-----Original Message----- From: Bill Liles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'E. Y. Turner' Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC The Franklins owned land adjacent to my John and Agnes Cockrell Liles, who owned about 1000 acres there, in the late 1700's on the Little Sandy River just west of the present day community of Cornwell. John Liles died in October 1790 leaving Agnes to raise several children including my GGGG Grandfather, Samuel Liles. If memory serves me correctly, I think the Franklin lands were purchased by Notley Coats in the very early 1800's. The Trussell family also owned lands adjacent there and there is presently a Trussell Rd in the vicinity. Two Trussell brothers married two daughters, Elizabeth and Morning, of John and Agnes Cockrell Liles about 1800. -----Original Message----- From: E. Y. Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC Charlotte By chance is the Thomas Baker Franklin in Chester Co SC any relations to your COATS. Does anyone on the list have information on the FRANKLINs in SW Chester Co SC. Virginia Turner [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > Oh, thanks so much Peggy....this is why the Coats have to go to the original > records so much...we're just not in anything....:) > > While I'm at it...there is another group of Courts in MD, that name is > Courts in the original records but it has been transcribed as > Coats...another reason for using original records....:) > > The Coats name btw, is spelled Coats, Coates, Coate and Cotes and sometimes > all three versions in the same record.... > > In Robertson County TN, there is a William Couts who has a deed transaction > with a John Baker...now, that same William Couts in the original records has > been transcribed in the court minutes as Coats...but this William Couts dies > in Robertson County TN about 1850 or so, and his wife's name is Nancy!! Now > my Rev William Coats m Nancy Baker...for years this has been thought to be > the connection for them...then in other D.A.R. research and an old family > genealogy has Nancy Baker's father as Sylvester Baker out of NC...well, I > could never put my Coats family anywhere near NC during the time period Rev > William and Nancy were married....but guess what, there is a John Baker in > Wilson County TN who dies in 1844, he was a minuteman in the Revolution, in > Nancy's estate papers in Callaway County MO, she is left the estate of a > John Baker of TN...in John's Revolutionary pension file he says he was born > in VA, where he was in the Revolution, he moves shortly thereafter to SC, > then KY then TN...so that puts him in SC at the time Rev Will and Nancy were > married....bottom line, I believe Nancy Baker's father was John Baker of > Wilson County TN, who died there in 1844 and left his estate to her...the > John Baker in Robert County TN is a different John Baker, he never leaves > Robertson County TN but does have a son I believe and some land transactions > in Wilson County TN....see how this all gets confused!! Nancy's oldest son > in the 1880 census also states she was born in VA! > > So no wonder we can't find any of them....:) > > Char > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Peggy Carey" <[email protected]> > To: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:26:32 -0500 > > I have both volumes of "Chester County, S.C. Heritage History" and I did not > find the name Coate or Coat in them. Peggy Carey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:18 AM > Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > > > > Do you have Coat(e)s in the SC area? Which area or county? > > > > We believe Notley Coats and Charles Coats were from Frederick County MD > and > > the name was spelled Coarts in MD...Notley w Franky lived and he died in > > Chester County SC.... > > > > But we have a lot of loose ends out of South Carolina...just not enough > > documentation to make a lot of solid connections there.... > > > > Char > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > ==== SCCHEST2 Mailing List ==== Please support the Chester District Genealogical Society!!! Details are on the main Chester County Web page - membership info, research help and publications are available!!!
Let's see....this is what I have on the Coats family in Chester County SC: http://www.coatsarchive.us/docschester.html Now, Notley has a daughter named Peggy, I think it was, that we don't know what happened to her....his son went to MS, William was his name and he married a Jane Huey, we believe...Notley's will is at the above link... This is the group we believe came from Frederick County MD, Notley we believe to be the son of Charles Coats of Frederick County MD, where the name is spelled Coart in the transcribed records, in the MD Tax records this Charles is very elderly over 60, but he shows a son Notley and James living with him in MD about 1772, then in SC we have a Notley and James that show up in Chester County SC...there is also another Charles we believe to be younger than the Charles in MD...he is connected to Notley and James somehow, but we're not sure, and maybe a William Coats, who was Quaker in Newberry County SC, this Charles of SC moves to Jefferson County GA in the late 1700s....land records give the names of some of his kids...there is also a James Coats in GA...we're not sure if that is a son of Charles or some other relation i.e. brother...both Charles and James die early on, early 1800s... According to John Baker's revolutionary war file, he lived 60 miles from Charleston on the Broad River, which would put him pretty close to Newberry County SC...but how he is connected to any of the other Bakers in SC, I do not know...and there are a lot of Bakers there....:) There is a Baker DNA project and a list at Yahoo Groups...they are very active, strong and doing some really good research on the Bakers...it was with their help that really helped me to determine my Baker line was via John of Wilson County TN rather than Sylvester of North Carolina, regardless of what the old research says!!! And in 1840 John Baker of Wilson County TN is living alone on the tax records, so I figure he must have had some land...maybe a Jeremiah Baker on the tax lists with him was a son or nephew...but I'm looking now for land records that shows what happened to John's land after he died...and in some cases those records may not how up for 20 years after he died, if he had a son who took the land after he died and then say didn't sell it until later..... We have to enjoy the Hunt! Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bill Liles" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: FW: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:47:54 -0500 -----Original Message----- From: Bill Liles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'E. Y. Turner' Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC The Franklins owned land adjacent to my John and Agnes Cockrell Liles, who owned about 1000 acres there, in the late 1700's on the Little Sandy River just west of the present day community of Cornwell. John Liles died in October 1790 leaving Agnes to raise several children including my GGGG Grandfather, Samuel Liles. If memory serves me correctly, I think the Franklin lands were purchased by Notley Coats in the very early 1800's. The Trussell family also owned lands adjacent there and there is presently a Trussell Rd in the vicinity. Two Trussell brothers married two daughters, Elizabeth and Morning, of John and Agnes Cockrell Liles about 1800. -----Original Message----- From: E. Y. Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC Charlotte By chance is the Thomas Baker Franklin in Chester Co SC any relations to your COATS. Does anyone on the list have information on the FRANKLINs in SW Chester Co SC. Virginia Turner [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > Oh, thanks so much Peggy....this is why the Coats have to go to the original > records so much...we're just not in anything....:) > > While I'm at it...there is another group of Courts in MD, that name is > Courts in the original records but it has been transcribed as > Coats...another reason for using original records....:) > > The Coats name btw, is spelled Coats, Coates, Coate and Cotes and sometimes > all three versions in the same record.... > > In Robertson County TN, there is a William Couts who has a deed transaction > with a John Baker...now, that same William Couts in the original records has > been transcribed in the court minutes as Coats...but this William Couts dies > in Robertson County TN about 1850 or so, and his wife's name is Nancy!! Now > my Rev William Coats m Nancy Baker...for years this has been thought to be > the connection for them...then in other D.A.R. research and an old family > genealogy has Nancy Baker's father as Sylvester Baker out of NC...well, I > could never put my Coats family anywhere near NC during the time period Rev > William and Nancy were married....but guess what, there is a John Baker in > Wilson County TN who dies in 1844, he was a minuteman in the Revolution, in > Nancy's estate papers in Callaway County MO, she is left the estate of a > John Baker of TN...in John's Revolutionary pension file he says he was born > in VA, where he was in the Revolution, he moves shortly thereafter to SC, > then KY then TN...so that puts him in SC at the time Rev Will and Nancy were > married....bottom line, I believe Nancy Baker's father was John Baker of > Wilson County TN, who died there in 1844 and left his estate to her...the > John Baker in Robert County TN is a different John Baker, he never leaves > Robertson County TN but does have a son I believe and some land transactions > in Wilson County TN....see how this all gets confused!! Nancy's oldest son > in the 1880 census also states she was born in VA! > > So no wonder we can't find any of them....:) > > Char > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Peggy Carey" <[email protected]> > To: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:26:32 -0500 > > I have both volumes of "Chester County, S.C. Heritage History" and I did not > find the name Coate or Coat in them. Peggy Carey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:18 AM > Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Re: SCCHEST2-D Digest V05 #45 > > > > Do you have Coat(e)s in the SC area? Which area or county? > > > > We believe Notley Coats and Charles Coats were from Frederick County MD > and > > the name was spelled Coarts in MD...Notley w Franky lived and he died in > > Chester County SC.... > > > > But we have a lot of loose ends out of South Carolina...just not enough > > documentation to make a lot of solid connections there.... > > > > Char > > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > ==== SCCHEST2 Mailing List ==== Please support the Chester District Genealogical Society!!! Details are on the main Chester County Web page - membership info, research help and publications are available!!! ==== SCCHEST2 Mailing List ==== Descendants of Chester County Confederate Soldiers... looking for pictures, letters, and any other information for a new web project under discussion. Co. H 24th SCV Infantry especially. [email protected]
LARRY DEAN BAKER #37925 E-mail: [email protected], [email protected] Nathaniel Ervin (N.E.) Baker 1907 Lancaster Co, SC-1986 Bernalillo Co, NM/Farida Fowler Benjamin Franklin Baker 1885 Lancaster Co, SC-1952 NC/Pearl Hair Nathaniel E. Baker 1841 or 47-1891 SC/Arminda Caroline Garris Bill, notice the Franklin middle name coming out of SC This is from the Baker DNA project at: http://www.bakerdna.net/ We'd sure like some Baker DNA takers out of this SC area...anyone know of any? Char -----Original Message----- From: Bill Liles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'E. Y. Turner' Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC The Franklins owned land adjacent to my John and Agnes Cockrell Liles, who owned about 1000 acres there, in the late 1700's on the Little Sandy River just west of the present day community of Cornwell. John Liles died in October 1790 leaving Agnes to raise several children including my GGGG Grandfather, Samuel Liles. If memory serves me correctly, I think the Franklin lands were purchased by Notley Coats in the very early 1800's. The Trussell family also owned lands adjacent there and there is presently a Trussell Rd in the vicinity. Two Trussell brothers married two daughters, Elizabeth and Morning, of John and Agnes Cockrell Liles about 1800. -----Original Message----- From: E. Y. Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCCHEST2] Coats and Franklins in Chester Co SC Charlotte By chance is the Thomas Baker Franklin in Chester Co SC any relations to your COATS. Does anyone on the list have information on the FRANKLINs in SW Chester Co SC. Virginia Turner [email protected]