Regarding Covenanters being descendants of French Huguenots - there is a theological connection in that both the French Protestants (Huguenots) and Scottish Protestants (Covenanters) were originally Calvinists. But that's it. The Covenanters who settled in Chester County after 1761- (i.e. William Martin's group came in 1763) were historically descendants of Scots and people from the English/Scots Border who had been sent to Northern Ireland to settle, conquer, and subdue the Roman Catholic Irish. The term Covenanter comes from the National Covenant and the later Solemn League and Covenant which the Scots based their Kirk of Scotland upon. I'm trying hard to be clear and concise but bury you in detail. There is a lot of information available online through Google Books if you search on the terms "Covenanters", "Huguenots", "Calvinists" and "Reformed Presbyterians". George Howe's History of the Presbyterian Church in South Carolina is available online through Google Books for research. It's practically impossible to get a copy of it otherwise. The Huguenots began permanent settlements in South Carolina in the 1680s, arriving in waves up until the early 1700s and settled in and around Charleston. Eventually, as far north as the Santee River, west to Abbeville, south around Purrysburg - as I recall. The Covenanters came after the Cherokee uprising in the 1760's (French & Indian War period) when the SC colonial government in Charleston decided it would be a good thing to create a larger buffer between them and hostile Indians. The Bounty Act passed July 25, 1761 broadened earlier immigration laws for religious refugees (Janie Revill "A compilation of the Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina 1763-1773) And, yes, Catholic is a term that was used by even Protestant churches expressing the ideal of one unified Church of Christian believers. Their writings referred to the "Roman" church rather than the "Catholic" church when expressing the reason for their religious dissent. Hope this helps rather than confuse. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of scchest2-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:38 AM To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Subject: SCCHEST2 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 68 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Janean Ray) 2. Ancestors (wcullars) 3. Re: SCCHEST2 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 (FAIRFIELD MUSEUM) 4. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Hogbearfwb@aol.com) 5. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Joyce G. Reece) 6. Dr. Robert Coleman Arnette (wcullars) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:36:29 -0400 From: "Janean Ray" <Jray38@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek To: <scchest2@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E612B7EDA893430CB4E0432137D252C3@LegalDefenders.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a few..... 1818/25..... 1760, 1770 However the 1770 one he wasn't here yet. The 1818 isn't so much for landowners but land improved for mills. These are all the maps I have right now that I know of. I am in the beginning stages of sorting out all my old files etc. and replacing with new info I've collected. So I haven't been into my files for a long time. This was all I could find on my computer. Please email me privately to get them. I am sure I got them on the internet but couldn't tell you where, it's been too long ago. Janean -----Original Message----- From: scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hogbearfwb@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:37 AM To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek Nancy - good questions and good email. Hope someone replies with some good answers! I still have heard nothing from the Richburg High School principle. When Jerry and I start driving up to our daughter's new home in SE VA (probably about Aug.) think I will stop by his school, or home, and talk to him face-to-face - and anyone else I can think of that might know something. Any suggestions of who else? Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 5/5/2009 11:53:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, NanSicotte@aol.com writes: Does anyone know the location of the church that the Rev. William Martin established on Rocky Creek after his arrival from Ireland in 1772? Was it on his property? An article by Jim Knox on The President's Page in the Chester District Genealogical Society Bulletin for March 2008 states that Union A.R.P. Church in Richburg is an outgrowth of Rev. Martin's "Rocky Creek Meeting House". In an issue of the Bulletin several years ago it was stated that the graveyard at the Rev. Martin's church was called the "Talford" Graveyard (spelling should be Telford). I am looking for the graves of Joseph (died 1824) and Rachel Telford, who arrived in 1771 from Ireland, and received land on Rocky Creek. Also for the graves of their son Samuel Telford and his wife, Margaret McCreary (both died 1834). We have been to the site of the Rev. Martin's gravestone and marker, on his property. There is no evidence of other graves there. Is there a plat map (around 1772 - 1835) of the Rocky Creek - Beaver Dam Creek area, with the names of the owners of the land? Thanks for any information. Nancy Sicotte California **************Big savings on Dell's most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! 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Meanwhile my more local ancestor started a Primitive Baptist church abt.1858 in ALA. In between there and before the 1850's, I do not know what faith the family had. So.. it can be important to look into historical of religions to see connections? --- Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Database (VPS): 090502-0, 05/02/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 10:39:06 AM (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:14:58 -0400 (EDT) From: FAIRFIELD MUSEUM <fairfieldmus@truvista.net> Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] SCCHEST2 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1670820536.653701241622898504.JavaMail.root@md03.emerald.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I don't know what the principal of Richbourg High School would offer in the way of information. There are a number of contacts who will likely respond to this listserve who will direct you to the location of the site of Rev. Martin's last church. I am presently out of town with no access to my email addresses, but will attempt to help you in future weeks on my return if you don't receive information before then. Pelham LYles,Director of the Fairfield County Museum in Winnsboro fairfieldmus@truvista.net ----- Original Message ----- From: scchest2-request@rootsweb.com To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:24:18 AM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected Subject: SCCHEST2 Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Hogbearfwb@aol.com) 2. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Joyce G. Reece) 3. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (wcullars) 4. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (eytvwt@ftc-i.net) 5. Re: Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek (Joyce G. Reece) 6. Arnett of Tyger River (wcullars) 7. Presbyterian (wcullars) To contact the SCCHEST2 list administrator, send an email to SCCHEST2-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCCHEST2 mailing list, send an email to SCCHEST2@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:23:50 EDT From: Hogbearfwb@aol.com Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d54.4e52d308.37330586@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Janean, Joe Telford here. I will gladly reimburse you for any expenses you might incur in making copies, and mailing them to me, of the maps/platts you made reference to in your attached email. I would also appreciate any suggestions from you as to where else I might look/search for maps/platts that might show the information Nancy Sicotte and I are searching for. My mailing address is: Joe W. Telford; 604 Cambridge Avenue; Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32547 Thanks, Joe --------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 5/6/2009 9:36:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Jray38@neo.rr.com writes: I have a few..... 1818/25..... 1760, 1770 However the 1770 one he wasn't here yet. The 1818 isn't so much for landowners but land improved for mills. These are all the maps I have right now that I know of. I am in the beginning stages of sorting out all my old files etc. and replacing with new info I've collected. So I haven't been into my files for a long time. This was all I could find on my computer. Please email me privately to get them. I am sure I got them on the internet but couldn't tell you where, it's been too long ago. Janean -----Original Message----- From: scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hogbearfwb@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:37 AM To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek Nancy - good questions and good email. Hope someone replies with some good answers! I still have heard nothing from the Richburg High School principle. When Jerry and I start driving up to our daughter's new home in SE VA (probably about Aug.) think I will stop by his school, or home, and talk to him face-to-face - and anyone else I can think of that might know something. Any suggestions of who else? Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 5/5/2009 11:53:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, NanSicotte@aol.com writes: Does anyone know the location of the church that the Rev. William Martin established on Rocky Creek after his arrival from Ireland in 1772? Was it on his property? An article by Jim Knox on The President's Page in the Chester District Genealogical Society Bulletin for March 2008 states that Union A.R.P. Church in Richburg is an outgrowth of Rev. Martin's "Rocky Creek Meeting House". In an issue of the Bulletin several years ago it was stated that the graveyard at the Rev. Martin's church was called the "Talford" Graveyard (spelling should be Telford). I am looking for the graves of Joseph (died 1824) and Rachel Telford, who arrived in 1771 from Ireland, and received land on Rocky Creek. Also for the graves of their son Samuel Telford and his wife, Margaret McCreary (both died 1834). We have been to the site of the Rev. Martin's gravestone and marker, on his property. There is no evidence of other graves there. Is there a plat map (around 1772 - 1835) of the Rocky Creek - Beaver Dam Creek area, with the names of the owners of the land? Thanks for any information. Nancy Sicotte California **************Big savings on Dell's most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Big savings on Dell's most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Big savings on Dell?s most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:01:11 -0400 From: "Joyce G. Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek To: <scchest2@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9E5BCB0A5B44477DAD3F484664494940@joyce960dd5c4b> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I did a little research on this and, briefly, here is what I found. Covenanter's = Scottish predecessor of the Presbyterian's Huguenots = (aka French, History also reveals them in Scotland and later in Ireland) They are the Protestants Anglican = Church of England also known as Catholic & Reformed I do know that my Gaston's...two of which were with Rev. Martin were from Antrim Ireland and were of Huguenot descent and Protestants. AND it is documented that these same Protestants often interrupted the meetings of the Anglicans because of their dislike for them...bringing in baying hounds and the like. I'd have to locate it but there is a letter written by an Anglican minister to the leaders of the Church of England complaining of such an happening. His words were that it would have done him no good to complain to officials of the area since they were Protestants too. Joyce Gaston Reece, Secretary Friends of the Archives Historical & Preservation Society Monroe County, TN www.rootsweb.com/~tnfahps ----- Original Message ----- From: <eytvwt@ftc-i.net> To: <scchest2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek > Subject: Rev Wm Martin etc > > > excellent link http://gaz.jrshelby.com/rocky-cr-settlement.htm > > John W. Sproull, Thomas Sproull, David Burt Willson, James McLeod Willson, > The Reformed Presbyterian and Covenanter, 1876 Myers, Shinkle [etc.], > p.172-173 > Rev. William Richardson, of Waxhaw, was the only minister within a hundred > miles. They "applied to him to supply them with preaching; he consented, > and > directed them to build a church, as he would preach for them on week days. > The first preaching day was on Monday; he named the church (which they had > built according to his directions) Catholic. It is situated fifteen miles > south-east from Chester Court House, near the Rocky Mount road.* > Rev. William Martin emigrated from Ireland at least-as early as 1772; he > was > the first covenanting preacher in the settlement. I have in my possession, > from Henry and Margaret Malcolm, a letter written to their son-in-law John > Lin, in which they refer to Mr. Martin as being over here in this Rocky > Creek settlement. This letter is dated May 30th, 1773, County Antrim, > Ireland, in answer to one from his son-in-law, John Lin. The reference to > Mr. Martin is in these words: " We hear it reported here that Mr. Martin > and > his Covenanters had ill getting their land, and John Cochrane had the > occasion of all their trouble." I suppose that this trouble about laud > was, > that they expected to settle all down close together in a colony ; but > such > was then the situation of the country that they had to scatter and select > lands at a considerable distance from each other. They were entitled to > bounty lands, a hundred acres to each head of a family, and fifty to each > member. Those who had means bought from the old settlers. Rev. William > Martin bought from William Stroud a plantation one mile square, six > hundred > and ibny acres, on the north side of Big Rocky Creek, on which he built a > rock house and a rock spring bouse. The place selected for a church was > two > miles east of Catholic on the Rocky Mount road, near the house now > occupied > by Mrs. James Barber Ferguson. It is described as having been a log > building; was burnt down by the British in 178O.** After Martin was > released > by Coruwallis at Winnsboro, owing to the disturbed state of the country, > he > went to Mecklenburg, N. C. > ... > After the war, when Mr. Martin returned to Rocky Creek, he was employed as > supply at Catholic for three years. He was dismissed by the people of > Catholic on account of becoming intemperate. He however, did not quit > preaching. He preached at a school house at Edward McDaniel's, about a > mile > or two west of the place, at which a brick church, was afterwards built. > He > also went down to Jackson's creek in Fairfield, and preached there. I > recollect that Richard Gladney was a Covenanter in that neighborhood, and > doubtless there were others. He was also in the habit of crossing the > Catawba river and preaching at the house of William Hicklin, who had moved > from Rocky Creek to Lancaster. He frequently preached at other places, > often > at private houses. A congregation afterwards built him a church two miles > east from the site of the one formerly burnt down near the Rocky Mount > road, > on a beautiful hill, in rear of what was called Earle's House, in a fine > grove of trees. The lands are now all cleared up, and there is a negro > house > now on top of that hill, where the church once stood. > ================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 11:35:51 -0400 From: wcullars <wcullars@bellsouth.net> Subject: [SCCHEST2] Dr. Robert Coleman Arnette To: scchest2@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A01AE57.3060704@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Robert Coleman Arnett # # /Title:/ Dr # /Birth:/ 1846 in Chester Co., SC # /Death:/ 1908 in Fairfield Co., SC # /Census:/ 1880 Fairfield Co., SC # /Census:/ 1850 Fairfield Co., SC age 4 with parents # /Census:/ 1860 Fairfield Co., SC - age 15 with stepfather Wm. Mayfield # /Census:/ 1900 Fairfield County, SC # /Burial:/ 1908 Salem Presbyterian Church Cem, Fairfield, SC Father: John Quirns Arnette b: ABT 1804 in Chester Co., SC Mother: Eliza T Coleman b: 3 OCT 1817 Marriage 1 Mary Caroline Martin Evans b: ABT 1846 in SC * Married: 17 FEB 1874 in Fairfield Co., SC *Minnie Lee Evans* # /Birth:/ 6 JAN 1865 in Monticello, SC # /Death:/ 24 OCT 1923 in Columbia, Richland, SC # /Burial:/ Bethel ARP Cemetery, Winnsboro, Fairfield, SC Father: John Winn Evans Mother: Mary Martin Marriage 1 William Julian Elliott b: 25 JAN 1858 in Winnsboro, Fairfield Co, SC * Married: ABT 1889 in SC *Nancy Agnes Martin* # Birth: 1764 in Jackson Creek, Fairfield, SC, USA # Death: 1827 in Jackson Creek, Fairfield, SC, USA Marriage 1 Thomas Gladney b: 1749 in Kinbally, Skerry, County Antrim, Ireland Children 1. Joseph Gladney b: 3 OCT 1792 in Fairfield District, SC Edward Arnett & Catherine Querns The land involved was on Prather's Ck., south side of Tyger River. Apparently Edward had three sons - William, Edward, and Samuel. Samuel's dau. Nancy was the 2nd wife of William Glaze (Wilkes Co, GA) Edward Arnett?s will was filed in both Abbeville SC and WILKES COUNTY GA. Abbeville was part of the Old 96th District. I think it is possible that his father was the Edward Arnett living in Spartanburg. Abbeville was not far from Augusta GA where they could cross the river and get over to Wilkes Co. Oliver C. Arnett, son of Samuel Arnett and Ann Spears, lived with Benjamin Catching's daughter Ann Bird Catchings b. 9 OCT 1779 who had married William Ashmore and had one known child Mildred named after her mother. Oliver lived with his step mother. Benjamin Catchings was big.. in Georgia Benjamin was assistant county surveyor of Washington County, Georgia in 1784. In 1780 and 1782 he was assistant Judge of the County of Wilkes. He was a member of the legislature. Benjamin Catchings was granted 300 acres, 1781, 200 acres, 1784: 112 acres, 1792: and 112 acres, 1795. All on Little River in Wilkes County, Georgia, Benjamin Catchings, Esq., was a member of the General Assembly 1783 and 1784 and February 17, 1784, was paid 28 pounds for attendance. Sam D. Fanning, Ordinary, Washington, Ga. April 5, 1912. " These Arnette were kin to Gladney in SC, the Cullars, Glaze, and the Normans in GA, and some of these same surnames originally came from Maryland. --- Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Database (VPS): 090502-0, 05/02/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 11:35:52 AM (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ To contact the SCCHEST2 list administrator, send an email to SCCHEST2-admin@rootsweb.com. 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