While personally hoping that John Sullivan will be invited back on the list (but would he want to come?) it seems prudent to move on from here in a constructive manner. As one who also has spent unimaginable numbers of hours and enough money to literally threaten my mortgage payments in pursuing research, I know the temptation to recoup some of the money and effort spent. In such an effort, I have realized over the last year and a half of publishing and marketing some books that you get more publicity (and thus more sales) by posting plenty of free excerpts on the net. And I would bet that you could publish the entire cemetery book online and still get buyers of the book simply because many prefer a book. To say nothing of the word of mouth generated by people happy with the info gotten on line. A good example of this is J. Russell Cross' book, "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley". This book is sold by the Berkeley county Historic Society. Mr. Cross generously and the Society (and as it turns out, wisely) made large portions of this book available on web sites. Through these excerpts many people such as myself--who never would have seen the book or have known it even existed--have purchased the book and encouraged others to do so. (Proceeds go to the Historic Society and not Mr. Cross, by the way, and I have no connection with either although I do hope to join the society soon thanks in no small part to the pleasure this book has given me.) So, I would strongly urge any nonprofit organization or private individual on a budget to get smart about marketing--it only HELPS, not hurts you to freely post info to the Net. And it HURTS, not helps, your organization's efforts any time you resort to name-calling. I think these are all points that Mr. Sullivan was trying to make. I do not know what discussions took place off-list, but I think we can all make positive contributions from here on out, and I hope all parties can call this a learning process, not repeat their mistakes, and move on. Elizabeth DUBois Russo