[email protected] said >If people have done surveys in Colleton County and wish for them >to be on-line, I would graciously accept them via e-mail and >see about getting them published on the internet. please, no >copyrighted >material unless you can send permission from the >copyright holder. Yes, John can start a cemetery page but I never said I wouldn't post a list somebody had personally recorded. I said I would not post copyrighted material without the holder's permission. Rootsweb sponsors two cemetery transcription pages that are associated with the USGenWeb. Trouble is nobody has contributed any for most South Carolina counties. So if you have a transcription, please send it to John [email protected] , Colleton SCGenWeb (me) [email protected] , OR one of the two cemetery projects on Rootsweb. I wrote Evelyn Bryan (in 1997) about putting the old cemetery book online, but she declined because she still had copies to sell. However, someone emailed me (fall? 1999) saying that the address she had given me is no longer valid. John, if you get any submissions, I hope you will post the URL to the list. Jane >From: "Sullivan, John" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCCOLLET] On-line Cemeteries - another perspective! >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:28:27 -0600 > >Dear SC list, >Welcome to the new millennium (some may say a year early). >I was perfectly aware of why the Cemetery Listings were not >on-line and I completely disagree with the reasoning. > >In my humble opinion: >A few years ago, books were almost the only way to disseminate information. > >The genealogical societies put out various books in order to >share the information. Their clients were libraries, professional >genealogists, and other genealogical societies, and probably a small >number of individuals. I doubt if any of the publishers made any >significant money, rather, I suspect most ventures lost money or >broke even. We're not talking blockbuster novels on the NY Times Best >Seller list ("Cold Mountain"), we're talking about cemetery lists! > >As for the people who actually did the cemetery surveys, I suspect >they did it simply because they wanted the information to be available >to more than the few people close enough to go to the cemeteries >themselves. > >In other words, they did it for the purpose of sharing the information with >as many people as possible. That has been my experience with the people >where I live who have done surveys, including myself. Labor of love, so >they say. > >A professional genealogist or business certainly >has the right to go do survey(s), compile them, hoard them, and/or sell >them. (Ever think about who holds the copyright on a tombstone >inscription?) >Family tree maker even gets people to give information to them so >they can sell it to others. The donors do it to disseminate the data and >find others with similar interests. >But should a local non-profit genealogical society be hoarding and selling? > >Isn't part of its charter to make the information available. > >As I said before, welcome to the new millennium. The internet is the best >place in the world to share and disseminate information. >Bad for hoarders and profiteers. > >And who knows when, if ever, the genealogical society will publish their >book. > >If people have done surveys in Colleton County and wish for them >to be on-line, I would graciously accept them via e-mail and >see about getting them published on the internet. please, no copyrighted >material unless you can send permission from the copyright holder. > >I was shocked to be told that the local genealogical society is in >opposition to on-line publishing and the people maintaining the local >web site are on the side of keeping the information unavailable. > >You are probably getting this e-mail via a listserve sponsored by >RootsWeb. Think about International Ships Transcribers Guild, >on-line census pages and transcriptions, people who publish their >family trees for the world to see, etc. Think about it! > >Best regards, > >John Sullivan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jane Hurd [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 12:26 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCCOLLET] From List Manager: about St. Bart. Genealogy Society > >OK folks, > >I understand their position. They are a non-profit organization. If they >have local projects that want to complete, they must generate revenue from >membership dues, publishing books, etc. > >If I did research for a book or wrote a novel, I wouldn't give permssion to >somebody else to post it on their web page. If I posted it without >permission, it's called copyright violation. > >I wouldn't give someone permission to post the cemeteries online as long as >I was trying to sell the book. That's not using good business sense. > >The fact that the Dorchester cemeteries are online is through the >generosity > >of the surviving authors. The books were published in 1978, 1979 and are >OUT OF PRINT. Very few copies are in the hands of libraries and most >libraries who have them, don't allow them released on interlibrary loan. > >I can not post the cemeteries online without their group's permission. >I can not volunteer (or have anyone else do it) to do lookups without their >group's permission. >I, like most of you do not live in South Carolina, so I don't have fast >access to the cemeteries. > >Why not try joining the group, making some friends in the group (several of >them live in Colleton County) and asking them to check the local records? > >The Old St. Bartholomew Genealogical Chapter >104 Wade Hampton Ave. >Walterboro, SC 29488 > >Their monthly meetings are held on the second Sunday of each month, except >July and Aug. at the Library Annex, 615 Hampton St.,at 3:00 PM. > >If you are interested in joining this chapter of The South Carolina >Genealogical Society, their yearly dues are > >individual $12.00 >family $18.00 >associate $8.00 > >NOTE - Associate dues apply if you are already a member of another chapter >of The South Carolina Genealogical Society; your state dues were paid by >the > >first chapter you had joined. > >I do know the frustration of not having access to the records that pertain >to your ancestors. The fact that Sherman marched through South Carolina >and > >burned courthouses makes all of our research frustrating. > >Thanks for reading this. I'm sorry if you can't see it from their point of >view. Can someone post the status of the book? > >Jane Hurd >[email protected] > >Colleton County SCGenWeb >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4197/colleton.html > > > > > >From: "Sullivan, John" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [SCCOLLET] Need Help Colleton County Cemeteries > >Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:51:19 -0600 > > > >I need help finding a few ancestors in Colleton. > >There seem to be almost no Colleton Cemeteries on-line, > >and have been told there is opposition to making them > >available on-line so that Colleton Historical Society > >can (someday?) make a book with them and sell them. > > > >I have looked in "Cemeteries of Upper Colleton County", > >but Walterboro/mid/lower Colleton County are a problem. > > > >Anyone out there have the information available and > >are willing to do a few look-ups for me? > > > >Thank you, > > > >John Sullivan > >Austin, Texas > > > > > >==== SCCOLLET Mailing List ==== > >Visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/1968/sc_colleton.html > >Colleton Co - American Local History Network > > > >============================== > >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > >Rootsweb has started a new discussion list for both Colleton and Dorchester >Cos. >To subscribe: [email protected] or >[email protected] >with subscribe as the subject > >To post, use this shorter address: [email protected] > [email protected] >Jane Hurd >[email protected] > >Colleton County SCGenWeb >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4197/colleton.html > >Colleton Co SC - American Local History Network >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/1968/sc_colleton.html > >Darlington County SCGenWeb >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5641/ > >Darlington Co SC - American Local History Network >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/1968/sc_darlington.html > >Dorchester County SCGenWeb >http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Union/1956/dorchester.html > >Union Co SC - American Local History Network >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/1968/sc_union.html > >Williamsburg Co SC - American Local History Network >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/1968/sc_williamsburg.html > >Jane's Space on the Web >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4197/jane-web.html > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== SCCOLLET Mailing List ==== >Visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4197/colleton.html >Colleton Co SCGenWeb > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > >==== SCCOLLET Mailing List ==== >Visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4197/colleton.html >Colleton Co SCGenWeb > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >12.8 million individuals and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com