South Carolina. According to the 1850 census Amos & Elizabeth/Betsey had no children. If they did they ere deceased by the 1850 census. They were living with her widowed mother, Christian Hatcher. My Hatcher ancestor is Frances b. c. 1842, daughter of Alfred Hatcher, who apparently married James Whitlock c. 1864 d. mid-1870's. I am not researching the Landrum family. My main line is Carpenter and the others are branches from that line. Vivian Toole Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 1-936-858-3801 http://www.inu.net/vcates

I know serveral of Eddins came from around Edgefield South Carolina.Benjamin Eddins and a William.My 3 great grandmother was Elizabeth eddins ,she married William Wingard in South Carolina.They moved to Pike Co in 1820's.They name their son Benjamin.Does any one know what line she would be off of?The Wingard family was from lexington South Carolina. Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn

One other thing - if you are on a number of Rootsweb lists and you are not getting mail for 24 hours from just a few of those lists, it could be that a Rootsweb server is down and it will take awhile to catch up. If you want to check, go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ and look for notices in the Yellow Box. It might say List 5 is down for maintenance for 12 hours or List 5 is not working and we are looking into the problem. Regards, Gaila

If you think you may have gotten bounced from a Rootsweb list, you can go to Password Central and enter your email address. Then you will know which lists you are currently on. http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ You can also check the archives to see if your messages are making it to the lists. If you would like to visit the Archived messages of this list, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and type in the name of the list you would like to search and from there you can search by dates. If your posts are in the archives, then check your email address - make sure it hasn't been changed slightly by your ISP. Finally make sure that your ISP isn't holding or blocking your Rootsweb mail. Each subscriber needs to let their ISP know that Rootsweb mail is not spam. Best of luck, Gaila

Have you checked your Spam blocker? That can stop list mail, too. Elaine Oakes

I've run into the same problem. If anything interferes with your net-access (a power-outage, a hurricane, or anything like that) for 24 hours, you get bounced from the Lists. The easiest thing to do is to sign up again for the ones that you want. Nothing ever gets "lost"--it's still there on the List Archives. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Toole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:31 PM Subject: I NEED HELP FROM LIST ADM/ ANYONE ELSE MISSING MESSAGES??? > Dear List Adm. and members (Edgefield, Barnwell, Aiken), I seem to be missing messages from these lists and probably some others too that I don't kow about. I sent the following message to the lists about not getting any messages for about 24 hours from about 2 dozens lists in all which is very unusual. The messages never came back to me on the lists, but I got two answers. One for the person who had apparently originally asked for help in planning a trip from California to Edgefield and who might share a surname with me and another from another person (don't know which list???)who had noticed that her volume of mail had seemed to be considerably reduced as well. Any body have any ideas about the situation. How do I make my own posting to the list come back to me on the lists so that I will know they are getting out to people. I belong to location lists in Georgia as well and to a number of surname lists as well. I noticed this a few weeks ago, but then it seemed to correct itself. Now it seems to be showing up again. Is this my imagination??? Or is there a problem. No one else seems to have commented on it, etc. Is it a malfunction on the part of rootsweb or have I accidentially "clicked" something on my computer that I should not have clicked??? Any ideas out there??? Vivian Cates, Alto

Dear List Adm. and members (Edgefield, Barnwell, Aiken), I seem to be missing messages from these lists and probably some others too that I don't kow about. I sent the following message to the lists about not getting any messages for about 24 hours from about 2 dozens lists in all which is very unusual. The messages never came back to me on the lists, but I got two answers. One for the person who had apparently originally asked for help in planning a trip from California to Edgefield and who might share a surname with me and another from another person (don't know which list???)who had noticed that her volume of mail had seemed to be considerably reduced as well. Any body have any ideas about the situation. How do I make my own posting to the list come back to me on the lists so that I will know they are getting out to people. I belong to location lists in Georgia as well and to a number of surname lists as well. I noticed this a few weeks ago, but then it seemed to correct itself. Now it seems to be showing up again. Is this my imagination??? Or is there a problem. No one else seems to have commented on it, etc. Is it a malfunction on the part of rootsweb or have I accidentially "clicked" something on my computer that I should not have clicked??? Any ideas out there??? Vivian Cates, Alto -----Original Message----- From: Vivian Toole [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:01 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: SURNAMES, RESEARCH TRIP TIPS, ANY ROOTSWEB PROBLEMS Does anyone know of any problems with the Rootsweb e-mail surname/location lists? I am on maybe two dozen of the lists. I have not gotten any postings in roughly the last 24 hours which is highly unusual. Even on "slower" days I get around 10 of something and on "busier" days over 25 or so. I have checked with my local ISP provider and everything seems to be working. Test messages coming through from ISP and I can get on the Rootsweb home page, etc. On one of these South Carolina Lists (Barnwell, Aiken, Edgefield) someone in Dallas (Texas?) was recently asking for suggestions/information about getting ready for a research trip to South Carolina. I think it was on the Edgefield list if my memory serves me correctly. 1. Subscribe to at least two of these lists, if not all three. There was a lot more migration/marriage/estate buying of families back and forth than I have realized especially if they came and stayed for several generations and lived near the county line. Same idea would go for other bordering counties. 2. At South Carolina Archives, to save time, unless you just have to have a copy of that record to take with you or use the rest of your research visit, run a tab, write a check at the end of your research day/trip, and have the copies sent to you later. Don't waste your time trying to make all of your own copies. The SC staff can get better copies because they have more practice, etc. 3. At the courthouses hand copy the index references and then order the pages by mail from the SC archives. SC Archives will send the page copies if you have the reference pages, but they will not look up a lot fo "stuff" for you. Last time I got something it was 40 cents a page, but it may have gone up. Same thing goes for making copies at the three courthouses. Don't waste your time making your own copies in Edgefield at the courthouse from the microfilm or at the Tompkins library of the county records unless you just need a few pages to have to take with you for reference, etc. I have not been to the Aiken courthouse in years. For the Edgefield Courthouse you can no longer handle the early original records like we could back in the 1960's and 1970's. Everything is on microfilm, at least those I was researching were. When I was in the Barnwell courthouse about two years ago, I could handle the orginal records from the package and box numbers. Copy those right on the copy machine there which was a rather fast procedure. I was working mainly in the early records and estate office. Copies were cheaper, too, than the archives. In Barnwell District/County I have a double Toole line from Isaac Toole of the upper Three Runs area now in the Savannah River Project. All the cemeteries of that area have been done. There has been a book done on Ellenton and one on Myers Mill. Both I think out of print. Proof is lackling for the wives maiden names on my direct line. Isaac, Stephen b. c. 1780 d. 1863, Richard I. Manning Toole b. 1826, served in Company H 14th SC Inf. Private, d. 1895 buried in Magnolia Cemetery in Augusta, Richmond County, Georgia. I have a data base, genealogy program of a lot of related families. Manning moved to Georgia 1870-1875 (Oconee/Greene County) then back to Augfusta c. 180-1895. In Edgefield I am researching Carpenter and allied families from the Trenton area. All there by the 1790 census. Whitlock, Booth,Hatcher, Swearingen,Randel (various spellings)and maybe Christian and a Roberson/Robertson/Robinson, etc. Vivian Toole Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 1-936-858-3801 http;//www.inu.net/vcates

Hi all, I am new to the list and am in need of some guidance, please. I have a wayward ancestor who moved to SC from GA and died there about 1934. I am told by family he died in Johnston and was buried in Aiken or vice versa. Anything to make a long distance search a challenge! <g> I am wondering if there might be compiled tombstone inscriptions for either area and if so, would some kind soul please take a look for John Harvey (aka Johnny) McPETERS. He may possibly be listed as a Reverend. Thanks so much, Georgeanne McPeters

Does anyone know of any problems with the Rootsweb e-mail surname/location lists? I am on maybe two dozen of the lists. I have not gotten any postings in roughly the last 24 hours which is highly unusual. Even on "slower" days I get around 10 of something and on "busier" days over 25 or so. I have checked with my local ISP provider and everything seems to be working. Test messages coming through from ISP and I can get on the Rootsweb home page, etc. On one of these South Carolina Lists (Barnwell, Aiken, Edgefield) someone in Dallas (Texas?) was recently asking for suggestions/information about getting ready for a research trip to South Carolina. I think it was on the Edgefield list if my memory serves me correctly. 1. Subscribe to at least two of these lists, if not all three. There was a lot more migration/marriage/estate buying of families back and forth than I have realized especially if they came and stayed for several generations and lived near the county line. Same idea would go for other bordering counties. 2. At South Carolina Archives, to save time, unless you just have to have a copy of that record to take with you or use the rest of your research visit, run a tab, write a check at the end of your research day/trip, and have the copies sent to you later. Don't waste your time trying to make all of your own copies. The SC staff can get better copies because they have more practice, etc. 3. At the courthouses hand copy the index references and then order the pages by mail from the SC archives. SC Archives will send the page copies if you have the reference pages, but they will not look up a lot fo "stuff" for you. Last time I got something it was 40 cents a page, but it may have gone up. Same thing goes for making copies at the three courthouses. Don't waste your time making your own copies in Edgefield at the courthouse from the microfilm or at the Tompkins library of the county records unless you just need a few pages to have to take with you for reference, etc. I have not been to the Aiken courthouse in years. For the Edgefield Courthouse you can no longer handle the early original records like we could back in the 1960's and 1970's. Everything is on microfilm, at least those I was researching were. When I was in the Barnwell courthouse about two years ago, I could handle the orginal records from the package and box numbers. Copy those right on the copy machine there which was a rather fast procedure. I was working mainly in the early records and estate office. Copies were cheaper, too, than the archives. In Barnwell District/County I have a double Toole line from Isaac Toole of the upper Three Runs area now in the Savannah River Project. All the cemeteries of that area have been done. There has been a book done on Ellenton and one on Myers Mill. Both I think out of print. Proof is lackling for the wives maiden names on my direct line. Isaac, Stephen b. c. 1780 d. 1863, Richard I. Manning Toole b. 1826, served in Company H 14th SC Inf. Private, d. 1895 buried in Magnolia Cemetery in Augusta, Richmond County, Georgia. I have a data base, genealogy program of a lot of related families. Manning moved to Georgia 1870-1875 (Oconee/Greene County) then back to Augfusta c. 180-1895. In Edgefield I am researching Carpenter and allied families from the Trenton area. All there by the 1790 census. Whitlock, Booth,Hatcher, Swearingen,Randel (various spellings)and maybe Christian and a Roberson/Robertson/Robinson, etc. Vivian Toole Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 1-936-858-3801 http;//www.inu.net/vcates

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Please excuse the cross-posting - does anyone have any MATHIS/MATTHEWS + BRYANT connections that went from Edgefield to Autauga County, AL and then on to Shelby/Talladega County, AL? The 1846 records of the Tallasahatchie Baptist Church, Talladega County, have information on Deacon Elias MATHIS born Feb. 19, 1810 in the Edgefield District, SC. There is also a record of Elizabeth BRYANT (whose maiden name I believe to be MATHIS) transferring her membership from New Hope Baptist Church in Autauga Co., AL, and her husband William BRYANT petitioning for membership at the same time, having also been a former member of New Hope in Autauga Co. Nancy MATHIS also joined the Tallasahatchie Church in 1846, along with Frank SHERRELL and wife, Sarah, and Payton VINSANT. I don't have any relationship in my files on the latter two surnames. Records of this church also show Martha D. and Sarah MATHIS as members. Billie and Audrey have both posted a lot of info on these surnames, which I have followed closely but still unable to make a connection to our lines. Thanks! Evelyn

Received several posts with Leverett info. in messages with Audrey Pool and others. Of interest was the deed with Hezekiah Gentry. Edgefield Co., SC,Deed Book 5, 133-134. 1 Dec 1790: Bill of Robert LEVERET, Sr, of Edgefield Co, SC to Hezekiah GENTRY, Sr for 150 pounds, sold two Negro boys named Jack & Sam. Likewise one Negro woman named Jude...the boys forever to him & the woman during the said LEVERET'S natural life with all stock & household furniture & C. MARTIN, Nathan MELTON, who swore by oath 23 Aug 1791 before Russell WILSON, J. P. Rcd. 23 Aug 1791." Of course there are so many Hezekiah's that connecting the right one is chancy, but the only one I have in Edgefield Dist at that time, old enough to be on the deed is the following. This Hezekiah and Catherine are my 6th great-grandparents thru their 1st daughter Anna Gentry m. Pleaseant Burnett, SR. Descendants of Hezekiah Gentry 1 Hezekiah GENTRY b: 1729 [Louisa Co.], Va. d: April 04, 1824 Edgefield Co., SC . +Catherine REYNOLDS b: Abt. 1738 Caroll Co., Va d: Aft. 1810 Edgefield Co, SC Father: Thomas Reynolds Mother: Hannah Lewis ..... 2 Anna GENTRY b: Abt. 1750 d: September 16, 1829 Edgefield Co., SC ......... +Pleasant BURNETT, Sr. b: Abt. 1745 probably in Va m: Abt. 1764 d: Abt. 1794 Edgefield Co, SC Father: [Thomas Burnett] Mother: [Alice Cave] ..... *2nd Husband of Anna GENTRY: ......... +Stephen TEER m: Bef. 1810 d: Abt. September 1816 Edgefield Co., SC ..... 2 Gilly GENTRY b: Bet. 1750 - 1760 Lunenburg Co., Va d: Bet. December 24, 1846 - April 27, 1847 Russell Co., Ala. ......... +Joseph TROTTER b: Bef. 1750 m: Abt. 1776 Edgefield Co., SC d: Abt. 1805 Edgefield Co, SC Father: Trotter ..... *2nd Husband of Gilly GENTRY: ......... +Samuel ABNEY b: Abt. 1761 m: Abt. 1820 Edgefield Co., SC d: December 04, 1848 Russell AL ..... 2 Robert GENTRY b: Bet. 1755 - 1760 NC or VA d: Abt. October 1820 Edgefield Co., SC ......... +Amelia 'Milly' UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1760 NC m: Bef. 1782 d: Aft. 1850 Bibb Co., Ala ..... 2 Reynolds (Runnels) GENTRY b: Abt. 1757 d: January 23, 1826 Edgefield Dist, SC ......... +Doshey (Doshia) UNKNOWN ..... 2 Thomas GENTRY b: Abt. 1760 d: February 1820 Edgefield Co., SC ......... +SARAH b: Abt. 1760 d: November 1828 Edgefield District, SC ..... 2 Elizabeth GENTRY b: Abt. 1761 ......... +[James] NICHOLS ..... 2 Lurany GENTRY b: Abt. 1761 Edgefield Co., SC d: Aft. 1807 Edgefield Co., SC ......... +Jeremiah BURNETT, Sr. b: Abt. 1761 m: Bef. 1784 d: December 29, 1817 Cuffeetown Ck, Edgefield District, SC. Father: [Thomas Burnett] Mother: [Alice Cave] ..... 2 Delilah GENTRY b: Abt. 1763 ......... +TACKETT ..... 2 Mourning GENTRY b: Abt. 1770 d: Bef. 1820 ......... +Unknown CARLTON ..... 2 Hezekiah (Jr.) GENTRY b: Bet. 1780 - 1798 Edgefield Co., SC d: Bef. 1820 ......... +UNKNOWN I wonder if my unknown spouces, and unknown last name spouces in the above family MIGHT be a Leverett?? Seems like he would have made a deed of gift if that was so. I also have these Leveretts who connect to two of my lines of research. Descendants of Simeon Augusta Leverett found in my Rotton/Roton/Rauton line. 1 Simeon Augusta LEVERETT b: Abt. 1841 GA . +Letta Jane ROTTON b: 1846 Chambers Co., AL m: September 14, 1865 Chambers Co., AL d: 1881 Samson, Randolph Co, AL Father: William S. Rotton Mother: Rebecca Cogburn ..... 2 Cora LEVERETT b: Abt. 1868 TX ..... 2 Anna LEVERETT b: Abt. 1869 AL. ..... 2 Emma Henrietta LEVERETT b: Abt. 1871 AL. ......... +Jesse Hartwell WHATLEY ..... 2 Benjamin LEVERETT b: Abt. 1873 AL. ..... 2 Sally LEVERETT b: Abt. 1876 AL. ..... 2 William LEVERETT b: Abt. 1879 AL. Source for the children: CENSUS: 1880: Census Place: Milltown, Chambers, Alabama [Source: FHL Film 1254005 National Archives Film T9-0005 Page 23D] with parents. Two persons who sent or posted info. on this family were: Michael Vaughn Sims, 1727 Mealing Rd, Tyler, AL 36785 <[email protected] > Aline Anderson <[email protected]> [this is her husband's line] Another Leverett is a wife, found in my Desc. of Charles Carter and Lydia Scurry line. Descendants of Oliver Bradfield 1 Oliver BRADFIELD b: March 08, 1820 SC d: April 28, 1895 Pittsburg TX . +Nancy Jane "Jency" CARTER b: September 24, 1807 SC m: April 19, 1840 Edgefield Co, SC d: April 09, 1887 Camp Co., TX Burial: Matinburg Cem, Matinburg, Camp Co., TX Father: Charles Carter Mother: Lydia Scurry ..... 2 John R. BRADFIELD b: January 14, 1841 Edgefield SC d: November 02, 1923 Upshur TX ......... +Nancy Ann E. WALLS b: March 03, 1842 Carroll GA m: August 07, 1859 Carroll Co, Ga. d: Bet. 1860 - 1868 Clay AL ............ 3 Emily BRADFIELD b: Abt. 1860 ..... *2nd Wife of John R. BRADFIELD: **..... +Malittie LEVERETT b: March 03, 1845 Clay Co., AL m: October 26, 1868 Clay, AL. d: March 01, 1918 Newsom, TX ............ 3 Abraham BRADFIELD b: Abt. 1874 ............ 3 Sallie A. BRADFIELD b: Abt. 1878 ............ 3 Rufus L. BRADFIELD b: 1880 ..... 2 Eliza C. BRADFIELD b: December 12, 1843 Edgefield Co, SC d: February 08, 1910 Rush Springs OK ......... +Robert THOMPSON b: September 18, 1838 GA m: 1859 Coweta, GA d: December 23, 1897 Rush Springs OK ............ 3 See Notes THOMPSON b: Aft. 1859 ..... 2 Lydia A. BRADFIELD b: May 31, 1846 Cowetta, Caroll Co., GA ......... +Jesse Rather KILGORE If any of these surnames show up, I would be very intested in the info. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

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This sure looks like the same families to me. Audrey "Norfolk Co., VA. Will Book I, p. 19 28 Jan. 1739/40 Proved 21 Nov 1740 by Wm. Etheridge, Thomas Nash & Exe. Aaron Etheridge....wife Sarah Etheridge, sons Aaron, Lott and Caleb, daughters Tabitha Butt and Rachel Etheridge." Edgecombe Co, NC: "Aaron ETHERIDGE of Edge. Co. to Caleb ETHERIDGE (Co. not identified) 15 Aug 1748 12 pounds current money of VA 200 acres on Fishing Creek the land he now lives on which I bought of Robert INNMAN and is part of a grant to the said INNMAN 18 June 1741 Wit: Richard LEWIS, Robert CLARK Reg. Edge. Co. Aug. Ct. 1748 B. Wynns C. Ct." Source: Halifax Co, NC Will Book, 1758-1824 "Will #356 pg 114 Aaron ETHERIDGE, Sr. 20 Sept 1786 Nov Ct 1786, daughter Emily ETHERIDGE bed and furniture, etc. Son William ETHERIDGE all the land I now live on daughters Mary ETHERIDGE and Martha ETHERIDGE household goods, etc. Wit: Joshua BUTT, Caleb ETHERIDGE, Mary BUTT. Extrs: William ETHERIDGE and Mason THROWER." Abel and Caleb ETHERIDGE are witnesses to will of Thomas THROWER, 22 Mar 1784. "Will #1008 pg. 692 Haley BROOM 9 Aug 1820 Nov Ct 1823 Sons: Thomas BROOM and John BROOM all my lands on the north side of Beaverdam Swamp grandson John Thomas WHITE 1 Negro, etc. and if he dies the said Negro to go to my sons John and Thomas and my daughter Polly HAYS daughter Polly cow and calf, etc. grandson Haley BROOM the son of Francis E. BROOM 1 Negro granddaughter Martha BROOM bed and furniture. Wit: V. BAILEY, James CARLISLE. Extr: My son John BROOM."

Here are a few records from the above source. Audrey Source: Edgefield County, SC Minutes of the County Court, 1758-1795 14 day of Jan 1788. Present the Worshipful Leroy HAMMOND, Benj. TUTT, Russell WILSON, John MOORE, John STURZENNEGGER, Esquires. Ordered that the Petit Jurors be drawn to serve next court. The names of the Petit Jury so drawn: Among others are. Robert COURTNEY, Michael DELOACH, Reubin HOLLOWAY, Robert DESHASO, Samuel STALNAKER, Amos MITCHEL, Dudley CARTER.more. Note: These surnames are familiar to my research, or of a friend's. (Audrey) October Term: James ANDERSON, Samuel WALKER, Drury MIMS, James BROOKS, Right (Wright) NICHOLSON, George MARTIN, William ABNEY, Arthur WATSON, Solomon POPE, Thomas ANDERSON, Caleb HOLLOWAY, Morrice (sic) GUIN.more, but these are familiar to me. (Audrey) Grand Jurors: John LOWE, foreman Thomas KEY, Caleb HOLLOWAY, Jones RIVERS, William GLOVER, William BUTLER and others.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Pool" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Edgecombe Co, NC BROOM-MATTHIS-COLLINS "pg. 546 John BROOM of Edgecombe Co, NC to Isaac MATTHIS of Edgecombe co. 29 Jan 1754 15 pounds current money of VA. Acres (not given) on the west side of HASELL's run, joining Hazel Nut branch. Wit: Edward COLLINS, Charles MATTHIS Reg. Edge. Co. Feb. Ct. 1754 B. Wynns." ------------------------------------------------------------- Audrey, Interesting, Maybe my Courseys are from that area too, as there are marriages of Courseys to Collins and Broom in later Edgefield records. If anyone has any additional info. on any of these folks, I would LOVE to have it. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected] 1 James BROOM b: Abt. 1827 SC . +Matilda COURSEY b: Abt. 1830 SC m: Bef. 1856 d: May 31, 1900 Burial: Graniteville Cem., Aiken Co., SC Father: John Coursey Mother: Lavicy Beasley ..... 2 Rufus BROOM b: Abt. 1856 Descendants of Gibson Collins 1 Gibson COLLINS b: September 08, 1792 SC d: December 02, 1881 Kirksey, Edgefield Co., SC Burial: Mt. Creek Bapt Church, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC . +Mary NOBLES b: Abt. 1802 m: Abt. 1820 d: Abt. 1829 Newberry Co., SC Father: Hezekiah Nobles Mother: Alsey 'Alice' Nicholson ..... 2 James COLLINS b: Abt. 1824 SC d: Abt. 1862 NY (CW prisoner) ......... +Mary Susannah 'Susan' HARRISON b: December 19, 1826 d: February 25, 1901 Burial: Graniteville Cem., Graniteville, Aiken Co, SC Father: James Moore Harrison Mother: Mary ............ 3 Mary Anne COLLINS b: Abt. 1846 d: 1850 ............ 3 Gibson Harrison COLLINS b: Abt. 1848 ............ 3 James Pickens COLLINS b: Abt. 1850 ................ +EMMA ................... 4 Zelma COLLINS b: Aft. 1880 ....................... +D. F. GIBONEY m: Salonika, Greece ................... 4 Mona COLLINS b: Aft. 1880 ................... 4 James P. COLLINS b: Abt. 1874 ................... 4 John P. COLLINS b: Abt. 1879 ............ 3 Sarah Eugenia 'Sallie' COLLINS b: November 18, 1852 d: October 12, 1926 Burial: Graniteville Cem, Graniteville, Aiken Co, SC ................ +William Marion MARTIN Burial: Sylacauga, AL ............ 3 Susan Mariah COLLINS b: December 16, 1854 SC d: September 17, 1917 921 Assembly St., Columbia, Richland Co. SC Burial: Graniteville Cem., Graniteville, Aiken Co, SC ................ +William John GLOVER b: January 19, 1838 d: May 26, 1901 Burial: Graniteville Cem., Graniteville, Aiken Co, SC ............ 3 Thomas Edward COLLINS b: April 10, 1857 Edgefield Co, SC d: January 24, 1941 North Augusta, Aiken Co, SC Burial: Graniteville Cem, Graniteville, Aiken Co, SC ............ 3 Edward COLLINS b: Abt. 1859 *2nd Wife of Gibson COLLINS: . +Adaline COURSEY b: Abt. 1812 SC m: November 06, 1842 Edgefield Co., SC d: November 01, 1893 Burial: Mt. Creek Bapt Church, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC [Parents not proven yet] ..... 2 John Lake COLLINS b: Abt. 1844 d: Abt. 1869 ......... +Martha S. DORN b: May 05, 1846 d: August 28, 1894 Burial: McKendree Meth, Edgefield SC Father: John Elbert Dorn Mother: Mary Crouch ..... 2 Mary Ann COLLINS b: October 02, 1846 d: January 18, 1850 ..... 2 Martha E. COLLINS b: May 15, 1848 d: October 19, 1915 Burial: Mt. Creek Baptist Church, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC. ......... +Daniel Ashbury OUZTS b: October 15, 1847 m: Aft. 1895 d: April 14, 1904 Burial: McKendree Methodist Church Cemetery, Greenwood, SC ..... 2 William Gibson 'Bill' COLLINS b: January 27, 1851 Edgefield Co, SC d: February 21, 1916 Kirksey, Greenwood Co, SC Burial: Mt. Creek Bapt Church, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC ......... +Mary Ella FAULKNER b: July 05, 1851 Edgefield Co, SC d: November 03, 1900 Burial: Mt. Creek Bapt Church, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC Father: Marshall Faulkner Mother: Mary Ann McManus. I have nothing else on the Broome line, but do have more on the Collins line.

I previously sent this post to the various lists and John Crouch got in touch and told me of a mistake I made. Please note that the census quote preceeded by a line of ****** is for 1850 not 1880. Thanks John for the heads up! Billie Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee and Billie Jones" <[email protected]> To: "SCEDGEFI-L" <[email protected]>; "SCDREENW-L" <[email protected]>; "SC-OLD96-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Compare ALLEN names on previous records to this will > I have some additional info. and worked it into the info. you sent on ALLEN, > William Will Book 1, Page 15 > > Names: Wife - Ann ALLEN - Mecklenburg County Wills, 1765-1799 - Abstracts: > By: Katherine B. Elliott. Audreys post is at the end of the message for > reference > > Billie Jones > Camden, SC > [email protected] > > > I don't know how they all fit, as I don't have the William and Ann Allen??? > > I am very interested in this Elizabeth Burnett, and who she belonged to. > > I have a Nancy Allen who married after the date on the will below to Lewis > Matthews, son of Isaac Matthews, Jr. and Anna Quarles > > RE: Anna Quarles - one researcher sent me info. stating she m. 1 Calhoun; > another said she was a Calhoun m 1) a Quarles, so I don't know about her. I > have no primary documentation. She and her husband are named in The Compendium > of American Genealogy, Vol ll, p. 95-96., which is no longer accepted by DAR as > a source due to errors. > > Shirley Nobles Erickson <[email protected]>, PO Box 456, Covington, TX 76636, > "Electronic," calls her Anna Quarles. She sent me some info. from the Research > of her mother, Annabelle Pennington Nobles Stone. > > She has a Young Allen, Nancy Allen, and Drury Allen among others attached to > one Josiah Allen > > 1 Josiah ALLEN b: 1734 Hanover Co., VA d: July 05, 1782 Ninety Six Dist, > Edgefield Co., SC > . +Elizabeth DELOACH b: 1735 VA m: 1754 VA d: February 03, 1843 Green Co., GA > ..... 2 Milbury Clark ALLEN b: Abt. 1754 VA d: Bef. 1843 *** > ......... +Rubin WHITE b: Abt. 1750 m: February 23, 1772 Darlington, SC d: > Bef. 1840 > ..... 2 Josiah* ALLEN > ..... 2 James West ALLEN **** > ..... 2 Robert ALLEN > ..... 2 Mary 'Polly' ALLEN b: Abt. 1763 d: Bef. 1850 > ..... 2 Young ALLEN > ..... 2 Drury ALLEN [see below*] > ..... 2 Nancy ALLEN b: Bet. 1770 - 1772 d: Bet. 1830 - 1860 Edgefield Dist, > SC ** > ......... +Lewis MATTHEWS b: 1773 Edgefield Dist, SC m: 1791 Edgefield Dist, > SC d: March 19, 1809 Edgefield Dist, SC Father: Isaac Matthews, Jr. Mother: > Anna Quarles > ..... *2nd Husband of Nancy ALLEN: > ......... +Bailey CROUCH m: February 13, 1812 Edgefield Co, SC > > *From another post by Audrey, I wonder if this fits here: He is called DRURY > ALLEN in the will of Aaron Etheridge who seems to be a step father: Aaron > ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield Co, SC Judge Probate Vault - > written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I give to Nancy MATHIS (sic), > Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children that my wife had by Josiah > ALLEN her first husband.' > > **She is called Nancy Mathis in the will of Aaron Etheridge who seems to be a > step father: Aaron ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield Co, SC Judge > Probate Vault - written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I give to Nancy > MATHIS (sic), Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children that my wife > had by Josiah ALLEN her first husband.' *********************************************** > After getting a query from John Crouch I checked census records and find the > following: > CENSUS: 1880 Edgefield Co, The District, p. 187A-B, hh# 444/444 > Lewis Crouch 35 M Farmer 1,200 SC > Caroline Crouch 34 F SC > Henry Crouch 13 M SC > Nancy Crouch 10 F SC > Julius Crouch 8 M SC > Sarah Crouch 6 F SC > Catherine Crouch 4 F SC > Melissa Crouch 2 F SC > ** NANCY CROUCH 80 F SC [Is this Lewis Mathews' widow who married 2) > Bailey Crouch. I cannot prove this, as I don't know the children of Bailey > Crouch. ************************************************************ > ***She is called Milbury Clark ALLEN in the will of Aaron Etheridge who seems > to be a step father: Aaron ETHERIDGE - Will Book A, page 73, Edgefield Co, SC > Judge Probate Vault - written 25 June 1811 and recorded 7 Mar 1821 - 'I give to > Nancy MATHIS (sic), Milbury Clark ALLEN and Drury ALLEN, three children that my > wife had by Josiah ALLEN her first husband.' > > ****Scott Christie <[email protected]> who is researching the Robert > Christie line gives the following which seems to connect them to the Allens: > I see that James Allen, who is said to be son of Josiah and Elizabeth > Deloach Allen, owned property on Richland Creek, which is a tributary of the > Little Saluda River and nearby to Bailey's Creek, where Robert Christie owned > land. I have a Robert Christie who, in October of 1796, witnessed the will of > Josiah Allen in Colleton County, along with Aaron Etheredge. Robert and Aaron > were neighbors in Edgefield SC, and as far as I can tell have no other > connections in Colleton District. > Robert went on to name his first son Josiah Allen Christie, so I suspect a > connection somewhere. I do not know the name of Robert's first wife and Josiah > Allen Christie's mother, but have always suspected her to be a daughter of a > Josiah Allen. > I have also read that Elizabeth went on to marry Aaron Etheridge, presumably > after the death of Josiah Allen. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Audrey Pool" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: Compare ALLEN names on previous records to this will > > > > Note Drury ALLEN in the will of William ALLEN of Mecklenburg Co, VA. Also > note that one of the daughters married a BURNETT. Audrey > > > > Mecklenburg County Wills, 1765-1799 - Abstracts: By: Katherine B. Elliott > > > > > > > > "ALLEN, William Will Book 1, Page 15 > > Names: Wife - Ann ALLEN > > > > Children: Robert ALLEN, Susanna ALLEN, Joseph ALLEN, Pines ALLEN, Nancy > ALLEN, Fanny Smith* ALLEN - Wife to raise these six youngest children. > > > > Bequest to wife - land on west side of Mountain Creek and other property for > natural life. > > > > Children: Pleasant ALLEN, land on Mountain Creek, Grey ALLEN, horse and 25 > pounds cash, Dolly ALLEN, 5 shillings cash, Elizabeth BURNETT 5 pounds cash. > > > > Remainder of estate not willed above to be divided among the following > children. Turner ALLEN, *Drury ALLEN, Lucy MORGAN, John ALLEN, William ALLEN, > Darling ALLEN, Martha JARRETT, Young ALLEN and Meredith ALLEN. > > > > Executors: Isaac JOHNSON, Elisha ARNOLD and son Drury ALLEN. > > > > Witnesses: Samuel MARSHALL, Walter EVANS and Stephen EVANS. > > > > Will dated February 4, 1789 Recorded April 13, 1789" > > > > > > ==== SCEDGEFI Mailing List ==== > > > > List owner Charmaine Riley Holley > > [email protected] > > proud sponsor of rootsweb.com > > > > >

Does anyone have any information on this family: This was on a scrap of paper I found and don't remember where I got it. It may have been from the probate record at the State Archives or copied from Janie Revill's book, as I have reference to that book on another notation on the other side of the paper. Estate of Beverly A. Carter, William Carter Adms. Box 55, pkg 2278, Edgefield Co, SC William Carter in Acct with his deceased ward, B. A. Carter L. G. Carter William Carter John T. Carter Charles Carter (purchaser at the estate sale) -------------------------------------------------- There is a William Carter mentioned in the Carter Ledger b. March 13, 1789. There is also a reference to another William in the ledger as follows: 1 William CARTER b: Abt. 1756 d: October 27, 1826 Edgefield District, SC . +KATHERINE b: Abt. 1770 d: November 24, 1819 Edgefield Dist, SC It is assumed that these folks are connected to the Charles Carter m. Lydia Scurry family but the relationship is unknown to me. Since Charles Carter is born not too long after the above William, I have speculated that they might be brothers?? 1 Charles CARTER b: January 04, 1763 Hillsborough Dist., NC d: October 29, 1843 Edgefield Co., SC . +Lydia SCURRY b: April 28, 1768 NC/SC m: April 06, 1786 Newberry Co., SC d: September 28, 1853 Edgefield Co, SC Mother: Mary Any help on this would be appreciated. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

Need some help on the following Peter Robertson and Perry Holloway: Will of Jesse Holloway 30 March 1818 - Box 13, pkg 468, Edgefield Co., SC - I have this one transcribed: 4th It is my will that the balance of my estate both real and personal should be equally divided among my eight children namly my sons Perry, Dan, Jesse, Ransom and J. Meekins and my daughters Michal, Polly & Nancy. Edgefield Rec Bk A-36 1830 - HOLLOWAY, PERRY--Gdn. Minor children of Stephen Martin. . Edgefield Rec Bk B-33 1841- HOLLOWAY, PERRY--Heir of Peter Robertson. EDGEFIELD CO, SC, RECORDS compiled by Janie Revill) MARTIN, STEPHEN--Dec'd R E Sold 1830. Edgefield Rec Bk A-36 Dist: John Bracknell and wife--1/3 $98.22 Julia Ann Martin-same Emeline Martin-same. Perry Holloway--Rec't. 11 Jan 1830 for shares of Julia Ann and Emeline Martin - minors as Guardian. Rec't by John Brackrell for share "to which myself and my wife are entitled". Land was purchased by John Brackrell ROBERTSON, PETER--Dec'd R E sold 1841 Edgefield Rec Bk B-3 Dist: Mary Robertson, widow 1/3 $118.02 John Robertson Perry Holloway Each of children 1/4 of 2/3 Elizabeth Coleman Edmond Atcherson and wife I have not seen the original info. from Janie Revill's book, but it was sent to me by Marie Olson several years ago, and a recent post by Audrey reminded me of it. I found the following record of Perry Holloway which puts him still living when the above real estate sales took place: 1850 Mortality census, Edgefield Co., SC gives one Perry Holloway age 67 married b. VA. d Feb 1850 of Dysspia? He was ill for 60 days before his death. His occupation is given as farmer. I have this Perry Holloway as a son of Jesse Holloway below: Descendants of Jesse Holloway 1 Jesse HOLLOWAY b: Abt. 1755 (York?), VA d: April 1818 Edgefield Dist., SC . +Caty UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1755 VA. d: Bef. March 1818 ..... 2 Jordan Meekins HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1775 - 1784 VA d: 1815 Edgefield Co, SC ......... +Rebecca UNKNOWN b: Bef. 1775 d: Aft. 1836 **. 2 Perry HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1784 - 1790 VA d: February 1850 Edgefield Co, SC ......... [SPECULATION +Possible ROBERTSON Father: Peter Robertson Mother: Mary] ..... 2 Daughter HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1786 - 1796 VA d: Bef. 1818 ......... +BOWLES m: Bef. 1818 Edgefield Co., SC ..... 2 Mary D. "Dolly" HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1786 - 1796 VA ..... 2 Michal Rachael HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1786 - 1796 VA d: Aft. 1818 SC ..... 2 Nancy HOLLOWAY b: Abt. 1796 Brunswick Co., VA. d: 1876 Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Mt Creek Bapt, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC ......... +Shirley Burrell WHATLEY, Jr. b: 1793 SC m: December 06, 1814 Edgefield Co, SC d: June 11, 1852 Edgefield Dist, SC Burial: Mt Creek Bapt, Kirksey, Greenwood Co., SC Father: Shurley Whatley Mother: Pheby ..... 2 Daniel HOLLOWAY b: Abt. 1790 VA. d: July 11, 1826 Limestone Co., AL ......... +Elizabeth Victoria DORN b: 1792 Edgefield Co, SC m: Abt. 1814 d: December 01, 1876 Plain Dealing, Bossier Parish, LA Burial: Boggs Cem, Mott, Bossier, LA Father: Johannes Peter Dorn Mother: Margaret Eva 'Eve' Unknown ..... 2 Jesse H. HOLLOWAY b: Bet. 1791 - 1795 VA d: Abt. February 28, 1828 Limestone Co., AL. ......... +Harriett LEWIS b: Abt. 1790 Possibly Edgefield Dist., SC m: Abt. 1818 Father: Richard Lewis Mother: Mary Nicholson ..... 2 Ransom HOLLOWAY b: January 21, 1792 near Petersburg, VA d: May 14, 1862 Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Harling-Faulkner Family Cem. [near Pine Grove Pentecostal], Edgefield Co., SC ......... +Rhoda LEWIS m: Bef. 1822 d: Bef. 1832 Father: Richard Lewis Mother: Mary Nicholson ..... *2nd Wife of Ransom HOLLOWAY: ......... +Matilda FAULKNER b: September 30, 1808 Edgefield Co, SC m: Bef. 1832 d: October 17, 1896 Edgefield Co, SC Burial: Harling-Faulkner Family Cem. [near Pine Grove Pentecostal], Edgefield Co., SC Father: Amos Russell Faulkner Mother: Elizabeth Dorn I desc. from 1st son Jordan Meekins Holloway, but down the line, it is my belief that desc. Ewell Coursey m. 1st a Robertson. So I have begun the research on the Robertson lines. Since Perry is listed in the estate sale of Peter Robertson, and he sounds like a probable son-in-law, I would be interested in connecting these folks. I do not know the Martin relation either, but do know that very early the Martins intermarried into the Rotton line, which also later connects to the Holloway desc: William Martin (b. 5/27/1759, m. Sarah Rotten [Fam ?], d.1828) Dry Cr Bapt Saluda SC. Later John Fears Martin (b. 12/31/1805 Edgefield SC, m.1. Sarah Cockroft (b. 3/15/1804 Edgefield SC, d. 2/24/1838 Edgefield SC)[d/o Mary Still & John Cockroft, Sr.], 10/16/1827 Edgefield SC, 2. Harriet Susannah Raborn (b. 1/14/1817 Edgefield SC, d. 3/5/1881 Bullock AL)[d/o Susannah Lovelace & William M. Raborn, Sr.], 11/21/1839 Edgefield SC, d. 2/7/1847 Edgefield SC) Harriet m.2. James Jackson (Cole) Loveless Two of John R. Martin's children are fund in the hh with George Watt Holloway in 1850 John Martin (b. 1836 Edgefield SC) L/w Margaret Ann Stallworth & George Watt Holloway [1850] 2nd Wife Sarah Ann Martin (b. 8/31/1840 Edgefield SC, d. 6/18/1895) L/w Margaret Ann Stallworth & George Watt Holloway [1850](m.1. Henry Slaughter, 2. Strong) Can anyone give me more on Peter Robertson's family or the Perry Holloway line? I would appreciate the help. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]